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post #41 of 134
It's funny how the iPad has a picture of the iPhone up on the wall. Very subtle.
post #42 of 134
When you are the pack leader the other dogs will always be trying to take you down. Just ask Cesar Millan.
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'Dual-core' sounds nice, but does a tablet really need it yet? As long as the iPad2 is faster and competes with the competition (there's a bad sentence right there!), I don't think it matters how it achieves it.

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post #44 of 134
I rather like that advert. Good attempt by Motorola.

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This could be a very real problem as Apple does have a history here of stagnating at just the wrong time. Besides I don't see real competition coming from Android as the platform is a mess. What Apple has to look out for is RIM and Playbook as I see that platform as having great potential if they can mature it fast enough.

I don't know about stagnating at the wrong time (I wasn't an Apple user until the 2000's) but I do agree that good quality competition is good, and I don't think Android is good quality competition for the same reason you list.

Personally I'm interested to see what HP come up with now they own WebOS. I had a play with the Palm Pre and was actually fairly impressed with the OS. I fancy they could do something interesting with a tablet.
post #45 of 134
What an arduous frigging teaser!

Will their tablet be as slow to start as the teaser?

Be as beguiling?

And then deliver nothing?
post #46 of 134
Folks, its like a one dollar bill with 2 zeros at the end. Does that make it better? Really?
post #47 of 134
Yeah it's giant iPhone because iOS is the easiest and friendliest OS out there. Why make something different? Just confuse people.
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post #48 of 134
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This could be a very real problem as Apple does have a history here of stagnating at just the wrong time. Besides I don't see real competition coming from Android as the platform is a mess. What Apple has to look out for is RIM and Playbook as I see that platform as having great potential if they can mature it fast enough.

In any event I've made the decision to not purchase a tablet until iPad 2 and some of the competition hits the market place. At that point it will be the unit offering the best feature set at the lowest price. IPad 2 will most likely lead the pack but as noted above Apple does have a history of doing the wrong thing at the wrong time in such a way that it drives off customers.

Could you be more specific?
post #49 of 134
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What an arduous frigging teaser!

Will their tablet be as slow to start as the teaser?

Be as beguiling?

And then deliver nothing?


Well... At least they're not making ridiculous claims of it somehow being 'magical' -
"Why iPhone"... Hmmm?
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"Why iPhone"... Hmmm?
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post #50 of 134
"From ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets to the modern tablet, we're buzzing with excitement to be the next chapter in tablet evolution," the video's official description reads.

But they weren't in the first chapter.
post #51 of 134
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"From ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets to the modern tablet, we're buzzing with excitement to be the next chapter in tablet evolution," the video's official description reads.

But they weren't in the first chapter.

They'll be lucky to be a footnote.
post #52 of 134
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Motorola bought BeOS?

:-)
Made me smile.
post #53 of 134
It IS a giant iPhone except you can't make phone calls with it.
post #54 of 134
A bigger droid.
Is that a "transformer"?
post #55 of 134
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Originally Posted by Elian Gonzalez View Post

"From ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets to the modern tablet, we're buzzing with excitement to be the next chapter in tablet evolution," the video's official description reads.

But they weren't in the first chapter.

Neither was the iPad.
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post #56 of 134
It's funny, but a little bit sad as well, to see once great companies Like Motorola being forced to behave so childishly.

Apple has a lot to answer for.

Can't wait for the verdicts to come in on this product. Do they REALLY believe it will be better than iPad v1 ??
post #57 of 134
I must admit, I havent seen other tablets, no need, I have my iPad. But the pictures I do see, well, they look like iPads.

