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Apple is poised to report yet another record-breaking quarter this month, with channel checks indicating sales of the company's iPhone, iPad and Mac computers are tracking ahead of already lofty expectations.

Analyst Chris Whitmore with Deutsche Bank said in a note to investors on Tuesday that checks over the holidays indicated that Apple saw better-than-expected demand for both the iPad and the Mac. In addition, consumer demand for the iPhone showed no signs of slowing down, even as rumors of a Verizon iPhone loomed over the holiday buying season.

Over the holidays, Deutsche Bank checked in at more than 50 Apple retail and partner stores, and found lines and crowds driving "robust" demand for the iPhone. Despite this high demand, these checks found Apple was well prepared, with few stock-outs ahead of Christmas.

Whitmore said demand for the iPad, which remains "largely unchallenged" in the market, is tracking ahead of his model, and has accordingly increased sales estimates from 6 million to 6.5 million for the fourth quarter of calendar 2010. He also sees Apple selling 28 million iPads in 2011, up from his previous estimate of 22 million.

Checks suggested that the 32GB iPad with 3G connectivity was the most popular seller during the holiday season. And the attractive $999 price tag of the new 11-inch MacBook Air also prompted noteworthy demand.

"Apple continues to benefit from the strongest product offering in its history and the strong double-barreled product cycle is driving massive global demand for iPads and iPhones," he wrote. "Both categories are benefiting from additional carriers, international expansion, and limited competition."

The analyst also upped his iPhone sales projections for the holiday period to 16 million, up a million from the previous estimate of 15 million. He now expects Apple to sell 60 million iPhones in calendar year 2011, up from 55 million.



Whitmore's estimates do not, however, include the prospect of a Verizon iPhone, widely reported to become available in early 2011. He believes that the addition of Verizon as a U.S. carrier could bump Apple's iPhone sales up by 5 million to 7 million units.

"We expect a CDMA based iPhone to be a significant positive for AAPL with limited cannibalization at AT&T," he said. "Our DB colleague Brett Feldman, who covers Telecom Services, estimates that Verizon will add roughly 15M iPhones in 2011 with 6M cannibalized from AT&T."

Wall Street analysts will continue to share and revise their predictions in the weeks to come on what is generally expected to be another record breaking quarter for Apple. The Cupertino, Calif., company is set to report the earnings for its first fiscal quarter of 2011 on Tuesday, Jan. 18, and AppleInsider will have full live coverage as it happens.
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It depends on whose expectations you are judging by doesn't it

I totally expected a blow out although many held back for iPad v2 so that launch is also going to be way past 'expectations' too.

Buy that AAPL folks .. it is only just getting started ...
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I wonder how many other retail outlets Deutsche bank did this sort of research to.

Did they station guys outside of Walmart?
Did they have them outside of GM dealerships?
How about Yankee Candle outlets? Why Apple only? I mean, this was concerted effort, with at least 100 people, plus support personal, to measure Apples performance. How much is this data worth, anyway?
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I wonder how many other retail outlets Deutsche bank did this sort of research to.

Did they station guys outside of Walmart?
Did they have them outside of GM dealerships?
How about Yankee Candle outlets? Why Apple only? I mean, this was concerted effort, with at least 100 people, plus support personal, to measure Apples performance. How much is this data worth, anyway?

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The closer scrutiny is required due to AAPL's secretive nature in many regards, and also because of it's growth rate. The do similar things in different ways for other companies. It gives a very good sanity check.

Maybe international sales aren't as solid as US, but I see about 5-10x as many iPads on the street as 3 months ago. That makes it hard for me to believe they didn't sell 8-9MM units this quarter, and it seems like it should be closer to 15MM... but I don't think that is physically possible.
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I wonder how many other retail outlets Deutsche bank did this sort of research to.

Did they station guys outside of Walmart?
Did they have them outside of GM dealerships?
How about Yankee Candle outlets? Why Apple only? I mean, this was concerted effort, with at least 100 people, plus support personal, to measure Apples performance.

I was at an Apple store last week waiting at the Genius Bar and I saw a guy sitting on a bench just outside the store doors. He was there for over an hour. When I left, I looked over his shoulder and he had two crossword puzzles on a clipboard except that he was filling in sections with tally marks instead of letters.

I don't know how many people like him were in malls around the country, but there is no doubt. In my mind that he was working for some analyst...

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How much is this data worth, anyway?

Thats easy. If you can get information about how a publicly traded company is doing before anyone else, it can be worth millions (assuming you have enough money to act on that information).
In articles yesterday, there was a great deal of discussion about AAPL being under valued for it's growth rate (for whatever reason--enormous market cap/disrespect/anti-Apple bias...) so any indication that sales growth is exceeding expectations could be expected to have a spring-loaded impact on it's price!
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I was at an Apple store last week waiting at the Genius Bar and I saw a guy sitting on a bench just outside the store doors. He was there for over an hour. When I left, I looked over his shoulder and he had two crossword puzzles on a clipboard except that he was filling in sections with tally marks instead of letters.

