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post #81 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:21am
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Phew! I bet there isn't a way back, I've had many a similar experience and the time to fiddle around isn't worth it with a clone sitting there IMHO. Just clone back and start over.

Even a Time Machine restore maybe be slower than cloning. You could try TM on just the system folders (or even dragging from clone) but it maybe a real mess and you'd need to boot from an alt boot partition.

But hey, it's fun



I'd be fine with a TM restore.....but I'll be going back in history. I want to keep my current apps, my currents docs etc... I suppose I could move them to my raid array, but I wonder if that will impact my registrations/activations on them when I move back to the fresh OS....
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post #82 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:23am
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I already own a registered version Transmit v3.7 from Panic and I saw the new version 4 on the Apps Store. There is a 45% discount available for those upgrading from v3+ on Panic's web site.

Ever the curious one, I clicked buy version 4 from the Apps store just to see how it handled the discount for version 3 owners.

I clicked buy to get to the next screen ... I never saw any mention of upgrading. In the blink of an eye I now own version 4. I saw no mention of cost, discount whatever. I have no idea what I was charged. No e-mail receipt yet. I will be very interested to see if I was automatically granted the discount I would have received via Panic's own download site. Given it never asked for the serial I have for v3 I am dubious. If I am I will be very impressed.

Here's hoping!

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post #83 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:23am
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If there are complaints of that nature, they would be terrificly wrong.

That would be like calling Android a walled garden because Amazon has a curated store.

iOS isn't a walled garden either (although the iOS application system is) because the internet (represented by the standard technologies its based on) is completely unfettered.

John B. is referring the fact everything Apple does is accused of being behind a 'Walled Garden' by Apple haters. It's BS & FUD from Trolls jealous that Apple gets it right for the best, safest and nicest user experience.
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post #84 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:24am
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post #85 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:25am
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Yep, and it says I purchased it, that's it. No break out of details so far. So no way of knowing if discount was applied. My guess is it wasn't since there was no interim request for an existing serial number. I'm not losing sleep over $20 and I am sure Panic will make it right. It was a deliberate test on my part to see if Apps store handles such matters. A more expensive product might hurt in this scenario. Early days I guess.

I will know when the e-mail receipt finally arrives. If Apple TV is anything to go by that will be in a few days.
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post #86 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:33am
Where can we find a complete list of changes in 10.6.6, appart the App Store application ?

I tried the App Store app, and really it's lame in its current state ! MacUpdate and VersionTracker are MUCH better, when you want to browse apps. I don't understand all the buzz about the App Store. The only advantages I see are some reduced prices and the ability to get an app more directly.

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post #87 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:35am
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Which apps have you downloaded through the Ubuntu Software Center, and are you using LTS or 10.10?

Only free apps to be fair, but it is Linux. Kdenlive, Rosegarden, Inkscape, JACK, Cube2 (Sauerbraten), to name a few. I use primarily LTS, with 10.10 Studio on my Music Creation computer.

I am curious, if Apple will allow third party companies add their own "Repositories" for paid apps in the Apple Mac Store? I highly doubt it because of the all the financial hurdles it would require, but it would be interesting.
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post #88 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:37am
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I'd be fine with a TM restore.....but I'll be going back in history. I want to keep my current apps, my currents docs etc... I suppose I could move them to my raid array, but I wonder if that will impact my registrations/activations on them when I move back to the fresh OS....

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I'm thinking you just have TM right?
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post #89 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:41am
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Yep, and it says I purchased it, that's it. No break out of details so far. So no way of knowing if discount was applied. My guess is it wasn't since there was no interim request for an existing serial number. I'm not losing sleep over $20 and I am sure Panic will make it right. It was a deliberate test on my part to see if Apps store handles such matters. A more expensive product might hurt in this scenario. Early days I guess.

I will know when the e-mail receipt finally arrives. If Apple TV is anything to go by that will be in a few days.

Check your account in the iTunes Store. Your Mac App Store purchases will be listed there.

I don't see a way to access my store account via the Mac App Store. No doubt it will come.
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post #90 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:44am
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I don't understand all the buzz about the App Store. The only advantages I see are some reduced prices and the ability to get an app more directly.

Yeah, and who wants that?
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post #91 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:48am
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Check your account in the iTunes Store. Your Mac App Store purchases will be listed there.

I don't see a way to access my store account via the Mac App Store. No doubt it will come.