Maybe the new Motorola device might be triangular or double sided or a cube with 6 display faces or, or
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post #58 of 134
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Originally Posted by bartfat View Post

They didn't have Steve Jobs at the helm when they did OS 8. They had Gil Amelio. And anyway, the Apple in 1995 was way different than the Apple in 2010. I doubt that they'll mess up at all. Just try not to buy it when the herds of customers come up and start having waiting lists for the iPad 2

While they won't likely "mess up", they have in recent years made the occassional mis-steps. Because Apple refuses to use focus groups, they sometimes misjudge how consumers will react to their design choices. The buttonless shuffle is a prime example. The difference in today's Apple is they are more likely to correct their mistakes more quickly than in the past, either openly, as Steve Jobs did about the shuffle, or through design changes without admiting they made a mistake, like putting FW back on the MBPs after they took it off because according to Steve nobody needed it anymore.

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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

This could be a very real problem as Apple does have a history here of stagnating at just the wrong time. Besides I don't see real competition coming from Android as the platform is a mess. What Apple has to look out for is RIM and Playbook as I see that platform as having great potential if they can mature it fast enough.

In any event I've made the decision to not purchase a tablet until iPad 2 and some of the competition hits the market place. At that point it will be the unit offering the best feature set at the lowest price. IPad 2 will most likely lead the pack but as noted above Apple does have a history of doing the wrong thing at the wrong time in such a way that it drives off customers.

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Could you be more specific?

Apple has a lot of examples of technology that they never really followed through on or done much to advance. FrontRow is a good example of something that got a lot of attention from Steve when it was unveiled, but has seen almost no advances since then. iWeb is another example that is sorely in need of an upgrade. It's as if Apple created it to check a box and then moved on never to revisit it again. iCal is one of the worst calendar UIs I've used, and yet it's seen few updates in the last couple of OS revisions. Sometimes Apple is like a little kid, if it's not shiny with flash or sizzle, they lose interest.

If you want hardware examples, the Mac mini is a good one, at one point waiting around two years before Apple got around to updating it (again, no flash or sizzle, so they didn't give it the needed attention). The original iPod camera connector was horrible, but they didn't even try to improve it until the iPad came along. They had an FM radio/remote that never got any attention from Apple even as people begged for an FM tuner in iPods (not realizing you could add it via the remote accessory).

But to your point, I seriously doubt the iPad will suffer from lack of attention, at least not for a couple more generations, anyway. I'm more concerned with an iPad mis-step, going too far with some design concept, than I am about stagnantation.
post #59 of 134
"a giant iPhone", well there's an original response
post #60 of 134
Based on what I have observed I am certain that there is no iPad killer coming in the foreseeable future if ever.And should there ever be one it won't be running Android.The problem with Android can be summed up in 3 words.....no standardized hardware.How many different tablets running how many different versions of Android are on the market right now?Apple, on the other hand, currently has 1 tablet running 1 OS. Of course the iPad is the best because Apple has optimized iOS 4.2 for their product and their product only. Android on the other hand cannot be a serious rival until they lay down the law with manufacturers and dictate minimum hardware requirements, standardized for every tablet.I own and am typing this on my brand new Archos 101 running Froyo.While my 101 does some things the iPad can't the iPad wins hands down for build quality , ease of use and functionality.Everything the iPad can do it excels at.My Archos on the other hand is mediocre in nearly every catagory.
RIM has,with the playbook, an opportunity to follow Apples lead in quality and reliability IF they know what is good for them.With their own tablet and OS RIM may be a major player in the coming year.
post #61 of 134
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"From ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic tablets to the modern tablet, we're buzzing with excitement to be the next chapter in tablet evolution," the video's official description reads.

In the process of evolution there are many cul-de-sacs.
post #62 of 134
Here's the problem with Motorola's hype:
People really, really LIKE that 'big iPhone'.

Now Motorola - MOTOROLA, that is - has to come up with something people like even MORE.
Fat chance.
post #63 of 134
Still smarting over being the vehicle for Steve's bar bet *cough ROKR *cough* I see.

Talk to us in a month.

