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Apple has launched its Black Friday sale in the US offering $101 off a handful of Macs, though the company's resellers have responded by besting those discounts -- sometimes by more than double -- by offering up to $150 off white MacBooks, $270 off MacBook Pros, $180 off iMacs, $130 off MacBook Airs and $100 off Mac minis.

Apple's Black Friday sale offers $101 off MacBook Pros, iMacs and 13-inch MacBook Airs, in addition to $41 off iPads, up to $21 off iPod nanos, and up to $41 off iPod touches, plus a handful of accessory deals. In every case but the iPad, however, resellers have well undercut Apple, as can be seen in AppleInsider's Mac Pricing Guide, below.

White 13-inch MacBooks

For its part, MacConnection (Black Friday sale) maintains the lowest price on the sole white MacBook, blowing out units at $849.99 ($149 discount).

MacBook Airs

Meanwhile MacMall, which recently received an 87 point "recommended" reseller rating from Consumer Reports, has teamed up with AppleInsider to offer its readers an additional, exclusive 2% discount off Apple's new family of MacBook Airs when using the links in this article or the price guide. Unlike MacConnection, whose deals are tied to mail-in-rebates, MacMall's Black Friday savings all run off instant discounts, meaning the prices you see on the reseller's website are the prices you pay, no rebates needed.

The exclusive coupons on the Airs bring the bringing the 1.40GHz 11" MacBook Air 64GB to $929.04 ($70 savings), the 1.40GHz 11" MacBook Air 128GB to $1,116.22 ($83 savings), the 1.86GHz 13" MacBook Air 128GB to $1,174.04 ($125 savings), and the 1.86GHz 13" MacBook Air 256GB to $1,468.04 ($131 savings). These are the lowest prices we've seen or expect to see across the MacBook Air line.

MacBook Pros

For MacBook Pros, MacConnection continues to extend the best deals across the board with its mail-in-rebates. Among the standouts are the 2.66GHz 13" MacBook Pro for $1,299 ($200 savings), the 2.4GHz 15" MacBook Pro for $1,599 ($200 savings), the 2.53GHz 15" MacBook Pro for $1,579 ($240 savings), and the 2.53GHz 17" MacBook Pro for $2,029 ($270 savings).

iMacs

Similarly, MacConnection also maintains the best prices on iMacs, offering the 3.06GHz 21.5" iMac for $1,049.00 ($150 savings), the 3.20GHz 21.5" iMac for $1,349 ($150 savings), the 3.20GHz 27.0" iMac for $1,529 ($170 savings), and the 2.80GHz 27.0" iMac quad-core for $1,819.00 ($180 savings).

Mac minis

For Mac minis, MacConnection is offering the 2.40GHz Mac mini for $599 ($100 savings), with a strict limit of 1 per customer. Amazon, however, has matched the $599 pricing without imposing a limit. For the 2.66GHz Mac mini Server, MacMall, Amazon, and B&H Photo have the lowest pricing at $954 ($45 savings).

Mac Pros

When it comes to Mac Pros, a handful of resellers are offering similar pricing on the 2.80GHz 4-Core and 2.40GHz 8-Core models. For its part, MacMall has taken $400 off the high-end 2.66GHz 12-Core Mac Pro

All of these discounts and others can be seen in AppleInsider's Mac Pricing Guide, which is also republished below. The lowest prices are highlighted in bold links and the total discount compared to Apple's suggested retail price can be seen on the far right in red.



It should also be noted the both MacConnection and MacMall are offering free shipping and free printers with each Mac purchase. MacMall is also offering a free copy of Parallels Desktop 6 with each Mac purchase. Both offers are tied to rebates.
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Amazing discounts from Apple in Denmark

This is a list of ALL the Mac related discounts - the rest of the Mac products are not discounted.

MacBook Air 13" 128GB Save DKK150.75 = 26.93 US$
MacBook Air 13" 256GB Save DKK13.25 = 2.37 US$ almost 3 bucks discount how generous

MacBook Pro 13-inch: 2.4GHz Save DKK210.75 = 37.65 US$
MacBook Pro 13-inch: 2.66GHz Save DKK73.25 = 13.09 US$

iMac 21.5-inch: 3.06GHz Save DKK180.75 = 32.29 US$
iMac 21.5-inch: 3.2GHz Save DKK30.75 = 5.49 US$
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You can tell Apple is changing. I worry they will be perceived as less cool, because everyone has one now. A similar thing is happening with BMW. The exclusivity of the two companies is what made them cool. That's ok I can still dream for the Aston Martin DBS.

