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A new rumor claims Apple plans to launch its upcoming Mac App Store for Snow Leopard ahead of schedule and in time for Christmas, on Monday, Dec. 13.

According to AppleTell, Apple told developers to have their applications ready for a launch as soon as today. A source told the site that Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs wanted to launch even sooner than today.

"That obviously didn't happen, but Apple appears to be way ahead of schedule on the Mac App Store nonetheless, and looks to take advantage of the Christmas rush," author Kirk Hiner wrote.

Last week, Apple issued its second beta of Mac OS X 10.6.6 with support for the forthcoming Mac App Store. Developers with the early build were reportedly told that the latest update to Snow Leopard "contains developer support for fetching and renewing App Store receipts."

The Mac App Store was announced in October, and Jobs said it would launch within 90 days. To meet that launch window, Apple has until late January.

Apple is rumored to hold a media event in the coming days to announce the ability to subscribe to publications on the iPad through an iTunes account. It's possible that Apple could also launch the Mac App Store at the apparent event.
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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?
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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?

Probably not. They probably just got more app submissions faster than they anticipated. The 90 day window was probably an estimate of how long till there were enough apps to not make the store seem empty. The actual infrastructure was already pretty much in place.
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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?

When has Apple ever rushed anything, hmm? Come on.

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I think this is all about reliability. Removal of the optical drive = better hardware reliability. App curating = better software reliability. The Mac will become "the computer that never crashes" and get even more converts from Windows.
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Probably not. They probably just got more app submissions faster than they anticipated. The 90 day window was probably an estimate of how long till there were enough apps to not make the store seem empty. The actual infrastructure was already pretty much in place.

I think that sounds likely. From the presentation, I got the feeling that 90 days was a worst case scenario time frame and that releasing before the end of the year was a priority for them.

The pushing of 10.6.6 beta 1 before 10.6.5 was finalized seems to indicate that much.


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When has Apple ever rushed anything, hmm? Come on.

Oh no! Youre bound to get posters who correlate a product hanging even a single issue as proof that it was rushed out with zero quality control.
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great, then we all get to beta test the new app store. yay.
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I think this is all about reliability. Removal of the optical drive = better hardware reliability. App curating = better software reliability. The Mac will become "the computer that never crashes" and get even more converts from Windows.

Nice to see someone gets it.

All it takes is a little forward thinking, and the possibilities become apparent. This distribution by channel will mean a computer that has never been more usable and easier to understand. It's a very big deal.
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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?

Why not? Rush doesn't mean any downside in the quality of the service simply means it got a high priority to be completed and perhaps less products at first (although I doubt that!). Makes sense to me to be up and running ASAP. You know MS will already 'suddenly' have thought of this too
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Nice to see someone gets it.

All it takes is a little forward thinking, and the possibilities become apparent. This distribution by channel will mean a computer that has never been more usable and easier to understand. It's a very big deal.

I agree, but I feel it goes beyond being resistant to crashing and usability. It ushers in trusted computing on the Mac platform.

I can see Apple marketing saying, "If you don't want a virus, only download Apple Store applications." I could actually see this being a requirement for school and government environments where people don't want people downloading and installing malicious software. Also, this is the perfect "parental control" that some people want/need.

I am 100% for the App Store, as long as I can continue to download non-App Store apps IF I WISH.
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I agree, but I feel it goes beyond being resistant to crashing and usability. It ushers in trusted computing on the Mac platform.

I can see Apple marketing saying, "If you don't want a virus, only download Apple Store applications." I could actually see this being a requirement for school and government environments where people don't want people downloading and installing malicious software. Also, this is the perfect "parental control" that some people want/need.

I am 100% for the App Store, as long as I can continue to download non-App Store apps IF I WISH.