I don't know how many people like him were in malls around the country, but there is no doubt. In my mind that he was working for some analyst...

I was in ther Boston Apple Store during the blizzard and it was still absolutely packed! Didn't see any one outside though! It was a whiteout out there so there could have been.
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The closer scrutiny is required due to AAPL's secretive nature in many regards, and also because of it's growth rate. The do similar things in different ways for other companies. It gives a very good sanity check.

Maybe international sales aren't as solid as US, but I see about 5-10x as many iPads on the street as 3 months ago. That makes it hard for me to believe they didn't sell 8-9MM units this quarter, and it seems like it should be closer to 15MM... but I don't think that is physically possible.

I already mentioned this on another thread, but it is worth repeating. While stranded in Boston from Christmas to New Year I was amazed to see the hotel lounge / lobby area filled with people sipping coffee and hot cider using Apple products everywhere I looked. I was there five days and only saw a single PC on the last day. It was like being in an Apple store!
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In other news, today is Tuesday!

Why are they always so surprised that Apple exceeds their expectations? When do they not?
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I own a ton of AAPL stock (as well as a ton of their "stuff") plus I visit Apple Stores whenever I can just for giggles. I am always amazed at how "surprised" these analysts are every time the earnings are announced. A person doesn't need to sit outside a Store & tally the visitors. All they need to do is go in, hang around for a few minutes & see the high volume of customers & browsers inside AND, more importantly, the high percentage that have boxes in their hands. The only thing that will hurt Apple stock is some health issue with Jobs.
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In other news, today is Tuesday!

Why are they always so surprised that Apple exceeds their expectations? When do they not?

Especially during this quarter...
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post #12 of 41
Wait for the doom and gloom to follow....

You know what happened last time the analysts bigged up the expected sales numbers, they never happened and then the Apple Stock was hit.

It needs to be said that these are NOT Apple's estimated sales, but some analyst who may get them wrong and ultimately screw up the Apple stock price again!
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In other news, today is Tuesday!

Why are they always so surprised that Apple exceeds their expectations? When do they not?

They did not exceed the iPad sales they forecasted last quarter and as a result the Apple stock price was hit. Not because Apple did anything wrong, but just because analysts over predicted sales.
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I was in ther Boston Apple Store during the blizzard and it was still absolutely packed! Didn't see any one outside though! It was a whiteout out there so there could have been.

Lol! This guy had a cushy job inside a mall... He was very focussed though--all business.

I suppose AI could start some monitoring system where we watch the analysts' watchers to track how, when and where they are getting their info...
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I think they are way underestimating 2011 iPad sales. I suspect that carrier subsidized sales will be a big part of iPad 2.0. Verizon and AT&T in the US as part of a deal to keep the iPad and iPhone off of Sprint and T-Mobile for a year.
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I suspect that carrier subsidized sales will be a big part of iPad 2.0. Verizon and AT&T in the US as part of a deal to keep the iPad and iPhone off of Sprint and T-Mobile for a year.

I cant say I agree but it is an intriguing thought. They could sell more units but how many more that way? How well did the 3G enabled netbooks sells from carriers compared to non-subsidized netbooks? Is it worth it to enough customers to save $200-300 up front just to be tied to a binding a contract for 2 years for an items that currently has a month-to-month option? Also, as of 2010 we need to consider the MyWi units they are pushing which can connect multiple devices.
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I think they are way underestimating 2011 iPad sales. I suspect that carrier subsidized sales will be a big part of iPad 2.0. Verizon and AT&T in the US as part of a deal to keep the iPad and iPhone off of Sprint and T-Mobile for a year.

Carrier subsidised sales of the iPad in the UK has not been a success.
Orange expected big sales but only managed 1,000 in it's first week of sales:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/04/...w-start-in-uk/
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I visit Apple Stores whenever I can just for giggles.

Totally off subject, but I wonder if Apple has given any thought to creating a specialized shirt for each Apple store just like Harley-Davidson stores do. Whenever I travel, I grab shirts for the kids as souvenirs and it would be much cooler if they were Apple Store shirts from the various locations.
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Carrier subsidised sales of the iPad in the UK has not been a success.
Orange expected big sales but only managed 1,000 in it's first week of sales:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/04/...w-start-in-uk/

The article says "or Orange (and possibly the other UK carriers) failed to appropriately bring the offerings to the attention of customers who might have been interested in the packages"

I suspect that was the real problem. The iPad works best with continuous data access. That's how I am posting this message right now.
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So you are now on record it seems as saying you don't think Apple had a 'beyond analysts expectations' holiday season.