Even a year ago, I don't recall discounts like these from the Apple stores, which are by any measure pretty damn good. Over $200 off of some items . Of course there will be naysayers, but think about this: Apple's are selling extremely well in just about every category, which dictates they don't really have to make heavy discounts.

Obviously, I'm a fan of Apple and I own stock, so yes I am rooting for them to succeed. These sales should help boost their bottom line and push their stock even higher = win. However, I hope Apple doesn't completely loose their vision of innovative products that are better quality (builds and material) than everything else.
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You can tell Apple is changing. I worry they will be perceived as less cool, because everyone has one now. A similar thing is happening with BMW. The exclusivity of the two companies is what made them cool. That's ok I can still dream for the Aston Martin DBS.

I don't buy Apple equipment because it is cool! I buy to because it is awesome. Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it? Your statement sounds like something from the 1950's English class system.
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Even a year ago, I don't recall discounts like these from the Apple stores, which are by any measure pretty damn good. Over $200 off of some items

Last year the price of the MBPs was up to $300 off, compared to $270 this year.
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post #6 of 42
I ordered two iPads and a Shuffle for Christmas gifts this morning. Basically saved the sales tax on the iPads. Apparently, the resellers were not allowed to discount the iPads.
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Apparently Apple realised that the discounts were fairly ... strange.

They have now updated the discount to 751DKK = approx 100 = approx 134 US$

additionally the discount now covers all iMacs and all MacBook Pros but still only the 13" MacBook Air

now the discounts actually makes sense
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Thinking of a macbook pro (13"). Lean towards purchasing fro Apple as I have done in the past. But... since they will not honor the Black Friday price with the educational discount I am looking at Mac Connection. Both have ht eprinter rebate. What are the considerations of purchasing from a 3rd party???
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Even a year ago, I don't recall discounts like these from the Apple stores, which are by any measure pretty damn good.

they were there. Although they aren't as amazing as they sound once you consider that Apple is taking a little off today as well.

As for the whole "getting too popular" worries, I wouldn't. Apple has a long way to go before their computer market share is any thing to worry about

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post #10 of 42
Saving in Canada:
Imac : 101$ all models
MBP : 101$ all models
MB : 0$
MBA : 13" only, 101$
iPod Nano : from 11$ to 21$
iPod touch : from 21$ to 41$
IPad : 51$ all models

and lots of acccesories and softwares.
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they were there. Although they aren't as amazing as they sound once you consider that Apple is taking a little off today as well.

As for the whole "getting too popular" worries, I wouldn't. Apple has a long way to go before their computer market share is any thing to worry about

The problem with all of these fairly good deals today is that they are limited to standard configuration machines. The new MBAs in particular are selling almost exclusively with the additional 2 gigs of RAM (total 4) which can only be had at time of ordering. The 11" is best selling with the upgraded processor and the 4G memory, but it's also not being discounted.

Pity.
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I don't know how any of these companies can afford to offer discounts this deep. Resellers only make about $70 to $120 on for example iMacs, which means pretty much everyone is selling them at a loss.
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I don't know how any of these companies can afford to offer discounts this deep. Resellers only make about $70 to $120 on for example iMacs, which means pretty much everyone is selling them at a loss.

New math, perhaps? Their loss is your gain! Wheeeeee!

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I don't know how any of these companies can afford to offer discounts this deep. Resellers only make about $70 to $120 on for example iMacs, which means pretty much everyone is selling them at a loss.

Black Friday seems to always come at a time when I have no money to spend.
With economy they way it is with no money and no one willing go give credit,
these offers are useless to people in our position.
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I don't buy Apple equipment because it is cool! I buy to because it is awesome. Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it? Your statement sounds like something from the 1950's English class system.

Uhhh... everyone does, every day. You ever read a few reviews before buying something? You ever ask your friends and family about something before buying your own? You ever heard about "word of mouth?"

In your rush to "flame" the other poster, you sound like a doofus.
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I ordered two iPads and a Shuffle for Christmas gifts this morning. Basically saved the sales tax on the iPads. Apparently, the resellers were not allowed to discount the iPads.

I was quite surprised to see the iPads in the sale and not the Macbook.
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Saved £81 on a new iMac for the company and with the VAT to claim back we're well chuffed.
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I don't know how any of these companies can afford to offer discounts this deep. Resellers only make about $70 to $120 on for example iMacs, which means pretty much everyone is selling them at a loss.


i don't know were these numbers came from, but anyways, they could be trying to make money off of software sales as well, like buy a copy of MS office/etc with you Mac

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I don't buy Apple equipment because it is cool! I buy to because it is awesome. Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it?

