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A new report claims that Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs will likely make an onstage appearance next Tuesday at Verizon's media event, which is rumored to contain the long-awaited announcement of a Verizon-compatible CDMA iPhone.

After Verizon sent out invitations to members of the press for a Jan. 11 event with Verizon President Lowell McAdam, a flurry of speculation arose that the event would feature the debut of the Verizon iPhone.

John Paczkowski of the Wall Street Journal Digital Daily blog has added to the rumors, claiming that Apple's Jobs "will likely be a special guest."

"While the appearance isnt 100 percent assured, sources in a position to know tell me that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Jobs will likely join McAdam onstage in New York when he announces the addition of the iPhone to its handset lineup," wrote Paczkowski, who views the event's New York location as evidence of a simple carrier announcement for "last year's iPhone."

According to Paczkowski, a new hardware announcement would instead take place in Cupertino or San Francisco.

In October, McAdam told the press that "Apple is the one that has to make" the Verizon iPhone announcement.

Rumors surrounding the Jan. 11 event were bolstered Friday by another rumor that the Verizon iPhone will go on sale on Thursday, Feb. 3. Earlier this week, AppleInsider was first to report that Apple has blocked its retail employees from taking vacation for a three-week period from the last week in January to the first two weeks in February.

Photos and video of a purported "unreleased iPhone design" surfaced earlier this week. The new design alters Apple's controversial antenna design from the iPhone 4, with two "antenna gaps" on each side and none on top. The video, which was posted to YouTube, has since been removed due to a copyright claim from Apple.
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After years of praising the merits of AT&T's network, the FASTEST in the country, which allows simultaneous data and voice use, Apple fanboys everywhere will be confused. Do they still say that AT&T is better than Verizon or do they get sucked in by the RDF telling them that Verizon is better. Or was it RDF which sucked them into thinking AT&T was the best?

Whichever one it is, one thing will be sure: fanboys will be praising the move just like they did once Apple changed from RISC to CISC processors.

RDF is very strong. It'll be interesting to see how the fanboys here react to it.
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I don’t think that’s likely. I could see another member of Apple’s higher staff there, but not Jobs. Remember, Apple isn’t getting rid of AT&T and this isn’t some fancy new HW and OS/UI that needs to be demoed, it’s just the iPhone 4 for Verizon’s network according to most people.

PS: First Apple releases the Mac App Store on day 1 of CES and the Verizon drops the bomb on an event on day 2. Apple has stolen the focus of CES this year, which is ironic since most vendors were just playing copycat to Apple’s products.
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Maybe he will do it using FaceTime from Cupertino

J/K

But I do think SJ will show up.
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After years of praising the merits of AT&T's network, the FASTEST in the country, which allows simultaneous data and voice use, Apple fanboys everywhere will be confused. Do they still say that AT&T is better than Verizon or do they get sucked in by the RDF telling them that Verizon is better. Or was it RDF which sucked them into thinking AT&T was the best?

Whichever one it is, one thing will be sure: fanboys will be praising the move just like they did once Apple changed from RISC to CISC processors.

RDF is very strong. It'll be interesting to see how the fanboys here react to it.

About as predictably as trollboys such as you.
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Maybe he will do it using FaceTime from Cupertino

J/K

But I do think SJ will show up.

Why? Nothing to demo. And by showing up, he effectively snubs AT&T, which has been a good partner. There is no extra ummph to gain.
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Which is it? Is Verizon's network better, or is it AT&T? Or is it whatever Steve Jobs says it is?
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Why? Nothing to demo. And by showing up, he effectively snubs AT&T, which has been a good partner. There is no extra ummph to gain.

Apple is very protective when it comes to the iPhone and iPad. They didn't let AT&T make a single TV ad. I don't think Apple care about how AT&T looks now. AT&T changed the iPads data plans few days after the release. That probably pissed SJ. Beside, giving the iPhone to Verizon is worst than SJ showing up.
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Apple are very protective when it comes to the iPhone and iPad. They didn't let AT&T make a single TV ad. I don't think Apple care about how AT&T looks now. AT&T changed the iPads data plans few days after the release. Beside, giving the iPhone to Verizon is worst than SJ showing up.

But they did let VZ make an iPad commercial.
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Which is it? Is Verizon's network better, or is it AT&T? Or is it whatever Steve Jobs says it is?

There's no correct answer its purely subjective. You'll get a million different answers. I tend to think that most of the ATT detractors were previous VZW customers ans switched because of the iPhone. They'll probably be the ones wanting to switch to VZW the most, and second those that live in an area where ATT has a problem with service.
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Why? Nothing to demo. And by showing up, he effectively snubs AT&T, which has been a good partner. There is no extra ummph to gain.

Overseas Apple does not take part in any new carrier announcements. So you might be right.
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Apple is very protective when it comes to the iPhone and iPad. They didn't let AT&T make a single TV ad. I don't think Apple care about how AT&T looks now. AT&T changed the iPads data plans few days after the release. That probably pissed SJ. Beside, giving the iPhone to Verizon is worst than SJ showing up.