I also completely agree. The App Store will be absolutely massive. Not only for the above mentioned reasons. But also because of the ease of installing software. For the average user, this is nearly a sole argument for switching to the Mac platform. - And developers will love it too! In principle, this is the perfect system for not having pirate copies!
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I also completely agree. The App Store will be absolutely massive. Not only for the above mentioned reasons. But also because of the ease of installing software. For the average user, this is nearly a sole argument for switching to the Mac platform. - And developers will love it too! In principle, this is the perfect system for not having pirate copies!

If I never again have to explain what a mounted disc is Ill be happy. This has always been an issue with Mac OS X. Too many people are opening their DMG file to run an app without actually copying it from the disc image to the Applications folder. That is not a user friendly or it just works setup.
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At the apparent event, I'd also like streaming iTunes to be announced please Apple.

Having just moved all of my music off a local mac to a network drive and found it no longer shows a single piece of album art I'm in a world of hurt as I can't even recognize my music collection. (Ideas anyone?)
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At the apparent event, I'd also like streaming iTunes to be announced please Apple.

Having just moved all of my music off a local mac to a network drive and found it no longer shows a single piece of album art I'm in a world of hurt as I can't even recognize my music collection. (Ideas anyone?)

January.. Probably..
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At the apparent event, I'd also like streaming iTunes to be announced please Apple.

Having just moved all of my music off a local mac to a network drive and found it no longer shows a single piece of album art I'm in a world of hurt as I can't even recognize my music collection. (Ideas anyone?)

Speaking of, the one product I think it missing from Apples lineup is an Apple Home Server. Something like Drobo and HP Media Smarts with Windows Home Server, but running off an ARM CPU and iOS, akin to the new AppleTV. This would have to support multiple, user-replaceable 3.5 HDDs with a hardware RAID. The TIme Capsule simply doesnt cut it for many power users or families who want a centralized repository of their media files.
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Speaking of, the one product I think it missing from Apples lineup is an Apple Home Server. Something like Drobo and HP Media Smarts with Windows Home Server, but running off an ARM CPU and iOS, akin to the new AppleTV. This would have to support multiple, user-replaceable 3.5 HDDs with a hardware RAID. The TIme Capsule simply doesnt cut it for many power users or families who want a centralized repository of their media files.

Yes, the problem with the time capsule as a media hub is that it has no backup of the media. A real home server needs >2 HDs to keep backups in case one crashes. It is something that is missing, definitely. I sometimes wonder whether Apple is working on a 'different' solution on this. I would buy one the day this thing hits the shelves (and is affordable). And I do NOT want a cloud solution. Not for all my media and data.
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Yes, the problem with the time capsule as a media hub is that it has no backup of the media. A real home server needs >2 HDs to keep backups in case one crashes. It is something that is missing, definitely. I sometimes wonder whether Apple is working on a 'different' solution on this. I would buy one the day this thing hits the shelves (and is affordable). And I do NOT want a cloud solution. Not for all my media and data.

As much as the cloud get talks up and as much as we use it without even realizing it, storing all your media on the cloud, and only on the cloud is very far from being a feasible consumer reality.

I think people would pay Drobo prices for an Apple Home Server that gave them the interaction Windows Home Server. Id think the Cortex-A8 and iOS would be sufficient for this task considering Drobo used the same ARMv5 in the Time Capsule, and HP used an Atom for their Windows-based solution (which is pretty good for a Windows OS product).
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Yes, the problem with the time capsule as a media hub is that it has no backup of the media. A real home server needs >2 HDs to keep backups in case one crashes. It is something that is missing, definitely. I sometimes wonder whether Apple is working on a 'different' solution on this. I would buy one the day this thing hits the shelves (and is affordable). And I do NOT want a cloud solution. Not for all my media and data.

I agree. Some of the Window/HP media stack and the QNAP NAS options are promising (QNAP might be ARM based already) but would be nice if it compared with an Apple designed 2, 4, 6 drive solution depending on the type of home and budget you have. As much as cloud hosting looks like the future, I just can't see it as realistic with current connection speeds, remote storage pricing and the fact that non-incremental backups are likely to take days. In home storage isn't finished yet and it's got a brighter future if they gave it the iOS treatment.
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As much as the cloud get talks up and as much as we use it without even realizing it, storing all your media on the cloud, and only on the cloud is very far from being a feasible consumer reality.

