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Apple issued a routine security update to its QuickTime media player for Windows and Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 Tuesday. Meanwhile, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs has reportedly promised significant improvements to MobileMe in 2011 in an email to a customer.

QuickTime

On Tuesday, Apple updated its QuickTime media software to version 7.6.9, patching 15 vulnerabilities. The security update is intended for Windows and Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 users, as Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.5 already includes fixes to the vulnerabilities.

QuickTime 7.6.9 for Windows is a 32.86MB download. Mac OS X 10.5 users can obtain the update through Software Update or the QuickTime website.

The update addresses several issues with JP2, GIF, PICT and FlashPix images, as well as AVI, MPEG, QTVR, Sorenson and other movie files. Most of the issues resolved could have resulted in unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution if exploited.

MobileMe

MobileMe will "get a lot better in 2011," according to an email ostensibly from Jobs obtained by MacRumors. The email was sent in response to a customer complaint that MobileMe is "almost unusable."

MobileMe subscribers have questioned the service's $99 a year price tag as of late, especially after Apple made the Find My iPhone service free to use for devices running iOS 4.2.

Some experts speculate that MobileMe could see an overhaul of its iDisk or Gallery services when Apple begins to utilize its new 500,000-square-foot data center in Maiden, N.C., which is schedule to begin operation "by the end of this year."

Emails purportedly from Jobs should, of course, be taken with a grain of salt, as these recirculated emails have become increasingly common, with many of the emails unverified or blatantly falsified. This summer, a top Apple spokesperson "emphatically denied" that Jobs authored statements attributed to him in a supposed email exchange over the iPhone 4 antenna issue.
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MobileMe needs updated and made a free service that becomes the center of the Apple user experience. I think Apple has known this for a while and will move in this direction very soon.
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I still say that Apple making what public roadmap as may be contingent on random emails to individuals from the CEO is completely insane.

I don't mind most of Apple's eccentricities, but this one really makes Apple seem like the plaything of one man.
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I’ve had some Notes syncing issues with MobileMe, but that’s the only issue I can say that I have. For $60/year it’s well worth the value I get for it.

I do hope this data center is for a lot more services, including a revamped iDisk that mimics Dropbox’s functionality.
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I still say that Apple making what public roadmap as may be contingent on random emails to individuals from the CEO is completely insane.

I don't mind most of Apple's eccentricities, but this one really makes Apple seem like the plaything of one man.

I wish they would stop, too. I thought they had finally stopped after the debacle earlier this year. Guess not.
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MobileMe needs updated and made a free service that becomes the center of the Apple user experience. I think Apple has known this for a while and will move in this direction very soon.

I dont see the whole of MobileMe being free, and I dont want this to be a free service like Google offers.
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Mine is 43.40 MB for Windows 7.
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MobileMe needs updated and made a free service that becomes the center of the Apple user experience. I think Apple has known this for a while and will move in this direction very soon.

I hope so because I'm beginning to wonder if paying apple this money is worth it. \
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I dont see the whole of MobileMe being free, and I dont want this to be a free service like Google offers.

Being a free service "like Google offers" would definitely be taking a step backward. The current version of MobileMe is already much better than stringing together various free services in an attempt to match what you get with MobileMe for a very fair price... that is if your an Apple user I guess.

However, imagine if MobileMe were enabled to be even more than it is currently. Imagine if it could replace your iTunes account, allow an even higher level of integration between your desktop, laptop, iPhone, iPad, etc. Don't laugh... Some people do have and fully utilize all these overlapping devices (myself included). What if MobileMe accounts could be associated together in some manner to allow small companies to forgoe having to buy and manage their own server? A lot of small companies need contact, calendar, file, and email sharing... But don't necessarily need a whole lot more. A company could pay for each employee to have a MobileMe account and if they could all be associated together, with some of the current limitations of MobileMe removed, you'd have a very turn-key and viable solution for small companies...

Just my thoughts
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I dont see the whole of MobileMe being free, and I dont want this to be a free service like Google offers.

I don't see what MobileMe does to justify the price.
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To me it seems as if there should be a multi level strategy with MobileMe.

Free - Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar and Safari Bookmarks sync.

$49 annually - All the above plus email, iDisk 10GB streaming, Photo Gallery, 3rd party app sync

$99 annually - All the above with 30GB iDisk and iTunes streaming from cloud and web hosting

$199 - Small Business. 10 email accounts, sharing features in Calendar and iWork.com Biz document sharing. Shared 60GB iDisk and more.