Bring sales numbers.
post #64 of 134
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Originally Posted by scottmcp432 View Post

Based on what I have observed I am certain that there is no iPad killer coming in the foreseeable future if ever.And should there ever be one it won't be running Android.The problem with Android can be summed up in 3 words.....no standardized hardware.How many different tablets running how many different versions of Android are on the market right now?Apple, on the other hand, currently has 1 tablet running 1 OS. Of course the iPad is the best because Apple has optimized iOS 4.2 for their product and their product only. Android on the other hand cannot be a serious rival until they lay down the law with manufacturers and dictate minimum hardware requirements, standardized for every tablet.I own and am typing this on my brand new Archos 101 running Froyo.While my 101 does some things the iPad can't the iPad wins hands down for build quality , ease of use and functionality.Everything the iPad can do it excels at.My Archos on the other hand is mediocre in nearly every catagory.
RIM has,with the playbook, an opportunity to follow Apples lead in quality and reliability IF they know what is good for them.With their own tablet and OS RIM may be a major player in the coming year.

If ANYONE would have released a tablet besides Apple with as many limitations as the iPad does it would have NEVER sold as many. I bet you'd be hard pressed to sell 25% as many. Why have they sold so many?? Because some people will buy ANYTHING that Steve Jobs introduces to the public. Not saying that the iPad is not a nice device(it is), but not one other company that I can think of has as many mindless followers, sitting ready to buy the next "iToy" that Steve has for them. For instance thousands(maybe even millions??) bought the Apple "Mighty Mouse". Are you serious?? I could have taken a rock, installed a sensor on it and it would have been better. Why not buy a decent mouse made by Logitech instead?? Oh yeah, it wasn't made by Apple so we can't use it!!

People that only buy one companies products get my goat. P.S. HAPPY iPod touch owner and soon to be iPad owner.
post #65 of 134
A few months ago, Microsoft had a burial ceremony in Bellevue Washington to celebrate the dead and burial of the iPhone, and the coming out party for Windows 7 Phone.

As it turned out, it was Windows Phone 7 that got buried on the day it was born. And so it will happen to Motorola tablet. Let's see how many corporation will buy it. Because these wannabes plays flash video, does not make any of them useful.

iPad like the iPhone has set the standard by which all must follow or die.
post #66 of 134
I was a mechanical technician for motorola in the early 90's when the company was riding high for a few years after winning the malcolm baldridge award for quality. One of my jobs was to process purchase requisitions for the mechanical engineering dept. Motorola had just introduced this all black cool looking desktop computer and it issued a mandate that everyone within the company had to get this unit as their next computer, period. The purchase reqs for all other brands would be denied. Trouble was there were few apps for this thing, all the engineers were already hooked on macs and had shown the mass of incoming engineers that they just would not be nearly as productive with these nearly useless motorola computers that the company was trying to shove down their throats. So I was instructed by my boss that any new computer req for our dept. had to be done in a special way: order a software package called labview (mac version) and then instead of putting in for a mac computer, i had to write in an order for a "labview controller". So not only did they continue to get the macs, they were paying several thousand dollars more as these macs would come in with these extra copies of labview preinstalled on them. The dept. also had to do a large order for these motorola pc computers that just sat on the desks not even hooked up, so as not to arouse suspicions that they were not obeying the company mandate. It was an open secret--no one wanted to lose their mac by blowing the whistle.
I'm not saying that this tablet is going to suck, but chances are...anyway, it reminded me of this experience.
post #67 of 134
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A few months ago, Microsoft had a burial ceremony in Bellevue Washington to celebrate the dead and burial of the iPhone, and the coming out party for Windows 7 Phone.

As it turned out, it was Windows Phone 7 that got buried on the day it was born. And so it will happen to Motorola tablet. Let's see how many corporation will buy it. Because these wannabes plays flash video, does not make any of them useful.

iPad like the iPhone has set the standard by which all must follow or die.

LOL.... Android will NOT follow the standard set by iOS, and they will NOT die. Mark my words.
post #68 of 134
motorola & others should say..."but you all copied the iPad"

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post #69 of 134
More free advertising for the iPhone and iPad. Ka-ching.
post #70 of 134
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Well...