The cloud, for the average consumer, is a smokescreen. Personal clouds are what people should be clamoring for. The whole point (well, at least one original very big point) of personal computers is to be in control of your own computing experience, particularly your data. Giving up that control to someone else -- which is what the cloud is all about -- is stepping back in time about 35 years.
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I think this is all about reliability. Removal of the optical drive = better hardware reliability. App curating = better software reliability. The Mac will become "the computer that never crashes" and get even more converts from Windows.

I'm saying this as somebody that spent the weekend trying to overcome a issue with a third party kext that just isn't doing what it should! Given that any non trivial app will have capabilities outside the walled garden this will always be a problem. In my case a driver is doing things it should 'never do' which means Dave will have to spend a lot of time researching what the hell is happening. Is it Apple, the driver supplier or me?

Sadly this is one of those failures that requires a reboot to clear. This is not cool at all. Further it may mean going out and buying new hardware, in this case a relatively cheap USB to serial converter. It is a big problem though when something simple like that is not a reliable implementation. Even more frustrating is the failure cropping up after days of working correctly.
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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?

Meh, I don't think the App Store infrastructure is too complex. I'm happy it's coming soon. My copy of Pages ('08) is looking a bit long in the tooth, and I'm happy that I'll be able to buy the new version without having to shell out for a complete copy of iWork.

I think that the App Store will mean a lot of nifty, lower-cost software, much like on iOS. This is a great opportunity for MacRuby, which is a great alternative to Objective-C for rapid application development.
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I think this is all about reliability. Removal of the optical drive = better hardware reliability. App curating = better software reliability. The Mac will become "the computer that never crashes" and get even more converts from Windows.

Yep. Apple = simplicity, reliability, quality.
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I assume you already know this but when I saw the message you are responding to I thought what the hell time capsule was never intended to be a media server. If that was Apples intention they came up awfully short.
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I agree. Some of the Window/HP media stack and the QNAP NAS options are promising (QNAP might be ARM based already) but would be nice if it compared with an Apple designed 2, 4, 6 drive solution depending on the type of home and budget you have.

I've been on again off again looking at ways to setup a home media server and frankly Apple has nothing to really offer here. The Mini server could be pressed into service here but from the hardware standpoint it is less than ideal. As you point out many require more than two drives.
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As much as cloud hosting looks like the future, I just can't see it as realistic with current connection speeds, remote storage pricing and the fact that non-incremental backups are likely to take days.

These are all issues but there is one item that is even bigger, that is security. Nothing on the net is beyound being hacked so it is no place for an individual nor a business to place sensitive data. Followed close by speed as you rightfully point out. As we move to solid state local storage the delta between that and the cloud just becomes bigger.
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In home storage isn't finished yet and it's got a brighter future if they gave it the iOS treatment.

With regards to that I've considered just building my own Linux based server and to be done with it. The problem one runs into is "issues" of working correctly with Apples innovations like iTunes. I probably should start hanging out in some of the AppleTV forums to see how much of a problem it is to get ATV to work with third party servers.

Working means that the server does more than just handles media, it would also need to be a backup device, an SCM server and other things. I was actually saddened to see XServe leave the line up as that would have gone into the cellar nicely. Well if it wasn't for the price. That is the final issue, if Apple comes out with such a home server it needs to be reasonably priced. This isn't a platform for fancy design, it has to fit in with the cobwebs and other unmentionables in the cellar.
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As much as the cloud get talks up and as much as we use it without even realizing it, storing all your media on the cloud, and only on the cloud is very far from being a feasible consumer reality.

I think people would pay Drobo prices for an Apple Home Server that gave them the interaction Windows Home Server. Id think the Cortex-A8 and iOS would be sufficient for this task considering Drobo used the same ARMv5 in the Time Capsule, and HP used an Atom for their Windows-based solution (which is pretty good for a Windows OS product).

