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Two new cases claimed to be designed for Apple's forthcoming second-generation iPad show the device with a rear-facing camera, as well as a space that could be used to input an SD card [updated with even more cases].

The cases, spotted by iLounge, both show a rear-facing camera on the left side of the device, as well as a larger cutout on the bottom where the speaker exists on the first-generation iPad. One case, from Shenzhen MacTop Electronics, suggests the device will be slimmer than the current iPad.

The second case, from Kodawarisan, shows many of the same features and dimensions, but the documentation accompanying it also mentions an SD card slot, in addition to FaceTime. That has led to speculation that the large space where the speaker exists could also house a place to put an SD card.

The current iPad has only a 30-pin iPod connector as a port, but Apple does sell a "Camera Connection Kit." The adapters in that kit include a USB port, to allow a camera to connect directly to the device, as well as an SD card slot, allowing users to import photos and videos from a camera card.

The cases also show the same placement for the mute switch and the headphone jack. They also do not show a space for a second 30-pin dock connector on the side for landscape orientation docking, a feature that has been rumored.



As reported by AppleInsider in September, Apple plans to move aggressively on its FaceTime video chat standard. Part of those plans include a camera-equipped iPad, which would allow users to video chat with other others on a range of devices, including Macs, the iPhone 4, and fourth-generation iPod touch.



One report this week claimed that Apple's overseas manufacturing partner, Foxconn, plans to ship the next-generation iPad within 100 days. That would allow Apple to stock up on the device in order to have enough supplies for an April launch.

Update: Even more cases alleged to fit the iPad 2 are on alibaba.com. Like the two spotted previously, they also show a larger hole where the speaker is on the current-generation device. They are included below:



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Speaking purely as a share holder in this instance, I sure hope all this industrial espionage doesn't hurt iPad sales over the holidays! The other thought is maybe these backs are not for an iPad at all but I guess the dock size makes that unlikely ... so fake maybe? The changes do seem rather predictable though although I still struggle to imagine holding one up to take pictures. I can see the complaints already ..."Man falls off cliff due to wind while holding iPad up to take picture."
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I hope it has at least the same battery life even if it is thinner. I'd rather have a longer life on this machine (especially with Facetime and other new battery consuming features) than thinner. Keep it the same size with more juice!
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The two things that will sell me on an ipad, a webcam & sd card reader built in. make it more travel friendly please!
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I hope it has at least the same battery life even if it is thinner. I'd rather have a longer life on this machine (especially with Facetime and other new battery consuming features) than thinner. Keep it the same size with more juice!

But if thinner means lighter (and assuming the same battery life), that would address the 2nd most frequently heard complaint about the iPad. Size being the most frequent.
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Speaking purely as a share holder in this instance, I sure hope all this industrial espionage doesn't hurt iPad sales over the holidays! The other thought is maybe these backs are not for an iPad at all but I guess the dock size makes that unlikely ... so fake maybe? The changes do seem rather predictable though although I still struggle to imagine holding one up to take pictures. I can see the complaints already ..."Man falls off cliff due to wind while holding iPad up to take picture."

I highly doubt anyone will use the camera for photography.. Camera will be used mostly by augmented reality apps and FaceTime camera switch-a-ro..
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How does a rear facing camera help with FaceTime?
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... a larger cutout on the bottom where the speaker exists on the first-generation iPa. ... (which) could also house a place to put an SD card.....

It could also just be that it's a carbon fibre back this time with a more curved profile so the speaker holes have to be more on the back than on the edge this time.
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How does a rear facing camera help with FaceTime?

Front camera = FaceTime
Rear camera = ShowAndTell
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

How does a rear facing camera help with FaceTime?

The same way it does now with the iPhone 4.

My question is what case will apple design so you can use the camera while in case. In the current case design they would need to put two holes in the case for when it is folded open.
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SD slot, eh? Personally, I hope it's true. Only months ago, naysayers here were insisting that Apple should not commit itself to any single storage card standard and that the Camera Connection Kit was good enough for people who needed SD card access. As the owner of such a kit, I'd have to say that it's a real pain in the neck.
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Off topic: I think it would be wise of apple to deploy facetime over 3g on the iPad 2. This would push more people to get the more expensive/better margined 3g capable model while "testing" the service/network with a smaller workload than the iPhone would cause. My guess is this will not happen but I think it would be a very nice unexpected surprise and a smart tactile move by apple.
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Off topic: I think it would be wise of apple to deploy facetime over 3g on the iPad 2. This would push more people to get the more expensive/better margined 3g capable model while "testing" the service/network with a smaller workload than the iPhone would cause. My guess is this will not happen but I think it would be a very nice unexpected surprise and a smart tactile move by apple.

Apple has nothing to do with deploying facetime on 3G (they know the 3G limitations well enough). The carriers have dictated this, by starting to get folks familiar with data charges, and then deploying it. ATT has enough headaches with slooooow or non existant 3G service to consider allowing facetime over 3G (who knows, they may not allow it until 4G LTE is deployed, which is my guess), and only allow WiFi for now.
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The same way it does now with the iPhone 4.