Software as a service (SAAS) isn't supposed to be free just because Google scrapes and sells your data. It needs to be a viable (read profitable) market. I'm ok with tossing out freebies like Find My iPhone but in the end I need to ensure that my ecosystem of mobile devices are connected to the web and my Macs and PC so that everything works in concert. I also need much better 3rd party support so when I install an iOS app i'm not recreating the wheel to get my data in sync across my Mac, iPhone and Web.
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I don't see what MobileMe does to justify the price.

Like all products and services, if the features doesnÂt suit oneÂs needs then itÂs not the right the right product for them. For me, their value are worth more the $5/month I pay for them and IÂd rather pay that and have Apple be accountable for the service than to have some half-assed, ad-supported solution Ã* la Google that does less than it does now or simply stagnates with no real incentive from Apple to improve its services.
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I don’t see the whole of MobileMe being free, and I don’t want this to be a free service like Google offers.

Just curious, you don't want it free or don't want it how google has it set up or both... and why?
For me personally, just some basic stuff like find my phone is all I might use... I think, but that's just me, not a big fan of cloud storage services, bit of a luddite I suppose, but it does seem to be the future, sigh.
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I've always thought of and utilized my MobileMe account as my own personal Exchange Server... If accounts could be associated with one another, or bought and distributed by companies to their employees, then a small company really would have a simple but powerful solution to the majority of the things a server is utilized for.

I know servers can and do a lot more than what I'm suggesting MobilMe could provide. But for smaller companies and startups, setting up and maintaining a server is a daunting challenge... I know, I've had to do it!

If MobileMe could allow me to provide my employees with a company email account, contacts, calendar, file sharing, iChat, cross-device synchronization, etc., etc. and it was all as simple, affordable, and almost zero configuration, as MobileMe is now, then I think Apple would have one hell of an offering that would fill a very real need.

They have the server farm to support it now. Sure would be cool if Apple spun a version of MobilMe in this general direction!

What do you guys think? \
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I do hope they bring the price down a bit and have different pricing for different amounts of storage. i dont really want all my media streamed from the cloud. i would rather have it local. but i dont see why it should cost that much for 20Gb of storage and some pretty basic syncing. the photo gallery is a bit redundant as i use facebook. at the very least the email should be free. the only reason i have not gotten rid of my gmail account and gone soley with my me mail address is because i'm afraid if i cant pay the subscription for some reason i will lose my email address which is a huge hassle as you not only have to contact everyone and tell them you have a new one but the email address is the login name for facebook and pretty much everything else.
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I personally think mobile me is worth it just for the sync services alone. A family pack only costs $129, less if you look for deals on Amazon or eBay. Even at full price that only works out to about $10 a month.

In fact the only thing MobileMe does that I don't like, is that the Windows version resorts all my bookmarks in alphabetical order. I've already used find my iPhone twice this week. And I like having access to my iDisk through my iPhone.

That being said, I certainly wouldn't object if Apple wanted to lower the price!
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MobileMe needs some re-doing. While its a great feature several improvements would make this more useful. We'll have to see what roll N.C. takes on to know more.
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I've had Calendar and Address Book syncing issues with MobileMe for a very, very long time! I'd even asked Apple Insider to look into the problems that many users in Apple's support forums have been complaining about for months, but I got no response. Multiple chats with Apple Tech Support never fully resolved the randomly replicating and/or disappearing Calendar events, alerts, and Address Book contacts. After getting everything working on several different occasions, things would always start going haywire again for no apparent reason.

It eventually got to the point where I just gave up trying to get my iPhone to sync because MobileMe would always screw up my Calendar events and Contacts. I haven't been able to use the feature I like most about MobileMe because it just doesn't work. I really hope there's some truth to this rumor and Apple makes MoblieMe reliable.

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Apple should just include a key with each Mac for a lifetime subscription of MobileMe. That way you prevent people from creating 100s of bogus accounts and overloading the servers. Implement a data transfer limit for web pages that's high enough for personal use with an option to upgrade for a minor fee.
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To me it seems as if there should be a multi level strategy with MobileMe.

Free - Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar and Safari Bookmarks sync.

