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post #1 of 46
7/1/02 at 2:44pm
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Here is the deal: Post your job, age and the hourly payment before and after tax.

Me:

Mobile phone customer care hotline worker, 26, $17,31 and $12. And gets $600/month for being a student.
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post #2 of 46
7/1/02 at 2:51pm
I honestly don't think this thread is very appropriate.
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post #3 of 46
7/1/02 at 3:04pm
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Why is that :confused:

The reason for the thread is because I have learned that it isn´t really obvious what kind of jobs that give what kind of salaries. I have nbeen rather surpriced that two jobs that are almost alike can give very different salaries. And I also wanted to see if there would be a difference between different countries.

One "theory" I have is that the difference in salary between a MacJob and a high salary job is much smaller here than in US. I just wanted to see if it was a trend I could see between AI members.
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post #4 of 46
7/1/02 at 3:31pm
Americans don't publicly talk about salaries. Don't ask me why.
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post #5 of 46
7/1/02 at 3:47pm
$8.50/hr., 40hr/week. over the summer.
Not much, but it pays the bills.

[edit]

Americans hate talking about money because we always want more. And for some reason want people to think we make more than we do.

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post #6 of 46
7/1/02 at 4:43pm
$10 an hour, 40 a week, in my 4th year at a supermarket my uncle owns working in the deli... i get free lunch and I shouldnt, thats about the only perk i ahve--that and not being able to get fired ... but seriously, most of my friends do DICK and get paid the same, if not more then I do... and my uncle owns the store@!!! <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> oh well, i have fun at work... still sucks tho because I cant go out with the hot cashiers b/c of my "position" <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> whatever... I also get close to $35 taken out in taxes each week

Edit: just to clarify, the friends im talking about DO NOT work at the same store I do, they ahve completely different jobs, and they do nothing there and get paid the same if not more then I do...
Edit again: oh yeah im 18

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post #7 of 46
7/1/02 at 4:55pm
I agree, at least in the states, it's quite taboo to ask someone how much money they make. It's not polite, so it's one of those things that you just, well, don't do Therefore, I won't be disclosing mine. I'm a Human Interface Designer, I run the studio myself, and I make more than most people my age.
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post #8 of 46
7/1/02 at 6:32pm
$80k+

plus stock options (currently unused options valued at $50,000 before taxes/fees), and other stock-based incentives.Plus benefits. Plus 4 weeks vacation per year. Plus sick time. Plus the beer/wine party this wednesday.

Plus indegestion, eye strain, obesity, balding, halitosis, and such.
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post #9 of 46
7/1/02 at 6:53pm
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Full time Student, 19, around 2K per year. Little work + Sap off parents.

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post #10 of 46
7/1/02 at 7:25pm
No job
Age: 15
Salary: Whatever my parents give me

Seriously though, if I was able to drive I'd have a job.
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post #11 of 46
7/1/02 at 7:48pm
As others have stated, it's generally considered improper to discuss how much you make if you are an American. There is actually a well known reason for this, though we hesitate to bring it up as we Americans do not want to ruin our reputation for polite deference. It is done in order not to rub it in for our fellow Americans in the tourism industry who are so impoverished because they depend on Europeans to tip them for their wages.

(Disclaimer: This was a joke btw, just in case anyone is too dense to see that. Though maybe there is just a little bit of truth in there somewhere. )

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post #12 of 46
7/1/02 at 7:50pm
age 26
46k/year
Mac tech.

Still make more than our PC tech
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post #13 of 46
7/1/02 at 7:56pm
Well I may be in the States, but the main reason I see people not discussing finances is the fact that most people don't have real money and finance a lot of stuff on credit. It gives them the appearance of looking rich when they own nothing and have a negative net worth.

I have no car loans, no student loans, and no credit card/consumer debt.

(example buy a new car and drive it off the lot, you now have a net worth of about -6 to -10k dollars)

Also there are so many other ways to measure your real value of work like stock options, retirement packages, benefits, job security, etc.

I don't mind disclosing what I make because as a teacher, you can look it up on a friggin' web page that our district posts.

I am 32 years old. I am starting my 10th year of teaching and will make $53k a year. I don't know what that is per hour. I pay no income tax because of my various real estate investments (rental apartments and homes) They give me an income of approximately $3600 per month but after mortgage interest, repairs, improvements (sometimes to my home, and sometimes to theirs ) I owe no income tax.