Completely agreed!

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Your statement sounds like something from the 1950's English class system.

Now you lost me?

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I don't buy Apple equipment because it is cool! I buy to because it is awesome. Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it? Your statement sounds like something from the 1950's English class system.

Many many many people buy things just because they're cool, not because of any technical merit or advantage. This is how brands work.
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I don't buy Apple equipment because it is cool! I buy to because it is awesome. Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it? Your statement sounds like something from the 1950's English class system.

I agree with take one below as far as it goes....

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Uhhh... everyone does, every day. You ever read a few reviews before buying something? You ever ask your friends and family about something before buying your own? You ever heard about "word of mouth?"

...but it goes further.

"Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it?"

Like it or not, much of many or most people's lives is about either trying to make an impression that they're "cool," or to at least avoid the approbation of appearing to be "uncool." Including...

-Everybody who pays $150 for a pair of frackin' designer label Jeans....
-All those kids from poor neighborhoods who plunked down hundreds for some garish sunglasses they were getting mugged and sometimes killed for about 15 years ago.
-Everybody who buys a (questionably reliable) Mercedes that won't get them through their daily bumper-to-bumper commute 10 seconds faster than a (super reliable) Camry. (says a Camry owner who used to buy German luxury cars)
-Everybody who pays $2.50 at Target for the identical item on sale for a buck at the Dollar Store or $3/quart for water in a fancy bottle or triple for wine or scotch they could never tell the difference in in a blind taste test. Or most name brand grocery store products when the generics may have been packed in the same factory.
-People who buy a loaded 17" MPB for facebooking and YouTube and gold-plated super A/V cables to "improve" the signal on their Family Guy re-reuns.
-Hundred dollar hair cuts (for a simple style).
-And all other types of "conspicuous consuming" which does nothing but leave the consumers with props beneath their shaky self-esteem and generally inadequately funded retirement accounts.

Is it the good turtle soup or only the mock? Well in the case of Apple, it can be either or sometimes both depending on the product, the consumer and the user's needs. But lots and lots of people DO choose Apple products exactly because of the buzz factor, which sometimes leaves them with the best product for them anyway, and sometimes not.

PS: The English Class system (which, well, uhh, does go back a little further than the 1950's, think oh, say, the 1350's or earlier) is just a metaphor for a phenomenon that runs all the way through all human societies. The people who get through the rope lines, hang out at the country clubs, etc., who are asked to wear designer clothes in public rather than pay, politicians lovin' their motorcades, execs their corp jets, etc. and so forth. And as Communism has shown, slapping down the business class just substitutes Commisars for CEO's. Nothing new under the sun.

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Slightly off topic, but may be of interest to those worrying about Apple retail. There was an article in the Los Angeles Times Business section today focusing on the Microsoft retail stores.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,4878500.story
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I agree with take one below as far as it goes....

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PS: The English Class system (which, well, uhh, does go back a little further than the 1950's.

No kidding! I was referring to my memory of it when I lived there. Anyone from that era remembers the Joneses I expect.
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Completely agreed!



Now you lost me?

Sorrryyyy way of topic ...

Haha, in the UK in the 50's and beyond the middle class were (are?) slightly obsessed with keeping up with the 'Joneses' i.e. the guy next door with the bigger car. It kind of began with the end of WWII and the rise of the middle class who were no doubt targeted by advertisers. It became a class thing when you could think of your self upper middle class with a better house and car than the neighbor. BTW it does exist in the USA but to a fraction of the level it did in the UK (I left 20 years ago so have no clue what goes on there now).

The Two Ronnies did a wonderful sketch with John Cleese taking the piss out of this. I will try and find it on YouTube. It was called "I know my place" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DUsGSMwZY
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I agree with take one below as far as it goes....

...but it goes further.

"Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it?"

Like it or not, much of many or most people's lives is about either trying to make an impression that they're "cool," or to at least avoid the approbation of appearing to be "uncool." Including...