$49 annually - All the above plus email, iDisk 10GB streaming, Photo Gallery, 3rd party app sync

$99 annually - All the above with 30GB iDisk and iTunes streaming from cloud and web hosting

$199 - Small Business. 10 email accounts, sharing features in Calendar and iWork.com Biz document sharing. Shared 60GB iDisk and more.

Software as a service (SAAS) isn't supposed to be free just because Google scrapes and sells your data. It needs to be a viable (read profitable) market. I'm ok with tossing out freebies like Find My iPhone but in the end I need to ensure that my ecosystem of mobile devices are connected to the web and my Macs and PC so that everything works in concert. I also need much better 3rd party support so when I install an iOS app i'm not recreating the wheel to get my data in sync across my Mac, iPhone and Web.

I like the idea of a tiered approach like this but I am not sure it will happen. It will depend on what value it will have for Apple strategically. The small business package may be too niche. It may not be a good idea to limit iWork.com only to business users.
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I personally think mobile me is worth it just for the sync services alone.

When the iPhone first came out I'd agree but these days gmail syncs contacts, calendar and email. Apple now offers find my phone is now free. I cannot see what MobileMe currently offers to justify its price.
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When the iPhone first came out I'd agree but these days gmail syncs contacts, calendar and email. Apple now offers find my phone is now free. I cannot see what MobileMe currently offers to justify its price.

Both MobileMe and gmail including a service that syncs doesnt make them the same. With MobileMe I can sync across Macs. With MobileMe I can easily restore or setup a user account to the settings I prefer using MobileMe. With MobileMe I have zero-config access to multiple Macs with Back to My Mac. With MobileMe I get built-in push email without having to setup an exchange account. This is such a benefit that my gmail account (my normal mail account) is pushed to my MobileMe account so I can benefit from push email on my iDevices.

The list goes on, but the point should be clear. There are plenty of reasons many of use like using MobileMe and find $5/month well worth the expense.
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Both MobileMe and gmail including a service that “syncs” doesn’t make them the same. With MobileMe I can sync across Macs. With MobileMe I can easily restore or setup a user account to the settings I prefer using MobileMe. With MobileMe I have zero-config access to multiple Macs with Back to My Mac. With MobileMe I get built-in push email without having to setup an exchange account. This is such a benefit that my gmail account (my normal mail account) is pushed to my MobileMe account so I can benefit from push email on my iDevices.

The list goes on, but the point should be clear. There are plenty of reasons many of use like using MobileMe and find $5/month well worth the expense.

Gmail has push support for email, calendar and contacts. I actually still find it magical that I can edit an address on my iPad or change a contact's picture and it is instantly updated on my iPhone. The downside is now I rarely connect my iDevices to my Mac so they don't get backed up as often as they should. If only Apple would add wireless syncing / backups.

ps I cannot remember when Google added push. It used to be push support for the Google calendar only but sometime in 2009 (I think that is correct) they added push for contacts and email as well. Before then I was considering a MobileMe account.
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I hope the "improvements" don't include another royal cockup such as what happend a few months ago when they arbitrarily decided that it didn't matter that millions of images across that web that were linked idisks suddenly broke. That's the kind of arrogant crap that drives people away.
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Gmail has push support for email, calendar and contacts.

I cannot remember when they added it. It used to be push support for the Google calendar only but sometime in 2009 they added push for contacts and email as well.

1) That’s ‘a’ service, which I addressed already, as well as stating that simply having ‘a’ service that you can append the word “sync” to doesn’t make them indentical.

2) It uses an ActiveSync Exchange setup, not the typical Gmail account, as I previously noted.

http://www.google.com/support/mobile...40&topic=14252 3) I’m not arguing that there are services MobileMe does that are worse than some free services (e.g.: Dropbox compared to iDisk) or good enough sevices (e.g.: Gmail’s Exchange compared to MobileMe push) for some users. I’m arguing that looking at a subset of some of the features while ignoring the entirety of the feature set and its convenience means you won’t see how this $5/month service is beneficial to me and others.
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What's the problem with using an ActiveSync exchange setup? It was easy to do and I have never had any issues with it.
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What's the problem with using an ActiveSync exchange setup? It was easy to do and I have never had any issues with it.

