Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
I don't see a revolution brewing, just some little protests against subvention-cuts.
That's just the start.... there are quite a few different groups and different issues.
Step 2 is when they link up and join the dots
Step 3 is when they gain traction and critical mass
People are way too comfortable and rich to become revolutionary. People protest, people strike, but all the masses want are reforms, more net-income, less fees... the masses surely don't want to bring the system down, ergo no revolution
That's always the case - these people never join any movement. They are, in the main, the people who are on the side of the system.
In democratic societies revolutions are pretty much improbable, there are too many possibilities to vent the rage, to change things at the ballot-box, people can speak out their mind and democratic parties try and pander to the majorities' woes.
In democractic societies minorities have a problem as they mostly are too small to project power/interests and mostly don't have voting-rights, but since they are minorities they can't stage revolutuions either.
First, I do not accept we have a democratic society. Nor do I accept that we have a voice or the possibility of any real change through the ballot-box or anywhere else.
These reason are why there WILL be a mass movement and soon.
But let's imagine there were a real revolution brewing, what new system does the revolution want?
Let's clarify 'revolution' I don't mean necessarily an overturn of the system per se - though I do think it is on its last legs anyway and will collapse from its own inner decay - but rather a revolution like happened in the 60s.
Many people say this did not work but I disagree....it changed everything on all levels: cultural, artistic, alternative and green.
It LOOKS like nothing changed because conservatives are in control (and I don't mean just right-wing conservatives either but conservatives of all types - straights in another word) and they have no interest or consciousness of these things.
Take as an example these very boards where you can see a titanic amount of energy expended by conservatives denying climate change, posting playground juvenalia and abuse to those who DO in fact care about the fate of the planet and all of us - they just don't get it.
But many people do and this is because of the successful revolution of the 60s which gave that consciousness to those switched-on enough to grasp it - along with myriad other things like philosophy, religious insight and gay and women's rights. Again, all things the conservatives cannot grasp or appreciate.
So I think that another revolution WILL come and will finish the same work. More enlightenment on these issues though this time with no expectation that conservatives can listen or even hear.
Let them do what they want...this one will not confront them...it will build viable alternative communities, lifestyles and societies and leave them to their own.
Some points before people get confused: when I say 'conservatives' I mean Left and Right. This revolution will be non-political but will be a kind of divorce from conservatism within the familiar frameworks.
For example: In Islam - there will be non-conservative alternatives evolving to the conservative mullas.
Movements will arise where women lead the prayers, barbaric practices opposed, veils and burkas are seen as what they are: instruments of oppression etc...
And all this from INSIDE Islam - not from the usual Islamophobic neo-Nazis who usually wank on about these things. It's already happening in many places with the rise of Punk Islam and Feminist Islam.
Similarly in Christianity I see a return to the ethos of the early church and house-meetings as well as liberal Christians and gay Christians making their own communities away from 'tradition'.
And in the secular world I think many, many people are disillusioned with society and how it is structured as well as not relating to 'hippie' alternative communities.
They will make something new...what it is we can't see yet but it's in the air.