[EDIT: paring this down because it's a lot of repitition...thank futuremac]
I've spent this morning (Sunday) watching various news shows, and many of them have had this Inglewood situation as a topic, with various guests on, debating all sides of it.
Also, numerous other video clips of other "police brutality" incidents have been shown, as well as several stories or cases cited.
You know what dawned on me? In all the videos I saw (and in the stories being told): the perp/victim (take your pick) was resisting or not complying with the officer's request or demands.
Seems to me (and my simple way of thinking), that this whole issue would go away and cease to be a problem if perhaps more people (black, white, whatever) would simply quit trying to be a bad-ass, or front or engage the officers in a debate and/or actively resist and push back.
If I get pulled over, right or wrong, and a POLICE OFFICER tells me to "get up against the wall and spread 'em" or to "grab some pavement and put my hands and legs out spread eagle", guess what?
I'm going to DO IT. Not going to argue or question it.
I find it really, really hard to believe that cops simply ride around and take every opportunity they have to beat up on citizens, black or otherwise. The cop isn't going to pull out his baton or pepper spray if you're being cooperative and rational. He has no reason to. Would you? Think about it.
Put yourself in HIS position. He doesn't want to deal with a violent, dangerous nutbar and would rather you relax, act normal and deal with the situation like an adult.
That video capture of the Oklahoma guy getting whacked, they just showed the entire footage of it on CNN earlier, and this guy (in addition to being about 10" taller and a good 75 pounds heavier than the cop) simply WOULD NOT comply. The officer got one cuff on the guy and tried REPEATEDLY to get the guy's other hand. The guy spun around, walked away, kept hiding his other hand, flailing his free hand.
When the officer finally had the guy on the ground, the perp kept tucking his hand up under his body. The officer had to keep fishing for it.
Why? Why didn't he just cooperate? None of this would've happened.
How many people, upon finding out they're going to be arrested, have actually TAKEN ON the police (one lone officer or several at once) and actually got anywhere with it? No, the situation only ALWAYS gets worse and violent.
Shut up, cooperate, do what the cop says WHEN he says it and the absolute WORST that will happen is that you get handcuffs on you and have to ride down to the police station in the back of a squad car, and get booked, fingerprinted.
Has there ever been a case of someone just randomly getting an ass-beating by the cops for cooperating? Seriously? Being totally cooperative and quiet and doing what they ask?
I don't know, I'm asking. But it seems REALLY, REALLY far-fetched. Do you not think cops are aware of the outcome and downside if they go around cracking heads at random and for the sport of it? Do you think most cops willingly want to risk a career just for kicks?
Yes, sometimes the police are wrong. They get a bad description, cases of mistaken identity, make a bad judgement call, etc. Even THEN, I truly don't think they secretly get off on beating people up and are looking to do it. Even if they're wrong about you, for the time being just cooperate and NONE of this stuff has to happen.
You'll probably get an apology when it's learned that you're indeed NOT the perp they were looking for or whatever.
And if the embarrassment and shame was so horrible for you, then you can pursue some sort of protest or civil action to regain your dignity or whatever, you know? There are procedures and remedies for this type of thing.
If the cops are TOTALLY wrong about you, I'd MUCH prefer spending some time in cuffs and in a squad car or booking room than having the holy hell beat out of me with batons, sprayed with pepper spray and possibly winding up in the hospital with injuries.
If I know I've done nothing wrong, then I trust and have faith that I'll be okay, and I can take several hours of custody, questioning, booking, etc. if I know it's all for nothing.
NOTHING good is going to come out of acting like an asshole and resisting/fighting the police. Not these days.
In all the cases where police have gone too far, do you honestly think the perp kept his mouth shut, didn't say or do anything stupid or threatening, or otherwise battle or fight the police and make the situation worse?
In any case, it would be an interesting study to conduct: go back through all the cases of police brutality or beatings and see if you can find one case where the perp actually did everything right and cooperated and didn't mouth off, make threats, try and get away or attack the cops and STILL got an ass-whipping. I don't think you'll find it.
I really don't.
[ 07-14-2002: Message edited by: pscates ]</p>