Why does there have to be a problem with Exchange? Why cant you understand that Gmail does not come close to equaling the scope of MobieMe and that email is not the only thing MobileMe offers to people. In fact, Ive already stated that I use Gmail as my main email account. i suppose I could change it all around now that I can use a different workaround to get push email on iDevices, but thats foolish on the face of it seeing as how it will require effort on my part with an end result of having less syncing options, potential incompatibles with syncing (something Ive experienced with Gmail contacts), and still have to use my MobileMe account if I wish to maintain synced Notes.
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Why does there have to be a problem with Exchange?

You appeared to be implying there was one. Maybe I misread your post.

At the end of the day, when someone sends me an email I instantly receive it on all my iOS devices as well as on my iMac. When I read it on one it is marked read everywhere. When I edit a contact or create a calendar appointment again all my devices are kept up-to-date. All of this is free. I therefore don't see any reason why I would pay for MobileMe.
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You appeared to be implying there was one. Maybe I miss read your post.

At the end of the day, when someone sends me an email I instantly receive it on all my iOS devices as well as on my iMac. When I read it on one it is marked read everywhere. When I edit a contact or create a calendar appointment again all my devices are kept up-to-date. All of this is free. I therefore don't see any reason why I would pay for MobileMe.

I’m done with this conversation. You’ve ignored all comments about how MobileMe could be a benefit to others, seem to only be focusing on email as the only viable service it offers, and for some reason read my appeal for MobileMe’s complete feature suite as some slant against Gmail and/or Exchange. The bottom line is no one offers what MobileMe can offer at any price, much less at the $5/month I pay for the service.
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I don't see what MobileMe does to justify the price.

You obviously aren't a user then. The services from webmail, web calendar, galleries, on line file storage and sharing, back to my mac, sync services - including all my preferences, web favourites even the layout of my dock when I (easily) sync a guest account on a remote machine so I can carry on working with files on iDisk is more than worth £5 a month - NO other company offers this as one integrated service. It's a fantastic investment and it keeps getting better.
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I hope the "improvements" don't include another royal cockup such as what happend a few months ago when they arbitrarily decided that it didn't matter that millions of images across that web that were linked idisks suddenly broke. That's the kind of arrogant crap that drives people away.

What are you talking about? (If) something 'broke' that's not "arrogance" it's unfortunate. As a heavy user of iDisk and the web gallery service I've never experienced an issue. The only issue in my entire subscription was when mobile me officially launched from the previous version and there were 72 hours of tinkering and down time - for a fiver a month I can cope with a weekend of downtime out of two years of incredible service.
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You appeared to be implying there was one. Maybe I misread your post.

At the end of the day, when someone sends me an email I instantly receive it on all my iOS devices as well as on my iMac. When I read it on one it is marked read everywhere. When I edit a contact or create a calendar appointment again all my devices are kept up-to-date. All of this is free. I therefore don't see any reason why I would pay for MobileMe.

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Im done with this conversation. Youve ignored all comments about how MobileMe could be a benefit to others, seem to only be focusing on email as the only viable service it offers, and for some reason read my appeal for MobileMes complete feature suite as some slant against Gmail and/or Exchange. The bottom line is no one offers what MobileMe can offer at any price, much less at the $5/month I pay for the service.

he totally ignored the syncing contacts problem which gmail is having.. i've tried many times before(2 yrs before as after i failed i bought mobileme), for example if i have a contact save with 2 mobile phone numbers, if i want to sync my contacts with gmail it will delete one mobile number and my contacts will show that person only has one number saved...
i'm sure solipsism has already given many facts why mobileme is better than gmail so i don't have to mention it.

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MobileMe is in fact, rather awesome for the apple-centric user. If apple lowers the price a bit and makes some more improvements (does software ever really stand still? No it always has room for improvement) MobileMe wil be awesomer still.

My wife and I are freelance graphic designers and for a family plan price of $74 /yr (from amazon) the service is worth every penny. In fact, I was able to drop my $200/yr web site hosting plan so I am already ahead of the game. With MobileMe we have syncing of everything we need, offsite backup storage on iDisk, and an easy way to share files with clients. Using forwarding and a gmail account, I've made our all email appear to come from myname@ourdomain.com while any mail received gets pushed to myname@me.com. Using push email means we don't need a texting plan from AT&T. More savings there. I could go on.