As for benefits, I have a full pension (not a crappy 401k), full medical and dental, I get 10 paid sick days per year and I am contracted to work 176 days per year. (I get 3 months off and obviously all major holidays)

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post #14 of 46
7/1/02 at 8:03pm
I think the "don't ask how much one makes" policy is a stupid social holdover.

age: 20 (soon 21)

Job one: low-key web & brochure design, photography. $15/hour, about 13 after taxes. (expenses covered)

Job two: graphic design consulting: $20-60/hour (I can charge much more for 3D), who knows the tax rate involved. I try to keep it under the table.

Job three: shareware sales. A couple people send money.

I should see a slight income boost when, in two weeks, I can sell alcohol to minors at a profit.
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post #15 of 46
7/1/02 at 9:02pm
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[quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:
<strong>I should see a slight income boost when, in two weeks, I can sell alcohol to minors at a profit. </strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #16 of 46
7/1/02 at 10:36pm
I think the reason Americans don't think it's appropriate to state how much money one makes, is because most Americans care too much how much money they make, and how much everyone else makes, and they hate to admit how much they care.

They care SO much, and equate a high income with being a good person to such a degree, that saying "I make a lot of money" is seen as equivalent to saying "I'm better than almost everyone else, except those rare few who also make a lot of money."

Of course, I would say that, since I make a lot of money!
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post #17 of 46
7/1/02 at 10:39pm
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Meat Cutter, Deli Worker in privately owned grocery store.
$8.50/hr
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PS-Hey, Paul-$10/hr would be a great fourth year wage in Iowa!

Edit-I wonder what it says about my psyche that I unintentionally capitalized my "titles?" <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

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post #18 of 46
7/1/02 at 10:48pm
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>I honestly don't think this thread is very appropriate.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If anyone has a problem with this thread then they don't have to respond.
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post #19 of 46
7/1/02 at 11:26pm
Splinemodel, what exactly is graphic design consulting?
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post #20 of 46
7/1/02 at 11:32pm
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post #21 of 46
7/1/02 at 11:48pm
$1 a month.

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post #22 of 46
7/2/02 at 1:40am
<a href="http://research.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/ruleofthumb.html" target="_blank">Rule of Thumb:</a>

Hour rate * 2000 = Annual salary

Or, take your rate, double it, and add a bunch of zeros.

If you want to calculate it exactly, start with the weight of the moon in the Roman units of Uncia, multiply it by the inverse of Plank's constant, and then take the number from your annual W2 form, except in England.

edit: except is not expect. Brain Farht.

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post #23 of 46
7/2/02 at 5:10am
Well since I don't know any of you, I don't mind saying how much I make

Age: 25
Profession: Web/Software Developer
Salary: 60k/year
Employer: Uncle Sam
REAL Employer: (you, my dear tax payers )
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post #24 of 46
7/2/02 at 5:21am
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>

Profession: Web/Software Developer
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

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post #25 of 46
7/2/02 at 5:24am
[quote]Originally posted by Jamie:
<strong>

Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

J :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Active Server Pages? Yeah, I know ASP pretty well actually. If you have any questions, email or PM me.
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post #26 of 46
7/2/02 at 5:43am
[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>

Active Server Pages? Yeah, I know ASP pretty well actually. If you have any questions, email or PM me. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks Willoughby!

You have a (rather lengthy) PM!

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post #27 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:13am
Alright, I'll bite too since none of
you know me.

Age: 31
occupation: Lawyer (starting my second year).
salary: $135k + bonus + benefits (like an office
I get to live in rather than going home).
Hours: lots and lots.

Student loans: you don't want to know.

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post #28 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:29am
Where did you go to school?
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post #29 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:35am
[quote]Originally posted by jeffyboy:
<strong>PS-Hey, Paul-$10/hr would be a great fourth year wage in Iowa!</strong><hr></blockquote>

that must suck!!! but over in NYC, 10$/hr is close to nothing... :eek: <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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post #30 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:46am
First off, to get your yearly salary if you're an hourly worker it's hourly rate * 2080 (not 2000).

Secondly, since I don't know any of you from Adam I'll tell, too.