My question is what case will apple design so you can use the camera while in case. In the current case design they would need to put two holes in the case for when it is folded open.

Huh.. Good question.. I'd be weird and uncomfortable to be holding the flap when using the rear camera.
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Huh.. Good question.. I'd be weird and uncomfortable to be holding the flap when using the rear camera.

Who's to say Apple would even make a first-party case? I don't remember seeing any when the original iPhone came out, or even the 3G and 3GS. I also don't see any for the current iPods (although I could be wrong there), or any for their computers. The current Apple iPad case was made because there was literally no market for iPad accessories, so Apple had to lead the charge. Now that there are hundreds of accessory makers, Apple doesn't have to come out with anything case-wise, at least in my opinion.
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Who's to say Apple would even make a first-party case? I don't remember seeing any when the original iPhone came out, or even the 3G and 3GS. I also don't see any for the current iPods (although I could be wrong there), or any for their computers. The current Apple iPad case was made because there was literally no market for iPad accessories, so Apple had to lead the charge. Now that there are hundreds of accessory makers, Apple doesn't have to come out with anything case-wise, at least in my opinion.

Of course they don't have to but seeing as they are so popular and another sourse of revenue my guess is they will want to if they have a design that will trump most others for a period of time. They are the only ones that really know the exact design ahead of time so they can use this to come out with a great accessory. If the iPad 2 does have a rear facing camera it present a problem for designers to come up with a great solution like the ipad case apple made. My question was more hypothetical and was asking if in fact apple plans to design a case how do you think they will approach this design hurtle.
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Yet another compelling reason not to buy an iPad now, no matter how tempting any discount is offered. There's goiing to be a lot of gen1 iPads dumped on eBay this spring because unlike the iPhone there is no contract.
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Apple has nothing to do with deploying facetime on 3G (they know the 3G limitations well enough). The carriers have dictated this, by starting to get folks familiar with data charges, and then deploying it. ATT has enough headaches with slooooow or non existant 3G service to consider allowing facetime over 3G (who knows, they may not allow it until 4G LTE is deployed, which is my guess), and only allow WiFi for now.

First of all, if you don't think apple has some say as to when facetime is deployed over 3g your just wrong. Especially with the iPad apple has big say with ATT assuming they did not enter a contract with them on it. And I recall SJ saying he was going to work with the carriers to get facetime over 3g in the future. Also many rumors persist that iPad will be a universal model and will open it up to other carriers. If this is the case, the carrier that allows facetime over 3g will surely win.

Although it is highly unlikely having a day where they announce both the iPhone and iPad on multiple carriers in the US (verizon) would be absolutely epic. There would be a rush at apple store like has never been seen before.
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Speaking purely as a share holder in this instance, I sure hope all this industrial espionage doesn't hurt iPad sales over the holidays!."

Nah I doubt it. The vast majority of consumers don't read Apple rumour forums. If it isn't on ITV or the BBC, UK residents are non the wiser.

Probably applies to US as well.
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post #20 of 47
When did the iPad officially came out? Mid 2010 no?
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Who's to say Apple would even make a first-party case? I don't remember seeing any when the original iPhone came out, or even the 3G and 3GS. I also don't see any for the current iPods (although I could be wrong there), or any for their computers. The current Apple iPad case was made because there was literally no market for iPad accessories, so Apple had to lead the charge. Now that there are hundreds of accessory makers, Apple doesn't have to come out with anything case-wise, at least in my opinion.

Even if they don't I'm still curious how 3rd party case makers will come up with a good folio case design..
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When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!


Sometime soon, I hope!
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When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!


Sometime soon, I hope!

I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10 iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.
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post #24 of 47
This is always my dilemma with Apple (in a good way!). Should I wait or start enjoying the iPad now?

The only reason I didn't get an iPad day one, was a little thing called the "world-wide recession!"

And I didn't have enough "cabbage!"

Now, we're on the cusp of a new iteration. I think I have no choice but to wait.

Thank goodness I have my iPhone 4! Loving it!

SD card not a big deal for me...I sold my iPhone 3Gs ($200) and Mophie juice pack ($25), and my Casio Exilim camera ($40) simply b/c the new iPhone 4 had 40% more battery life, HDR, a better camera with a flash.

So instead of storing, charging, carrying, or more appropriately, not remembering to carry...I have it all contained in my iPhone 4! My GF thinks I'm brilliant...that is when she isn't thinking I'm a complete d**kh**d!

Yep, I think the plan will be make one more sale, sell my iMac on CraigsList, order the 11" MBA w/ 4gig of RAM and then get the new iPad...or maybe keep the desktop and just get the new iPad and put the savings into Scuba diving or something...oh hell, what to do?

Best and Happy Holidays everyone!

