Can Ann Coulter EVER Legitimize Herself? - Page 2

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Big ears, only gets laid every 7 (?) years or so...


I suppose you're right about me being right-of-the-center, but you'd never know it from the way people react to me around here. Try telling NoahJ or pscates I'm a closet Republican.

I'd like to route this thread into more of a gutter-level direction, and say that I, personally, wouldn't mind being the peanut butter, if you will, in an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham sandwich.

I can even overlook their blonde-ness (traditionally not my hair color of choice, as those of you who read the "Tiger Woods girlfriend" thread are aware of) for this one-time important summit meeting on the state of conservatism in America, the media and flavored lubri...

Oh, and to answer the question this thread asks:

Well, let's see: she's got the best-selling book at amazon.com, she's on her pick of shows, she travels the nation in, I'm sure, first class and nice hotels, she's asked to speak at a number of engagements, etc.

Seems to me the girls is doing okay for herself. Probably better that the bulk of us here combined, so...

Probably isn't much to "redeem", is there? If she's got a loyal fan base and people who enjoy her stuff (I've never read her books, but see her on TV a bit), then she's probably in that same unique clique as Marilyn Manson and Paul Rodriguez.

Someone, SOMEWHERE, obviously thinks highly of them, otherwise they still wouldn't be around doing what they're doing.

The minute she starts angling for Carville's approval (and Manson starts singing children's music and Rodriguez starts to become funny), she might as well pack it in.

[quote]It just so happens that every time a quote from her book is brought up, she CANNOT defend it. There is no avoiding the fact that Ann is powerless to defend her own "ideas" set forth in her book. This doesn't suggest misquoting, rather it suggests baseless ideas conjured up with no supporting evidence. <hr></blockquote>

I didn't say that she was defending quotes, I said they were trying to misquote her. Way to practice what she preaches. It is the adult equivelent of "Does your mother know your pick your nose?"

It is very easy to ask a question about an idea about someone's beliefs or ideas. It is not interesting to watch people parse their own sentences.

[quote]Oh please, you cry that interviewers try to make her look "stupid?" How touching. The fact remains though that all interviewers give Ann the chance to prove a point made in her book, and she gives up that very chance<hr></blockquote>

Yeah I was crying wasn't I. How about your own callousness. You display so much "sympathy" and "compassion" yourself. All conservative minded people should turn to you to see an example of openmindedness and caring.

[quote]Right . So you are conducting the interview now? I'm sorry [Laughing] , but only discussing lofty "ideas" and avoiding statements made in her book sounds fishy to me.<hr></blockquote>

She was happy to discuss full statements, not partial statements or misquotes.

[quote]The media IS NOT liberal. Prove that one for me. What does it matter WHO identified a large block of similarily voting Americans. The fact that there is no religious right "group" does not mean it DOESN'T exist.<hr></blockquote>

It seems unbelievable, but the numbers don't lie. No network labeled Vice President Al Gore as a liberal during the entire 1999-2000 election cycle, yet they labeled George W. Bush as a conservative 19 times. Bernard Goldberg is absolutely right," said Brent Bozell, President of the Media Research Center. "Network anchors and reporters label conservatives because they think they're out of the mainstream, but don't label liberals because they think liberals are completely mainstream.

Newscast Breakdown of Labeling
ABC World News Tonight
96 liberal labels (21%)
365 conservative labels (79%)
CBS Evening News
64 liberal labels (18%)
289 conservative labels (82%)
NBC Nightly News
87 liberal labels (20%)
338 conservative labels (80%)

This has nothing to do with their voting patterns. It has to do with how they actually label the people they are reporting on. You won't hear them say Liberal Senator Hillary Clinton, however you will hear them same Conservative Leader Newt Gingrich for example. It shows a clear trend. You asked, you received.

[quote]Have you actually thought your post through?<hr></blockquote>

Using the old "Ann Coulter documented" example of questioning the intelligence of a poster. Discuss the ideals please. If you don't like what she wrote, don't work so hard to prove it true.

quote :o riginally posted by trumptman:

However there are actual groups called NOW, NAACP, GLAD, Rainbow Coalition, AFL-CIO, etc.

[quote]OH, so now there are NO republican groups? I'll let you think about that one.<hr></blockquote>

My goodness, Ann should pay you royalties for working so hard to prove her book correct. Please quote for me where I said there were no republican groups. If you would like to MISQUOTE me you are welcome to do so. However the fact that there is no organization called "Religious Right" or even a group that exists that could be defamed as the religious right. If I would like to call NOW "femi-nazi's" or something like that, it still doesn't change the fact that there is a group called National Organization of Women. Keep up the good work though, Ann would be so proud of you.

[quote]I knew it. You only watch Fox News Channel don't you?<hr></blockquote>

Being a little stereotypical aren't we? A little closed-minded? Have you walked in my shoes? Do you really know me, and where my beliefs come from?

It may interest you to know that I am an elementary school teacher. I taught in Long Beach for 5 years. (Up the street from VIP records in fact, I also didn't just teach there, I lived there for 5 years just off of PCH. I even student taught at Long Beach Poly High School)

I also taught for 5 years for LAUSD in South Central Los Angeles. I taught off of Slauson Ave and MLK Blvd at a school.

Finally for the last 4 years I have been teaching limited English children.

But because I'm registered Republican, I must be a rich, closed-minded white guy right? I could for example have majored in music? (which I did) or be a school teacher?

Nick

[quote]Originally posted by Stroszek:
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What are the American Family Association, Concerned Women of America, Eagle Forum, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, Traditional Values Coalition, Opertion Rescue, and the National Association of Christian Educators/Citizens for Excellence in Education?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about them? I would be perfectly happy to have any group, conservative or liberal have their views presented on the topic of the day. However this is seldom what happens. Instead a member of say, NOW will be interviewed. Instead of inviting a balancing member, often the newsreporter will sit and intone in ominous ways about the "religious right," or not confront the person being interviewed about assertions made about said groups.

Nick

She sounds like a great punching bag, a total idiot.

I give Coulter an 8 on the idiot scale. Couric gets a 4 for taking on such an easy target.


Christianity makes conservatism look bad.

I take issue with the title of this thread.

It assumes Coulter ever had a something that could be redeemed.

She has always been a shrill right-wing windbag: Rush Limbaugh's doppelganger. She makes her money by peppering her poorly-reasoned arguments with shocking statements: a sure sign of flawed reasoning.

Obviously I am on the left, but when I want to understand where the right is coming from on an issue, I certainly never listen to her. There are plenty of conservatives who actually have brains to choose from. It's just that they don't have hearts. But what would you expect?

(putting on flame-retardant pyjamas)

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