We will soon see.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I am in no position to comment one way or the other. I am only saying that Deutche bank went to a lot of trouble for.... what? Is this standard for them to monitor retail stores in the US? Did they check germany? Does Apple let them?Only Apple? Is this insider trading? I mean, if a guy finds an Iphone, and opens it for research, they sue him. A guy sits outside a store watching your customers, well, at my shop, the Philadelphia police would get his ID and give him the bum rush.
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I can’t say I agree but it is an intriguing thought. They could sell more units but how many more that way? How well did the 3G enabled netbooks sells from carriers compared to non-subsidized netbooks? Is it worth it to enough customers to save $200-300 up front just to be tied to a binding a contract for 2 years for an items that currently has a month-to-month option? Also, as of 2010 we need to consider the MyWi units they are pushing which can connect multiple devices.

The myfii is an extra device to carry around and keep charged. I am sure that bundle goes away when the verizon iPad 2 is available. I have a Myfi and still upgraded to the 3G iPad because I found I didnt always have the myfi with me when I needed wireless access from my iPad.
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I already mentioned this on another thread, but it is worth repeating. While stranded in Boston from Christmas to New Year I was amazed to see the hotel lounge / lobby area filled with people sipping coffee and hot cider using Apple products everywhere I looked. I was there five days and only saw a single PC on the last day. It was like being in an Apple store!

If you really want to be amazed, go walk though a college lounge, or the school's library. At my daughters school its like walking in a luminous apple orchard.
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I am in no position to comment one way or the other. I am only saying that Deutche bank went to a lot of trouble for.... what? Is this standard for them to monitor retail stores in the US? Did they check germany? Does Apple let them?Only Apple? Is this insider trading? I mean, if a guy finds an Iphone, and opens it for research, they sue him. A guy sits outside a store watching your customers, well, at my shop, the Philadelphia police would get his ID and give him the bum rush.

These surveys generally occur at Apple Stores. At a mall, where Apple Stores are generally located, there is absolutely nothing illegal about sitting on a bench in the common area, sipping a coke and counting people going into and out of any given store. You can also count how many come out with bags, boxes, or smiles, for that matter. I'd like to see your Philadelphia cops try to give me the "bum rush" in that circumstance. If anything illegal transpires later (e.g. insider trading, etc) then the crime happens later and can not be presumed from the counting. (This is not "Minority Report"!)

But regarding legality, I don't see a problem with using publicly available information as input to your stock market analysis. Anybody with the wherewithal to sit and count could duplicate the feat at a few Apple Stores (with varying degrees of difficulty due to distance from the stores) and at several if you enlist a few friends across the country. Since anybody could gather this information then such people could hardly be called "insiders". They just happen to have eyeballs, a brain for counting stuff, and the means to transport themselves to a public place. If they then used this information to buy or sell the stock, buy or sell the information, or even release a report such as the one described, I don't see the crime. (This is different from similar reports that were based on supply chain data... data which is not publicly available.)

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But regarding legality, I don't see a problem with using publicly available information as input to your stock market analysis.

Absolutely. I think the confusion comes from the insider trading investigations stemming from "chanel checks." These are a different beast entirely, because they are not a "public" source of information.
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I was at an Apple store last week waiting at the Genius Bar and I saw a guy sitting on a bench just outside the store doors. He was there for over an hour. When I left, I looked over his shoulder and he had two crossword puzzles on a clipboard except that he was filling in sections with tally marks instead of letters.

His employer could have made that job less tedious if they had supplied him with an iPad.
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His employer could have made that job less tedious if they had supplied him with an iPad.


True, but I think they were going for "inconspicuous" more than efficient. To a casual observer, he was doing a crossword.

I dunno, but here in Jersey I suppose you could get in trouble if people got the idea they were being watched and counted...
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True, but I think they were going for "inconspicuous" more than efficient. To a casual observer, he was doing a crossword.

I dunno, but here in Jersey I suppose you could get in trouble if people got the idea they were being watched and counted...

But Jerseyites are so friendly.

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I dunno, but here in Jersey I suppose you could get in trouble if people got the idea they were being watched and counted...

Probably so. But it wouldn't be trouble from the cops and the legal system. It would be handled more, shall we say, intimately. And immediately.

Thompson
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I would expect the new MBAs to have a marked increased in Q1 unit sales but how will they affect their margins. Could the iPad best the Mac for revenue and/or profit this past quarter?


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The myfii is an extra device to carry around and keep charged. I am sure that bundle goes away when the verizon iPad 2 is available. I have a Myfi and still upgraded to the 3G iPad because I found I didnt always have the myfi with me when I needed wireless access from my iPad.

It is, but it also has its advantages. Its also only one option. You didnt address my other questions. Why cant Apple simply do what its doing now and sell iPads with cellular connectivity, why would going for the subsidized/contracted option be the best model?
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I would expect the new MBAs to have a marked increased in Q1 unit sales but how will they affect their margins. Could the iPad best the Mac for revenue and/or profit this past quarter?