32 yrs. old
Graphic Designer (although I tend to do more typesetting than I'd like at this job)
$18.50/hr. which is like $38,500/yr. but with O.T. it'll be around $45k.
Basic health and dental
SAR-SEP (joke of a retirement fund)

Also, I do more "nose to the grindstone" work than anyone else in the office, yet I'm the least paid... go figure.
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post #31 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:47am
Job: Windows ( )Software Engineer
Yearly Salary: 52,000
Age: 24
Experience: 3 years ( 2 with C++ )

I don't really care about people knowing how much I make as I know it really sucks for my profession. Compared to other professions though, it is pretty good. I plan on leaving my company to get a real job with real money as soon as the econmey recovers and jobs become available elsewhere. I hoping I can find a mac job!
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post #32 of 46
7/2/02 at 6:47am
i'm a `developer`. basically, around the office if they have a prob with an ActServPage or html they ask me. Or if they need a little custom app made in rb, they ask me. (someday i'll leave this job, and make games professionally. someday...)

i get $13 b4 taxes (~10 after), and i work 40hr weeks. But only during the summer. during school, i "go" to "class." last year i pulled in like 7 large b4 taxes. i dont know how much taxes really get outta me, cuz i always seem to get rebates, and i tend to just look at the bottom line. the money is enough to support my little drug habit, so i dont really need much more.

and as far as benefits go, i frquently love my job. i can take it real easy. no one really bothers me about deadlines or anything. and i cant get fired cuz my aunt is my boss' boss. gotta love nepotism.
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post #33 of 46
7/2/02 at 7:19am
graphic/web designer

income: 55k + bonuses

401k in the works but not there yet ( this is a big pisser).

4 weeks total time off.

office with a 12th floor view of downtown dallas ( very nice).

good overall working environment.

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post #34 of 46
7/2/02 at 7:34am
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Where did you go to school?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Me? Since the school was very small, this may
reveal my identity, but I'm the only one in my class who used a Mac, so screw it.
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post #35 of 46
7/2/02 at 11:36am
i am freelance : i win 70 K , and i have not any bonus of any kind. I have been studied for 14 years, and it's my fourth year of freelance exercice.
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post #36 of 46
7/2/02 at 12:54pm
[quote]Originally posted by Stroszek:
<strong>Splinemodel, what exactly is graphic design consulting?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have ins within the construction industry, and many of these companys like to produce "flyers", brochures, etc. I do this. The thing that sets me apart is that I can do 3d, and for construction that allows me to usefully do things that other designers can't. Pipes & CAD visualizations, namely.

I'm a consultant because I work for myself, they just pay me for my services. Short term work.
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post #37 of 46
7/2/02 at 12:58pm
[quote]Originally posted by Jamie:
<strong>

Any good with ASPs?? They are doing my head in. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

J :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Application Service Provider or Active Server Pages?
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post #38 of 46
7/2/02 at 1:48pm
The genesis of the US aversion to sharing salary is actually the result of employers paying their employees what they can negotiate. Two employees of the same caliber will make different amounts based on their skills at selling their talents. The employers therefore "discourage" their workers from sharing salary figures as then those making less have an extra bargaining chip the next time around.

That said, I as an employee have always encouraged salary sharing as he who has the most knowledge going into a negotiation gets the better deal. My stats:

Profession: Software Engineer
Age: 28
Experience: 9 years
Salary: $110k/yr, 60000 options, 3 wks vacation
Employer: Withheld (against the rules to share salary data)
Freelance Rate: $125/hr
Perks: Work from home

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post #39 of 46
7/2/02 at 2:10pm
shadyg, whats average for a SoftEng'r? Do you know how much entry-level gets? I'm a SE student now and was wondering what i have to look forward to.
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post #40 of 46
7/2/02 at 2:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by thuh Freak:
<strong>shadyg, whats average for a SoftEng'r? Do you know how much entry-level gets? I'm a SE student now and was wondering what i have to look forward to.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Depends on the industry. Boring stuff usually gets you more, fun stuff pays less, at least at first. Hone your negotiating skills if you've really got a SE degree. Companies are finally coming around to treating software development as a business, and engineers are becoming more valuable than computer scientists. Rarely does a brand new technology need to be invented, but very commonly does existing technology need to be assembled in a new way. Someone with an engineering mindset should be able to sell himself on the basis of predictable, reliable delivery.

As to your actual question, well in today's climate, don't expect more than $40k to start. You may get more -- I got $55k right out of college in a better market but minus 6 years of inflation -- but don't be disappointed to take less now. The best move is getting impressive entries in your resume. Doesn't hurt to be able to walk into a software store and point to a title you worked on either.

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