It would be nice if this HomeServer also served user profiles, updates and centralized home folders for Macs as well as handling activation and serving as a synching home to iPads (promoting it from being just a companion product).
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I am 100% for the App Store, as long as I can continue to download non-App Store apps IF I WISH.

There is no question about that. Jobs stood up on that stage and said that this store is totally an option, not a requirement. It is designed for those little guys, the new Steve Jobs of the world, working in the basement etc that can't afford the cost of large scale advertising, servers, and such to compete with the big boys. Hell you google photo editing Mac and you are likely to get adobe Photoshop as the first 5 pages, mainly because goggle let's them pay for placement at the top of searches. But on the Mac App Store, where adobe is likely to be absent since they dont need the support, you could find pixelmator, gimp etc.


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Are they rushing something out of the door just to be in time for X-mas?

Rushing out the store isn't the same as rushing out the contents. Much of the structure is likely copied from the iOS store. And many apps probably only needed to have a change in installers to work in the system, although i've seen quite a few that seem to be using an Apple style installer already so perhaps they needed no changes at all.

All we seem to be waiting for is the app to access the app store.

And there is a tactical advantage to getting it out now. Christmas buyers who are on the fence about switch g could be coaxed over by the notion that Apple makes it easy for you to find the software you want, even if they don't make it. Unlike on the PC . . .
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I also completely agree. The App Store will be absolutely massive. Not only for the above mentioned reasons. But also because of the ease of installing software. For the average user, this is nearly a sole argument for switching to the Mac platform. - And developers will love it too! In principle, this is the perfect system for not having pirate copies!

Many small to medium sized developers are going to absolutely love the App Store. It removes a considerable amount of overhead. Marketing, application packaging, activation, etc. etc. It lets them focus on what they do best. I'm guessing the medium to larger organizations are going to want to negotiate the 70/30 split as they have more to lose.
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As much as the cloud get talks up and as much as we use it without even realizing it, storing all your media on the cloud, and only on the cloud is very far from being a feasible consumer reality.

I would agree 100%.

All it takes is
  • Slow, erratic or no internet service or
  • Brown-, black-outs or no power
and there is no work.

And in this day in age, hell a natural disaster or even a war is not out of the question.

However, as an integral part of a steaming, cloud computing or backup service, it has its benefits. But not having your primary data on your computer or in close proximity to your working environment is only asking for issues.

Has anyone seen or heard Steve Jobs talk, speak, present or written anything about cloud computing. I haven't? Perhaps somebody can send a link or two.

Until then, the concerns are literally a figment of one's imagination.

By the way, the only thing that I can find re Job's on the Mac App Store, is that:
  • The App Store will allow users to download and install applications with just one click, like on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
  • Like on iOS devices, software will be remotely hosted by Apple. But once applications are installed, they will run locally, like traditional software.
  • In both Lion and Snow Leopard, users will not be tied to the App Store for new software. Jobs said that the App Store will simply be an option for both developers and users, suggesting Mac OS X will not become a "walled garden" like iOS.

I suspect that the first Apps that will appear will be extensions of the current iPhone and iPad apps. Obviously, they will have more functionality; which is something that we all have been requesting.

It is highly unlikely that the powerhouse applications of Adobes Creative Suite or Microsoft's Office won't be available. There just hasn't been enough time. Not only should the developer have done his homework, i.e., the necessary research, market analysis, proper coding, testing, marketing/pricing/sales plans, etc., the software will be vetted and tested by Apple before Apple makes it available on their Mac App Store.

However, the idea that without thinking about it, the process of acquiring, installing and updating Mac apps from the users' as well as the developers' will not be fraught with issues such as, are you legally entitled to, and is your hardware configured as such to run the software. It just will or it won't.
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I would agree 100%.

All it takes is
  • Slow, erratic or no internet service or
  • Brown-, black-outs or no power
and there is no work.