-Everybody who pays $150 for a pair of frackin' designer label Jeans....
-All those kids from poor neighborhoods who plunked down hundreds for some garish sunglasses they were getting mugged and sometimes killed for about 15 years ago.
-Everybody who buys a (questionably reliable) Mercedes that won't get them through their daily bumper-to-bumper commute 10 seconds faster than a (super reliable) Camry. (says a Camry owner who used to buy German luxury cars)
-Everybody who pays $2.50 at Target for the identical item on sale for a buck at the Dollar Store or $3/quart for water in a fancy bottle or triple for wine or scotch they could never tell the difference in in a blind taste test. Or most name brand grocery store products when the generics may have been packed in the same factory.
-People who buy a loaded 17" MPB for facebooking and YouTube and gold-plated super A/V cables to "improve" the signal on their Family Guy re-reuns.
-Hundred dollar hair cuts (for a simple style).
-And all other types of "conspicuous consuming" which does nothing but leave the consumers with props beneath their shaky self-esteem and generally inadequately funded retirement accounts.

Is it the good turtle soup or only the mock? Well in the case of Apple, it can be either or sometimes both depending on the product, the consumer and the user's needs. But lots and lots of people DO choose Apple products exactly because of the buzz factor, which sometimes leaves them with the best product for them anyway, and sometimes not.

PS: The English Class system (which, well, uhh, does go back a little further than the 1950's, think oh, say, the 1350's or earlier) is just a metaphor for a phenomenon that runs all the way through all human societies. The people who get through the rope lines, hang out at the country clubs, etc., who are asked to wear designer clothes in public rather than pay, politicians lovin' their motorcades, execs their corp jets, etc. and so forth. And as Communism has shown, slapping down the business class just substitutes Commisars for CEO's. Nothing new under the sun.

Slow day? I think you kind of proved my point on part 2 of my comment.
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Sorrryyyy way of topic ...

Haha, in the UK in the 50's and beyond the middle class were (are?) slightly obsessed with keeping up with the 'Joneses' i.e. the guy next door with the bigger car. It kind of began with the end of WWII and the rise of the middle class who were no doubt targeted by advertisers. It became a class thing when you could think of your self upper middle class with a better house and car than the neighbor. BTW it does exist in the USA but to a fraction of the level it did in the UK (I left 20 years ago so have no clue what goes on there now).

The Two Ronnies did a wonderful sketch with John Cleese taking the piss out of this. I will try and find it on YouTube. It was called "I know my place" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DUsGSMwZY

That's more of an affluent working class trait than a middle-class one, IMO, although I am sure we could spend hours chin-scratching about class and whether or not self-identity is more or less valid than objective classification. **Edit: Out of interest I looked this up on Wikipedia, and whoever wrote the entry seems to think it's a serious social phenomenon, rather than a phrase derived from the ridiculing of working class people trying to become 'middle-class' by buying expensive cars/caravans etc. It certainly wasn't written by someone from Britain. I might need to edit it...

'Keeping up with the Joneses' really refers to determing social status via material wealth, something that is relatively new in Britain precisely because class makes material weath irrelevant, and is therefore a derisory term that intellectuals or 'true' middle-classes say about working classes exhibiting their success via material goods.

As an aside, I would say that class is far more likely to be defined by material wealth in the US than in the UK - in fact, in Britain the excessive accumulation of wealth by people who 'earned it' rather than 'inherited it' is considered somewhat vulgar. For me, it's one of the biggest cultural differences between the two nations.

I'm English BTW - lived there for 33 of my 38 years, been in the states 5 years.

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Uhhh... everyone does, every day. You ever read a few reviews before buying something? You ever ask your friends and family about something before buying your own? You ever heard about "word of mouth?"

In your rush to "flame" the other poster, you sound like a doofus.

You are not reading what I wrote accurately in your rush to judgment. Your examples are fine, of course. A review or a recommendation are excellent reasons to buy. They are hardly part of the same sociological process that is operating when someone does something to be cool i.e. ' the desire to impress' which was the sense I was taking issue with.
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That's more of an affluent working class trait than a middle-class one, IMO, although I am sure we could spend hours chin-scratching about class and whether or not self-identity is more or less valid than objective classification. **Edit: Out of interest I looked this up on Wikipedia, and whoever wrote the entry seems to think it's a serious social phenomenon, rather than a phrase derived from the ridiculing of working class people trying to become 'middle-class' by buying expensive cars/caravans etc. It certainly wasn't written by someone from Britain. I might need to edit it...

'Keeping up with the Joneses' really refers to determing social status via material wealth, something that is relatively new in Britain precisely because class makes material weath irrelevant, and is therefore a derisory term that intellectuals or 'true' middle-classes say about working classes exhibiting their success via material goods.