Best

PS. FYI: FaceTime is a big deal....My daughter is away at school and we use it all the time...it is so cool to be able to change to the fwd facing camera to show our retarded cats licking their ballsack or something!
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Didn't Apple file for a patent that allowed a camera to focus through a screen?
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When are they going to do a 7" iPad, that what I want to know!


Sometime soon, I hope!

But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.
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I think additional sizes and models are likely (just like with Macs and iPods), but only after they have saturated the 10 iPad market. The iPhone is still on one YoY model, which I think is strongly tied to the App Store as the SDK would need to be updated for each display size and aspect ratio, which become more daunting with each additional product category.

Yes, indeed.

Keeping the SDK problem under control would be important
- but, we do seem to be able to manage with a variety of screen res's on our Macs & PCs ...
- so, I'm sure they can figure it out....
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Didn't Apple file for a patent that allowed a camera to focus through a screen?


actually the patent i believe was to use pixels in the screen in a combined form to "create" a camera.
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But wouldn't they need to rewrite all the Apps again for 7" size (which hopefuly they do in the correct 16:9 ratio if they do)? I thought that's the main disadvantage of iOS vs reg OS- one size does not fit all.

I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.
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Yet another compelling reason not to buy an iPad now, no matter how tempting any discount is offered. There's goiing to be a lot of gen1 iPads dumped on eBay this spring because unlike the iPhone there is no contract.
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Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.
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Also a reason to not buy an Android phone or tablet, as new better ones are coming presently.

An iPad is the only way to go for a tablet as far as I'm concerned cause I'm Mac-centric. Don't know how that plays out for the rest of the population though. I am glad that I've waited now that it's maturing to where it should be. I had no use for it as it was originally released.
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I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.

Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display
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I think they need to figure it out somehow
- if the iPad2 has a 'retina' display, then that's another res
- which may be a 2x increase, and therefore easier than a non-2x increase
- but even then they're already dealing with 4 different res's.

Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.
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Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.

I think you mean higher, but then everyone would have to sand their fingers pencil-thin.
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I think you mean higher, but then everyone would have to sand their fingers pencil-thin.

Lower. As in the iPhone 4's 960x640 vs. the iPad's 1024x768.
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Lower. As in the iPhone 4's 960x640 vs. the iPad's 1024x768.

I see. Oops, I didn't read your post so well.
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One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.

Sometimes the conversation seems like we assume Apple is just sort of winging it, bringing out additional devices willy-nilly and then trying to figure out how to manage them. History suggest that this is way off the mark, and that Apple already knows roughly what they'll be bringing to market several years from now, and that the stuff we're seeing now and in the near future have been on the drawing boards for at least that long.

So I sort of doubt that there's any panicky sense of "damn, we'd best make more sizes of iOS device, but how on earth can we keep from having half a dozen resolutions to deal with?"
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Same resolution on a smaller screen. They just need a screen with more densely packed pixels and no changes will be required.........until the iPad with a Retina display

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Another option: Apple could do the 7" with a lower resolution than the 10". Specifically the exact same resolution as the iPhone 4 Retina display. Then no changes to the SDK would be necessary.

You guys are talking about keeping the same resolution, but that in itself isnt even close to the biggest issue.

Take the iPhone 4, for example. If you used apps designed for the ¼ the resolution of previous iPhone/Touches they looked fine, but they looked better when the devs added support for the iPhone 4s display resolution as the display size and dimensions were not altered.

What youre talking about is changing the physical size of the elements to meet a different display size. This is where a new UI is important. We see that Apple takes this very seriously when looking at what Apple did to rethink the iOS UI for the iPad. You can run an iPhone app on an iPad to see just how bad a converted app works with finger based elements taking up 4x as much space.

One could argue that a drop from 10 to 7 or 3.5 to 7 wouldnt be as severe as 3.5 to 10, and thats true, but that doesnt mean it doesnt negatively affect the user experience, something I argue is at the core of Apples UI design philosophy. Bottom line: If we get a smaller tablet, well get a new UI with a new SDK.


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One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.

Thats just crazy talk¡
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the case i was privy to also included an opening for a propeller shaft.
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One thing to consider is the possibility that Apple actually does long range planning. That way back when the iPhone was still in development, they were already planning the iPad, and thinking about resolution across multiple devices and what it would mean for development.

It was reported sometime this past summer that Steve Jobs actually wanted to make the iPad first, but due to production / design and I'm sure other problems they had to shelf it and went with the iPhone first. So both products were actually (if the report is true) they were conceived around the same time and been in the works for years. Would be great to know how long things sit stewing before the public sees them.

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Huh.. Good question.. I'd be weird and uncomfortable to be holding the flap when using the rear camera.

I know it's smaller, but my iPhone has a flip cover that I easily push down on a slight angle when taking photos. Since the camera is in the corner you don't need to have the front of the cover hanging down just flip it over so it's against the back then push it down an inch or two to uncover the lense.

On that note I'd like to know why Apple puts the camera in the corner instead of the top center (in portrait mode) when others do put their cam in the center.
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