And in this day in age, hell a natural disaster or even a war is not out of the question.

I don't agree. I believe Internet access at the home will soon be viewed as a standard utility (on par with electricity and running water). For many businesses, it's already there. If the Internet goes down at my place of business, everything stops.
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I don't agree. I believe Internet access at the home will soon be viewed as a standard utility (on par with electricity and running water). For many businesses, it's already there. If the Internet goes down at my place of business, everything stops.

What don't you agree about?
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I think this is all about reliability. Removal of the optical drive = better hardware reliability. App curating = better software reliability. The Mac will become "the computer that never crashes" and get even more converts from Windows.

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I don't agree. I believe Internet access at the home will soon be viewed as a standard utility (on par with electricity and running water). For many businesses, it's already there. If the Internet goes down at my place of business, everything stops.

Not in the U.S. That's really all that matters when it comes to Apple.

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You guys really think a "home media server" is a vital product of the future? I'd file that under Jobs' "hobby" folder, maybe, but to be honest: only a bunch of geeks like us would buy it Apple prices. I can't see anyone in my extended family or most of the people I work with paying a premium for something their family computer does.
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You guys really think a "home media server" is a vital product of the future? I'd file that under Jobs' "hobby" folder, maybe, but to be honest: only a bunch of geeks like us would buy it Apple prices. I can't see anyone in my extended family or most of the people I work with paying a premium for something their family computer does.

I agree. Evidence: Microsoft's home server business is being neglected and dying.

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I also completely agree. The App Store will be absolutely massive. Not only for the above mentioned reasons. But also because of the ease of installing software. For the average user, this is nearly a sole argument for switching to the Mac platform. - And developers will love it too! In principle, this is the perfect system for not having pirate copies!

Curation also begets the new Apple Customer: Gone are the days of a DIYer who could write a bit of HyperCard (or like me, PERL and ObjC on NeXTSTEP), and and enter the masses who want the '1click shopping' experience.

This is not a bad thing... this is mainstreaming SW. MS kept the cloak of wizardry on most tech heads with registry entries and DLLs updates.... Apple allows the techheads to get out of daily 'user support (I have to avoid calling my mom a 'Luser' with her not quite hearing the 'L'), and focus on doing other stuff.

I've stated in other forums, The App Store helps with the acquisition of small bits of code for a less than a Applebee's Meal at the Mall price..., sort of a 'macro' version of 'micropayments' (see Alan Cox). Figure that driving to the Apple Store or BBY or Fry's causes you to get the munchies, let alone gas prices, opportunity costs and other things... buying software for $15 a seat at a time (assuming that's the price for a big ticket item like OmniWeb or Pages), further unravelling the MS model of a $500 retail for MS-Office.

[Note that MS is now going to the cloud... a nice thought, but I think that 'decoupled' computing will still have value for several years, especially in 'productivity' apps... MS is in a race for the bottom with Google, on Google's turf... I don't see Value Prop for MS in this race... the virtue of selling HW instead of ads].
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You guys really think a "home media server" is a vital product of the future? I'd file that under Jobs' "hobby" folder, maybe, but to be honest: only a bunch of geeks like us would buy it Apple prices. I can't see anyone in my extended family or most of the people I work with paying a premium for something their family computer does.

I agree, I don't think Apple is heading towards a home server. They are more about an "anything can stream to anything" model. Even the iPad can stream to the Apple TV now.
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You guys really think a "home media server" is a vital product of the future? I'd file that under Jobs' "hobby" folder, maybe, but to be honest: only a bunch of geeks like us would buy it Apple prices. I can't see anyone in my extended family or most of the people I work with paying a premium for something their family computer does.

I agree. Evidence: Microsoft's home server business is being neglected and dying.

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I partially disagree. I think Apple will be more like component stereo... AppleTv will serve up Media (from the cloud), Time Capsule will back up your laptops and desktops and serve up wireless as well as hub your network to the Internet.

But for true 'media services,' that's what the cloud will be for.

