Originally Posted by mytdave
I don't know about all this... I think Google has the successful long term solution here, the big question is about buy-in from networks and studios. Having the Internet (and a computer of sorts) built right into the TV is a huge advantage if implemented properly.
I thought Googles idea of working alongside the networks, not trying usurp or avoid them completely was sound, but the networks dont think so.
Having your typical internet in your TV has never been a good idea and never will be. You have one display, and using it like you would for a desktop browser will never be viable.
Unlike a set-top box, the Mac does all the AppleTV functions (movies, music - iTunes/Front Row), does all the TV functions plus handle input from the Wii (EyeTV), does all the Internet media functions (Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, etc. via Safari), provides my phone service (MagicJack), plays DVDs, and does what set-top boxes can't - be a full computer (pictures, presentations, video conference, etc), all on a single device. I use the Apple remote (90% of the time), and Apple Bluetooth keyboard/mouse (10%).
Thats like saying that a Swiss army knife does more than any separate tool, but I bet youd choose the dedicated tool if it was available. Same goes for all set top boxes. Sure, you use a PC for your HEC but its certainly no the most ideal or convenient solution for most people.
AppleTV is thiiiiiis close to being the perfect device, but there are some major things lacking: A full web browser, no 1080p output (yes it is a big deal), no way to run regular HD 'TV' thru it (can't be a DVR), a severe (100%) lack of full HD content, and no 'screen sharing' (aka remote desktop).
People want a full web browser yet dont consider how this would need to be redesigned to function for an HEC. Do you want to have remote control like GoogleTV? Maybe you do, but most people dont. Apples iDevices offer a potential solution with using a virtual keyboard, but I bet any solution will be more sophisticated than that. For example, find a site on your Mac or iDevices and then use AirPlay to push it to your TV. No superfluous address bar or bookmarks. Something more inline with Safari 5s Reader option to create rich, beautiful webpages.
*The I need
1080p / 720p sucks
comments always ride me because they never express what is truly important: birate. You want 1080p, which you can get from YouTube even though the bitrate is lower than the 720p from iTS pushes more data per frame. You are stuck in a marketing loop, which isnt about the best overall quality. Personally, Id like to get 1080p, and its possible with the Imagination decoders, but I also want it with a bitrate that betters the experience.
*It has HD content. Stop falling for silly marketing jargon.
A DVR? Really? :sigh:
I dont even know where to begin in why youd think remote desktop into your AppleTV from your Mac makes any sense for this $99 product.
The AppleTV doesn't need to be a full computer to manage all the media one would like to throw at it.
That sounds like exactly what you asked for.
Right now, the AppleTV will only receive streamed iTunes media...