Originally Posted by addicted44
So what do these guys have in common?
They are all not Google.
Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh
Apple and Google might do well to go in on it together. Neither of them has the history to defend against licensing issues like Nokia's suit. It all comes down to Mutually Assured Destruction.
Originally Posted by melgross
Right now, there seems to be so much bad blood between them, that I wonder if it's possible.
Stranger things have happened. Technology, like politics, makes strange "co-opetition" bedfellows, so even granted that this new consortium is a pre-emptive move on Apple's Google front, nothing prevents Apple and Goog from their own joint venture.
Not holding my breath for this to happen, tho'.
Originally Posted by shapesNforms
Microsoft has a very long history with working with Novell, especially on networking technologies and other things. No surprise that they are involved. All in all, a good example of how large tech companies can work together on a common goal...
MS also has a long history of sabotaging Novell and notably, some of its one time components, WordPerfect, Paradox and Quattro Pro (playing especially dirty pool with WordPerfect) - all of which Novell acquired and cobbled together into WordPefect Office (since sold to Corel at a big loss) when it attempted - and failed - to go head to head with MS in both OS's and Office suites.
Novell also acquired DR's DOS - which was the "good DOS" IBM was also interested in when it struck that fateful deal with Bill Gates - who in turn had to purchase his code from another small Seattle company. Myth has it that the DR DOS guy was out flying his plane when the IBM reps visited his company and they felt flipped off. On such small hinges turn great doors. We'd certainly be living in a different digital world today.
The costly attempt also drained Novell's resources and left it bereft of strategic directions. But it's also hard to say what a better strategy - other than selling itself to MS - or possibly Sun - when the handwriting was appearing on the wall - might have been in retrospect.
MS really only began to "play nice" with Novell once the company was nearing the life support stage, in my memory at least, but interoperability was also a wedge for MS into the remaining Netware sites. "Co-opetition" was a phrase I believe Gates coined to describe its early relationships with ISV's, projecting an image of partners marching together into the future all making big bucks. However, as the trail of corporate corpses, walking dead and goobled up bits of WordPerfect, Lotus, Ashton-Tate, Borland and so many others testifies, co-opetition with the owner of the dominant OS is at best a double-edged sword. And from the early days of PC software, only Adobe and Intuit are relatively major companies still standing on their own. (Some Apple ISV's have learned this too, e.g., Konquerer and the Watson-Sherlock fandango.)
Novell latched onto Unix and Suse in a last ditch attempt to re-invent itself, and migrate its own base to a more viable and extensible platform.
Which meant eventually essentially killing its own Netware OS to put everything on SUSE plumbing and try to play in the emerging GPL/Open Source market. Messy at their level and also for their remaining base. I don't follow them anymore tho', so don't know what Attachmate's doing with the assets it hasn't divested.