My curiousity will be when will Apple make a Time Capsule 'caching' server (ala a google-in-a-box corp server) for the NC data Center services (nothing like having my rentals and music cached locally, backups moved to the data center in the background while doing local backups at wire speeds, and having Apple automatically proxy requests through the caching server).

Making Time Capsule a $99 box, providing caching and backup services for my MBairs and iPads, and data shifting my rentals and 'owned' media to a local server even though stored in a cloud (the rainbarrel;-). Think of all the things Ping/Genius/Trailers/staged backups/staged mailstorage/local .Me manipulations/etc. a local box can do.

It's a product that enhances your iPad services, keeping the need for more than 64GB down, and deflects the QoS issues of networks. For $99 and $10/month ($20 for family), I'd pay for an 'infinitely local' Me.com. Buy the box, put it on the network, let Bonjour learn it, Authenticate into it with my AppleID, configure my preferences, and boom... instant Apple Services Accelerator.

Things can happen when you own the hardware and the software at both ends of the pipe.
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I don't agree. I believe Internet access at the home will soon be viewed as a standard utility (on par with electricity and running water). For many businesses, it's already there. If the Internet goes down at my place of business, everything stops.

and see my previous post. I really think the 'next big thing' in apple's set of HW offerings is TimeCapsule++ where you cache you can cache your part of the cloud locally (within your network). The magic of DRM in reverse (all _your_ stuff is only accessible to you), and can be cached whereever a TimeCapsule++ exists and 'learns' about you.

Google sells 'Google-in-a-Blade/Box/Rack/ShippingContainer' (and soon ContainerShip). , for appliancing their Apps and locking in companies into their search services (if you offload all search to a local box with a darkfiber direct linkto the plex, you can control a lot). Apple can do the same, and offer so much more in services, since Apple can control the HW endpoint as well.
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At the apparent event, I'd also like streaming iTunes to be announced please Apple.

Having just moved all of my music off a local mac to a network drive and found it no longer shows a single piece of album art I'm in a world of hurt as I can't even recognize my music collection. (Ideas anyone?)

Download the 'embed artwork' iTunes script for that:
http://dougscripts.com/itunes/script...hp?sp=embedart

You will need to have your 'old setup' back again; music files that DO show you the artwork in iTunes. Then run the script after which you can move the music to a network drive.

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Apple is rumored to hold a media event in the coming days to announce the ability to subscribe to publications on the iPad through an iTunes account.

that subscription thing. I don't get it. Why don't they just do in-app purchases? Because they want private data on their customers? Or is it something else? Like push downloaded editions or something? I don't get it. Why don't they (the publishers) just create a solution?
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Originally Posted by cliphord View Post

I can't see anyone in my extended family or most of the people I work with paying a premium for something their family computer does.

I think you nailed it right there. Only the uber geeks will want to have and will set up a dedicated machine for this function. For most folks having a family computer that also acts as their media hub is fine.

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Originally Posted by palegolas View Post

that subscription thing. I don't get it. Why don't they just do in-app purchases? Because they want private data on their customers?

The data is definitely part of it. Same for under pricing print subscriptions so folks will do that and not buy piece by piece at a news stand. Being able to lure advertisers by showing long term buy in could be another
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I think people would pay Drobo prices for an Apple Home Server that gave them the interaction Windows Home Server. Id think the Cortex-A8 and iOS would be sufficient for this task considering Drobo used the same ARMv5 in the Time Capsule, and HP used an Atom for their Windows-based solution (which is pretty good for a Windows OS product).

Until Apple replaces the creaky HFS+ file system with something better, Apple will never be able to duplicate the single greatest feature of Windows Home Server - block level backup with de-duplication. I installed a Windows Home Server at my church and backed up 10 workstations in less than 200GB of data due to the de-duplication capabilities that NTFS and Volume Shadow Copies enable. The equivalent storage to backup 10 mac's via Time Machine would be in the multiple terabyte range
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