It is, but it also has its advantages. Its also only one option. You didnt address my other questions. Why cant Apple simply do what its doing now and sell iPads with cellular connectivity, why would going for the subsidized/contracted option be the best model?

They could, but they'll see a ton more at $199 than they do at $529, just like they did with when they started selling iPhone subsidized. They could always give options. $199 with a contract, $499 wifi only, $529 no contract. With all of the rumors of how many displays they are ordering and how aggressively they are ramping up production, they must have something in the works to boost sales beyond the current growth pattern.
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If you really want to be amazed, go walk though a college lounge, or the school's library. At my daughters school its like walking in a luminous apple orchard.

I love it You should take a picture!
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I am in no position to comment one way or the other. I am only saying that Deutche bank went to a lot of trouble for.... what? Is this standard for them to monitor retail stores in the US? Did they check germany? Does Apple let them?Only Apple? Is this insider trading? I mean, if a guy finds an Iphone, and opens it for research, they sue him. A guy sits outside a store watching your customers, well, at my shop, the Philadelphia police would get his ID and give him the bum rush.

Frequently overlooked by readers of stories like these are the words "in a note to investors." Customers of full-service brokerage houses get these analyst reports as part of the included services. They are often based on proprietary data and not designed for general consumption. Worth keeping in mind. Also, these analysts are not "surprised" when earnings come in higher than their estimates. They are usually conservative by design. In fact the markets know this -- if a company fails to beat consensus earnings by a good margin, the markets generally take this as a miss.
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Only an estimated 28 million iPads to be sold in CY 2011???

WAY off. Come back in six months Mr. Analyst and try again.
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I am in no position to comment one way or the other. I am only saying that Deutche bank went to a lot of trouble for.... what? Is this standard for them to monitor retail stores in the US? Did they check germany? Does Apple let them?Only Apple? Is this insider trading? I mean, if a guy finds an Iphone, and opens it for research, they sue him. A guy sits outside a store watching your customers, well, at my shop, the Philadelphia police would get his ID and give him the bum rush.

OK sorry, I see your point. I took it the wrong way. I'll edit my earlier post.
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In other news, today is Tuesday!

Why are they always so surprised that Apple exceeds their expectations? When do they not?

just to make a news out of it. Does't that the way these things are supposed to work?
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Only an estimated 28 million iPads to be sold in CY 2011???

WAY off. Come back in six months Mr. Analyst and try again.

Did he really say that? Oops!
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I wonder how many other retail outlets Deutsche bank did this sort of research to.

Did they station guys outside of Walmart?
Did they have them outside of GM dealerships?
How about Yankee Candle outlets? Why Apple only? I mean, this was concerted effort, with at least 100 people, plus support personal, to measure Apples performance. How much is this data worth, anyway?

Yes to Walmart and GM, I have no clue about Yankee Candle (but if they are public, probably). This is an extremely common thing for Wall Street analysts, fund managers, hedge funds etc. If you can accurately predict an earnings surprise, possitive or negative, more than 48 hours before the announcement, there are $ billions to be made from informed trades in shares and even more so in options.

Any data you can legally collect (publicly available, not from private discussions with executives in the know) can be used to give the major investors an edge. This is why as an individual your best odds are in longer term investments. When it comes to the short term gyrations of individual securities, the big guys have all the cards and will trade on any new info before you have a chance to find out.
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Over the holidays, Deutsche Bank checked in at more than 50 Apple retail and partner stores, and found lines and crowds driving "robust" demand for the iPhone.

Contrast this to the "lines and crowds" in the five MS stores...
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Totally off subject, but I wonder if Apple has given any thought to creating a specialized shirt for each Apple store just like Harley-Davidson stores do. Whenever I travel, I grab shirts for the kids as souvenirs and it would be much cooler if they were Apple Store shirts from the various locations.

Oh man, that's just amazingly awesome! I used to collect hard Rock Cafe shirts for the kids when traveling overseas. I can imagine these things being traded like baseball cards. There's probably an eBay angle as well.

Send Jobs a proposal immediately! Seriously.
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Remember when MSs boisterously claimed the Kinect would outsell the iPad? It may have just done that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/8...first-60-days/ edit:
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Kudo Tsunoda, the [] current figure head for Kinect [] said that preorders have been really strong. As far as what were looking at for Holiday, this is going to be stuff thatll blow away any of the sales youve seen with the iPad.

If 8M in 60 days is the number sold to customers, not to stores, then Id say that wipes the floor with everything weve seen in unit sales from the iPad. Of course, thats only one measure of sales with revenue for the iPad being 4x-6x higher per unit. Still, a good haul for MS especially if they thought it was only expected to sell 5M units.
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