Good idea ... It get's more interesting ... no sign of the Apps Store purchase I just made in my iTune account.

I am glad I just looked though I have been billed for some Verizon app I didn't buy!

Spoke too soon, it just popped in ... full price grrrr.
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post #92 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:50am
Well, I hope Apple didn't made a whole update of their OS just to give us the App Store crap. What are the other changes in Snow Leopard ? This page is blank (from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1343) :

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4459

Browsing apps in the App Store is a pain in the butt. There doesn't seem to have a Math/Scientific section ! Where are the scientific apps ?

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post #93 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:51am
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I'd be fine with a TM restore.....but I'll be going back in history. I want to keep my current apps, my currents docs etc... I suppose I could move them to my raid array, but I wonder if that will impact my registrations/activations on them when I move back to the fresh OS....

I didn't have the 10.6.6 beta but had the 10.6.5 beta a while back, but installed the 10.6.5 final over it. I still had problems trying to get 10.6.6 installed using the regular update. I downloaded the 10.6.6 combo update from: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349

and it is now installing. Try that. It's a 1GB file though...
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post #94 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:55am
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Good idea ... It get's more interesting ... no sign of the Apps Store purchase I just made in my iTune account.

I am glad I just looked though I have been billed for some Verizon app I didn't buy!

Interesting. The two apps that I just downloaded from the Mac App store are present under iTunes purchase history. Maybe it's because both were free.
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post #95 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:56am
Got Sketchbook Pro 2011 for a cheap price from the App Store...

I have never downloaded desktop software before in which it only took a few seconds. No opening DVD boxes, popping the disc, going through several installation steps, typing in serial numbers, etc.
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post #96 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:57am
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post #97 of 252
1/6/11 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

Interesting. The two apps that I just downloaded from the Mac App store are present under iTunes purchase history. Maybe it's because both were free.

The bill showed up seconds later. But as I said I was charged full price and never asked if I was upgrading. This needs to be fixed or Apps store needs to warn existing owners they should go to the seller's web site not the Apps store if upgrading. As I said, this was a low cost test on my part and I almost expected this but a sophisticated system like this could easily have an interim step to ask if upgrading etc. you'd think.
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post #98 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:01am
I've downloaded the app store. I don't see a way to have the program download all the apps that I already own. Is there a simple way to do this?
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post #99 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:02am
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Got Sketchbook Pro 2011 for a cheap price from the App Store...

I have never downloaded desktop software before in which it only took a few seconds. No opening DVD boxes, popping the disc, going through several installation steps, typing in serial numbers, etc.

We'll be reminiscing in years to come about the smell of the new box and packaging back in the old days
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post #100 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:03am
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I've downloaded the app store. I don't see a way to have the program download all the apps that I already own. Is there a simple way to do this?

Just curious, why would you want to download what you already have?
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post #101 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:03am
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Well, I hope Apple didn't made a whole update of their OS just to give us the App Store crap. What are the other changes in Snow Leopard ? This page is blank (from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1343) :

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4459

Browsing apps in the App Store is a pain in the butt. There doesn't seem to have a Math/Scientific section ! Where are the scientific apps ?

Something like 64 Bit Calculator? Type math in search box. The selection is small for the moment.

Give it a chance. Developers have only had a few months and there are thousands working on theirs at the moment.
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post #102 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:03am
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The bill showed up seconds later. But as I said I was charged full price and never asked if I was upgrading. This needs to be fixed or Apps store needs to warn existing owners they should go to the seller's web site not the Apps store if upgrading. As I said, this was a low cost test on my part and I almost expected this but a sophisticated system like this could easily have an interim step to ask if upgrading etc. you'd think.

I suspect the Mac app store only detects apps purchased from the Mac app store. I mean, I doubt I could purchase software from Amazon, then be able to purchase an upgrade from the Mac app store.
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post #103 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot View Post

Because iWork '09 IS THE LATEST VERSION... the latest incremental UPDATE to it was January 03 '11, that's where that date comes from, but it's still the '09 app.
They have to add significant (in Apple's opinion) new features before they'll slap a new name on it. (Rumored to be coming soon.)

As of today, there is NO SUCH THING as iWork '11.

Then why isn't the App Store recognizing that I have the latest version installed? The only thing it recognizes apparently is the iLife apps.
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post #104 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I think you're right. I had the same experience. It makes sense that some of the apps will have to be downloaded from the store for the first time before the system recognises them.

