Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
The much bigger question is: Will Tunisia's new government use the opportunity to install a real democracy with press freedom, freedom to assemble, to candidate... or will they go the tried and known route and fall back to the dictatorship?
The main obstacle in Islamic Societies is Fatalism - something I agree with obviously, everything is mapped out and one can only accept it - but in terms of change it is a problem. People tend to accept quite a lot unless pushed to far or invested with some sort of fundamentalist fervour.
there is no need, freedom is already there to elect different parties or to even found new ones, revolution can happen at the ballot-box
This is a joke right? Wow........
, if that doesn't happen, it just means too many people are too comfortable with the status quo.
Of course it's not going to happen!!!! The ballot-box is the primary tool of oppression. It promotes the mediocre and conformists. It is a tool of Satan.
Besides those wishing for revolution don't have an alternative society/economy-model that could replace the "Adam Smith"-model (with a bit Keynesiamism thrown in) of generating wealth.
That's the point...and hence the violence so far....it's born out of frustration of no alternative.
One is happening though....particularly in Muslim societies. You don't hear of it because those societies and the West have joined forces to stop news of it for two reasons:
1) The Western Media do not want "Muslim Good News"
2) The East do not want any news of it leaking.
Just one example at random - earlier in the Islam thread it was mentioned about the Muslim human shields protecting the Copts.
Nothing in Mainstream Media obviously.
But the question is: could such a thing really happen without a network, ideology and a strong commitment? In short a movement
It exists and it is growing.
Communism hasn't worked, the islamistic sharia-non-interest-model is feared rather than desired, so what should the new paradigma look like?
Capitalism equally hasn't worked and the Shari'a non-interest model DOES work and is only feared by the sheep - it works so well that many, many Western Capitalists use it because it realizes more profit for them
They just don't want normal citizens to use it.
What should motivate one to leave the bed early and to do hard/dirty work, to study or ... besides money or the expectation of future money?
I can think of many things...if you can't then maybe you will be on the other side of the fence when it kicks off.
Fair enough but one should choose one's side soon I think.