As an aside, I would say that class is far more likely to be defined by material wealth in the US than in the UK - in fact, in Britain the excessive accumulation of wealth by people who 'earned it' rather than 'inherited it' is considered somewhat vulgar. For me, it's one of the biggest cultural differences between the two nations.

I'm English BTW - lived there for 33 of my 38 years, been in the states 5 years.

Sheesh we are off topic! LOL

I think the Two Ronnies got it spot on

BTW The reference to the Joneses in Wikipedia supports my interpretation not some marriage issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping...th_the_Joneses

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Once you click "Customize/Check Out" they remove the AppleInsider discount.

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Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it?

Many people, my friend.
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They are hardly part of the same sociological process that is operating when someone does something to be cool i.e. ' the desire to impress' which was the sense I was taking issue with.

Regardless, many many people buy many many things to impress. It's called keeping up with the Jones' ... ever heard of that? I like Apple because I think their products are awesome as well, but there are others who buy Apple due to coolness. Yes it happens, stop being in denial and we can move on.
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Who on earth would be shallow or stupid enough to buy anything based on what anyone else thinks about it?

Oprah viewers from a couple days ago....
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Regardless, many many people buy many many things to impress. It's called keeping up with the Jones' ... ever heard of that? I like Apple because I think their products are awesome as well, but there are others who buy Apple due to coolness. Yes it happens, stop being in denial and we can move on.

You clearly didn't read the thread ... and it's "Joneses"
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Oprah viewers from a couple days ago....

Ok, well putting my share holder hat on ... That's good news
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Many people, my friend.

I know that, I was trying to make them feel bad
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Many people, my friend.

This discussion's not really off-topic as someone else noted. The proverbial Joneses to "keep up with" and our tradition of conspicuous consumption have been mentioned a number of times, and two more terms apply as well. Apple is very much into the marketing of status symbols, some of which are almost even fetish objects.

This doesn't bother me as long as the aesthetics and marketing are for machines that do the best job of doing what I need and want them to do - and ensures the prosperity and ubiquity of one of my prime digital equipment and software providers. And you can make a strong argument that the aesthetic goals and attention to manufacturing processes to achieve them, along with a general work ethic of sweating details and the long time goal of things that "just work" (which is part of what makes them desirable beyond other brands, even when they don't have every kitchen sink feature on the market) contribute integrally to the quality of the rest of the engineering and coding.

The cult of secrecy and turning product releases into world-wide events that lead to camping out at Apple Stores also says it confers status to have Apple products around you. And especially the latest ones.

Because of the status attached to showing off the latest tech geegaw out of the brain trust in Cupertino, Apple fans probably upgrade more and buy more models of Apple products than nearly any other maker, even though the useful lifetime of their products is generally much longer. (I don't. I could, but I'm cheap. Which, incidentally is part of why I could. And why I don't.)

Give Apple credit for exploiting these human tendencies more effectively than anyone else in the business - somebody's going to have the hottest products every year after all - especially as long as they deliver a real value add in the product as well for the margins they command.

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You can tell Apple is changing. I worry they will be perceived as less cool, because everyone has one now. A similar thing is happening with BMW. The exclusivity of the two companies is what made them cool. That's ok I can still dream for the Aston Martin DBS.

Even a year ago, I don't recall discounts like these from the Apple stores, which are by any measure pretty damn good. Over $200 off of some items . Of course there will be naysayers, but think about this: Apple's are selling extremely well in just about every category, which dictates they don't really have to make heavy discounts.

Obviously, I'm a fan of Apple and I own stock, so yes I am rooting for them to succeed. These sales should help boost their bottom line and push their stock even higher = win. However, I hope Apple doesn't completely loose their vision of innovative products that are better quality (builds and material) than everything else.

Exclusivity = cool??? I thought Apple's coolness was an intrinsic value of the products themselves, not an external attribute attached to the brand as a result of its rarity. In the late 1990s when Apple was struggling, the Mac was far less popular and more expensive than it is today and yet I don't recall feeling that this made it more "cool". I'm not worried about Apple's products being mainstream or even ubiquitous. The company has been in that position before in different markets (Apple ][, iPod, now iPad). The thing I value is that no matter how popular (or unpopular) Apple gets, they never stop making a better product for their customers. When I pick up a new Apple thing and it works better than any competing device, when it oozes quality and design out of every seam, when it's clear they thoroughly thought-through the user experience, that's what makes it cool.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
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You clearly didn't read the thread ... and it's "Joneses"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping...th_the_Joneses

and you clearly didn't read my edit comment
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