The only thing I'm unhappy about is the prices.

The model for these kind of stores is high volume and low prices, anything else is just highway robbery. Apple has done the right thing and lowered prices dramatically on their high end products and a couple of other companies like Pixelmator have also.

Unfortunately the once fantastic OmniGroup insists on ripping everyone off for their stuff and a lot of other developers have followed suit. There is no way the average person is going to buy an $80.00 item, sight unseen, based on a two paragraph description and a couple of screen shots. No one but a fool would buy "Bejeweled" for 20 bucks, etc. etc. Let's hope the prices even out a bit lower than what we see now.

I agree in part. $200 for a 50Mb application from OmniGroup IS ridiculous, but Bejeweled 3 costs the same $20 it does for Windows

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post #105 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:07am
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Just curious, why would you want to download what you already have?

Sounds like he's saying he wants the App store to recognize all the apps he's already purchased so that in the event of a hard drive crash or something, he can just re-download them again(for free).
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post #106 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:08am
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I suspect the Mac app store only detects apps purchased from the Mac app store. I mean, I doubt I could purchase software from Amazon, then be able to purchase an upgrade from the Mac app store.

You are missing my point.

I am not expecting the Apps store to check anything, I am expecting a 3rd part seller to have the ability to add an interim screen between 'Buy' and 'Download /Bill" that asks "Are you an existing owner ... if so enter your valid serial number" and a discount then be applied as the 3rd Part web site does. It is not rocket science.
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post #107 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:09am
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Well, I hope Apple didn't made a whole update of their OS just to give us the App Store crap. What are the other changes in Snow Leopard ?

What other changes in Snow Leopard? You do know that's called Mac OS X Lion, don't you?

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post #108 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

You are missing my point.

What else is new?
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1/6/11 at 9:11am
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Sounds like he's saying he wants the App store to recognize all the apps he's already purchased so that in the event of a hard drive crash or something, he can just re-download them again(for free).

I'd expect that for Apple products purchased previously from Apple and registered and all apps purchased through the new apps store from now on in the verified Mac that made the purchase. I think we have teething problems for a while though
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post #110 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:11am
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What else is new?

Sorry didn't mean to sound snippy
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post #111 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:12am
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What other changes in Snow Leopard? You do know that's called Mac OS X Lion, don't you?

He's talking about 10.6.6.
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post #112 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:14am
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I've downloaded the app store. I don't see a way to have the program download all the apps that I already own. Is there a simple way to do this?

What apps on the paid app section do you already own? Other than iLife apps, all the other 'paid' apps appear to be new.
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post #113 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:17am
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I didn't have the 10.6.6 beta but had the 10.6.5 beta a while back, but installed the 10.6.5 final over it. I still had problems trying to get 10.6.6 installed using the regular update. I downloaded the 10.6.6 combo update from: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349

and it is now installing. Try that. It's a 1GB file though...

Tried, does not work.

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Well, I hope Apple didn't made a whole update of their OS just to give us the App Store crap. What are the other changes in Snow Leopard ? This page is blank (from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1343) :

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4459

Browsing apps in the App Store is a pain in the butt. There doesn't seem to have a Math/Scientific section ! Where are the scientific apps ?

second link is not working...
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post #114 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:18am
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Well, I hope Apple didn't made a whole update of their OS just to give us the App Store crap. What are the other changes in Snow Leopard ? This page is blank (from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1343) :

Are you blind? On the same page
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For detailed information on this update, please visit this website:http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4460 .
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1/6/11 at 9:19am
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post #116 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by Kali View Post

... The only advantages I see are some reduced prices and the ability to get an app more directly.

And you're still bitching about it..
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post #117 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by Onhka View Post

Are you blind? On the same page

I'm getting a blank page (all white).

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post #118 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:22am
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edit....

It is quite possible to only transfer the System and Library plus invisible files from a working back up and not touch the user data (including Library).

You'd need a clone (not a TM) to be safe before starting though.
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post #119 of 252
1/6/11 at 9:24am
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I'm getting a blank page (all white).

For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4460 .
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1/6/11 at 9:26am
Taking bets on the big announcements for CES 2012.

The WINDOWS APP STORE

THE HP APP STORE

THE SONY APP STORE

and so on............
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