There are lots of little things that make MobileMe worth every penny for us. Tying to replicate ALL these things with free services is a bad cludge at best and I've always run into problems, shortcomings, and headaches. Oh, and MobileMe works perfectly for me so I'm not sure why some are having problems but it's certainly not a universal problem with the service.
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What are you talking about? (If) something 'broke' that's not "arrogance" it's unfortunate. As a heavy user of iDisk and the web gallery service I've never experienced an issue. The only issue in my entire subscription was when mobile me officially launched from the previous version and there were 72 hours of tinkering and down time - for a fiver a month I can cope with a weekend of downtime out of two years of incredible service.

I remember I have tested their "service". It was so buggy, that I had no intention to pay them. Out of the top of my head:
- the order of contact groups was really messed up (not alphabetical, no order)
- some calendars were not updating unless the page was refreshed manually
- the problem with growing outlook file (MobileMe was corrupting the database in some way)
- problem with 1 day shift of birthdays
And I was testing different ways of syncing (from desktop and from iPhone, deleting everything and syncing again. Many, many times, testing in so many different ways.)

After they announced that they improved MobileMe - I tested it again.
Still buggy.
And then I tested some time later even 3d time.
Still buggy.
(On positive note: web gallery seemed to be OK. iDisk was working pretty good.)


As you say - it is a package what you pay for.
I like a Google package:
- Mail (and their search and filter functions - love it),
- Contacts (and it is accessible behind the corporate firewall!)
- Calendar (and it is accessible behind the corporate firewall!),
- Reader,
- Documents (Google Docs)
- Wave (a fascinating technology! Love it. Though this is the only service which I do not use every day yet.)


If you are happy with the Apple's service/product and can convince yourself that it is a good way to spend several hundreds bucks over next couple of years - I am happy for you. And myself, since you bring Apple revenue, and I am long in Apple shares.
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I just picked up a boxed MobileMe code from amazon for $42. It said "old version" but that doesn't matter. Even .Mac codes still work in renewing your subscription.
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I thought MobileMe was working great for a while as well. Then my manager said she had been sending me emails, and I'd only get 1 out of 3... Or people at the company for which I often work were only getting a few of my emails. This is BAAAAAAD service. And syncing is a bit complicated. Certainly you cannot say it's elegant. I think they are on the right road, but really they should have fixed all these problems by now.
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Im done with this conversation. Youve ignored all comments about how MobileMe could be a benefit to others, seem to only be focusing on email as the only viable service it offers, and for some reason read my appeal for MobileMes complete feature suite as some slant against Gmail and/or Exchange. The bottom line is no one offers what MobileMe can offer at any price, much less at the $5/month I pay for the service.


What about cross device usage? I like MobileMe, I use it myself to sync my calendars and contacts, and to store video etc, but if I want to change my phone or tablet then I'm cooked.

I can set up Google to sync my calendar, contacts and mail in real time, just like MM, and I can use it on a Palm Pre, iPhone, WP7, Android device, Nokia, BlackBerry or whatever I want. It's a hell of a lot more flexible. If Apple opened it up a bit more across devices I would be happy to stick with it, but it's so confining to idevices that it's very frustrating.

I want to be able to use some devices that aren't made by Apple, even is some or most of them are. I am paying for the service, so it should be independent of idevices. It it were free I could see the argument for keeping it Apple only, but for £90 a year I should be able to use it on whatever the hell I want, I am paying enough.

If I pay MS or a host for an exchange account i can use it anywhere on any device. Plus it's quite slow.
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I don't see what MobileMe does to justify the price.

My wife and I have had MM (fka mac.com) for several years. It costs $140 per year for the 2 of us. We have Macbooks and iPhones. The subscribed (synced) calendars alone are worth the cost. iDisk seems to be much better now and we also use it as a secondary, in the cloud, backup for docs, photos and music tracks. And of course our email.

Making the entire package (not merely "find my device") free would most probably change the whole scenario and become not nearly as attractive an option. Free isn't always the best option.
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Since Apple did not touch iWeb or iDVD in the last iLife upgrade, it would seem to me that they will move those services to the web where you can update your me.com page from any "apple" device.

And given that no one can come up with a use for that new data center, I'm kinda thinking that me.com will become a lot like a "facebook" type service too.
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Since Apple did not touch iWeb or iDVD in the last iLife upgrade, it would seem to me that they will move those services to the web where you can update your me.com page from any "apple" device.

And given that no one can come up with a use for that new data center, I'm kinda thinking that me.com will become a lot like a "facebook" type service too.

You mean, no e-mail, no calendar, no iDisk?
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