The FACT is all current Apple iDevices (iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch) do run identical version of iOS, the same processors, etc., so there are certainly more similarities than many care to admit.

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6...ipadosproo.jpg

So, what's your point? That they have three different versions of awesome?
post #71 of 134
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'Dual-core' sounds nice, but does a tablet really need it yet? As long as the iPad2 is faster and competes with the competition (there's a bad sentence right there!), I don't think it matters how it achieves it.

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I agree with your statement, that as long as the iPad maintains its competitive edge, it doesn't really matter what processor they put in it.

However, with the competition moving on to dual core processors, and assuming Android 3.0 has optimizations for multiple cores, you're going to see moderate improvements in their tablet performance. So, with competitors raising the bar, Apple needs to improve on their chips too.

One way they could do that is by increasing the clock speed. This is a surefire way to add a lot more heat. The power consumption and heat production of a single core processor that has a higher clocker speed is (generally) greater than two cores that operate at lower frequencies. Notice how desktop processor frequencies haven't really gone any higher in the last decade? This is why.

The other way is going with multiple cores, as we saw in desktop processors several years ago. With dual cores and API's optimized for multiple cores, the iPad might even get longer battery life. Gaming performance would DEFINITELY improve, especially multiplayer games and games that have AI/computer players.
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iPad2 will cause widespread colony collapse disorder.

LMAO!

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post #73 of 134
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Neither was the iPad.

In case you haven't notice, Apple never claimed to be.
post #74 of 134
Aside from being misleading, that was one of the worst ad formats ever. OK, we get it, lots of stone ancient tablets (along with stupid jokes) and then a few computer tablets. Is there really any connection other than the word "tablet"? boring music, boring repetition, predictable old punch lines. boring boring boring. And also this revolutionary wonder is vaporware. Won't it be just a giant Razor?

Also, they broke the number one rule in advertising: never show your competition's products. They didn't even show their own product. This was just an ad for the iPad and Tab
post #75 of 134
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Originally Posted by oc4theo View Post

a few months ago, microsoft had a burial ceremony in bellevue washington to celebrate the dead and burial of the iphone, and the coming out party for windows 7 phone.

As it turned out, it was windows phone 7 that got buried on the day it was born. And so it will happen to motorola tablet. Let's see how many corporation will buy it. Because these wannabes plays flash video, does not make any of them useful.

Ipad like the iphone has set the standard by which all must follow or die.

AAAmen!
post #76 of 134
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Originally Posted by ascii View Post

Calling something a giant iPhone... not really an insult.

Any time a wannabe mentions Apple products, Apple wins. It's that simple.

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post #77 of 134
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Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post

So, iPad is a "giant iPhone." Well, Motorola's tablet is a "giant Turd."

Let's see them try to sell *that*.

Put it in a brown case and it could be mistaken for a "giant Turd" or perhaps a giant Zune
post #78 of 134
Ad was well done but unless you know what the bee signified it is confusing. They will intrigue people into at at checking out their tablet and get used to that red M its Motorola Mobility's new emblem.
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I must admit, I havent seen other tablets, no need, I have my iPad. But the pictures I do see, well, they look like iPads.

Maybe the new Motorola device might be triangular or double sided or a cube with 6 display faces or, or

Do you expect a different form factor? The ipad doesn't look much different from previous tablets. Please get off it.
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post #80 of 134
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It is interesting that Moto has this fantastic new product... What could it be... What could it be?

Then, they are so confident of their product that they decide to skip the holiday season (with all its distractions) -- and target the prime shopping days starting with Puce Friday leading up to Washington's Birthday (third Monday in February)...

... Reminds me of the time the Dodgers lost the 7th game of the World Series because they didn't start Don Drysdale with only 3 days rest -- Chick Hern said they were saving him for spring training!

... gotta love 'em...
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