I think Gruber sums up my take on this very nicely.
http://daringfireball.net/2011/01/verizon_event
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After years of praising the merits of AT&T's network, the FASTEST in the country, which allows simultaneous data and voice use, Apple fanboys everywhere will be confused. Do they still say that AT&T is better than Verizon or do they get sucked in by the RDF telling them that Verizon is better. Or was it RDF which sucked them into thinking AT&T was the best?

Whichever one it is, one thing will be sure: fanboys will be praising the move just like they did once Apple changed from RISC to CISC processors.

RDF is very strong. It'll be interesting to see how the fanboys here react to it.

The only reality distortion field is the one that you seem to live in, where apple users have been praising AT&T for years. Every single iphone users I know either hates AT&T, or finds it "as good" as any other provider. Sorry to ruin your fanboy narrative but it's all in your head.
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The only reality distortion field is the one that you seem to live in, where apple users have been praising AT&T for years. Every single iphone users I know either hates AT&T, or finds it "as good" as any other provider. Sorry to ruin your fanboy narrative but it's all in your head.

Highest number of dropped calls. The worst nationwide 3g coverage.

Yeah, nobody ever mentions that.
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I vowed to stick to my 1st gen iphone once my at&t contract expired, so that i could jump ship back to verizon as soon as their iphone arrives. It was very tempting but it may have finally paid off. Of course there will probably be a huge catch, something like verizon iphone plans all start at $99 or something crazy like that.
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Highest number of dropped calls. The worst nationwide 3g coverage.

Yeah, nobody ever mentions that.

Lots of nobodies around here mention it all the fraking time. See above.
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I think you need to adjust your sarcasm detector.
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I don't think that there will be a Verizon iPhone announcement prior to new hardware in the summer. It just doesn't make sense to lure folks in right now and then flip the finger at them with a better phone way before any of them would be eligible for any kind of upgrade. Or worse, announce that ATT gets one more year of exclusive rights to the latest and greatest but they are stuck with the older stuff (like the 3GS). PR nightmare in the making

IF Jobs is there, it might may be to announce that yes there will be a phone in the summer. Or it could have to do with a native CDMA iPad.

As for the whole snubbing ATT talk, they knew one day they wouldn't be the only game. So their feelings shouldn't be too hurt given the four years they got out of the deal.

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I think Gruber sums up my take on this very nicely.
http://daringfireball.net/2011/01/verizon_event

Gruber does sum it up nicely. The iPhone is now on n+1 carriers.
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Highest number of dropped calls. The worst nationwide 3g coverage.

Yeah, nobody ever mentions that.

Are you serious? There were entire threads dedicated to flame wars between AT&T and Verizon proponents where this was mentioned ad nauseam. In most cases the people on both sides were Apple fans. Certainly there were many that defended AT&T only because they were Apple's partner, but to pretend every Apple fan blinded themselves to AT&T's faults is being dishonest.

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About as predictably as trollboys such as you.

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Which is it? Is Verizon's network better, or is it AT&T? Or is it whatever Steve Jobs says it is?

Thank you for making my point. Now go back under the bridge until more troll bait is laid out for you.
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Lots of nobodies around here mention it all the fraking time. See above.

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Regardless of who shows up, someone needs to bring a big laptop plus loud speakers to play the Island of Misfit toys during the announcement.
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This would make it the first time I can see Jobs attend a technology related event outside Apple.
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Regardless of who shows up, someone needs to bring a big laptop plus loud speakers to play the Island of Misfit toys during the announcement.

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So, help me out here... I thought Apple had a 5-year exclusive agreement with AT&T. How are they able to break that?
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So, help me out here... I thought Apple had a 5-year exclusive agreement with AT&T. How are they able to break that?

I think it was a three year with a possibility of extending to 5, renewable every year. But I don't know if any official info on this is available. I've read Apple could have dropped exclusivity as early as 2010.
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So, help me out here... I thought Apple had a 5-year exclusive agreement with AT&T. How are they able to break that?

Someone broke it at least a year ago. Whether it was Apple with a product or AT&T with not keeping up to their promised service, the original contract is null and void.

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So, help me out here... I thought Apple had a 5-year exclusive agreement with AT&T. How are they able to break that?

1) There is no confirmation of how long the current contract is. All we had was Verizon saying Apple came to them first and wanted a 5 year contract, and then last year court documents from the original contract with AT&T stating 5 years.

2) The contract could still be for 5 years. IOW, guaranteed to supply AT&T with iPhones for 5 years, but allow Apple to source new carriers after 4. It might also specify a window in which AT&T gets new iPhone revisions x-many day/months before the other carriers that come on after 4 years.

30 Contracts can be complex. Even if we saw the documents there would be arguments about what is actually be said, believe you me.
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So, help me out here... I thought Apple had a 5-year exclusive agreement with AT&T. How are they able to break that?

I thought there was a lot of speculation that the contract was renegotiated when they moved to subsidized pricing.
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About as predictably as trollboys such as you.

Nicely said
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After years of praising the merits of AT&T's network, the FASTEST in the country, which allows simultaneous data and voice use, Apple fanboys everywhere will be confused. Do they still say that AT&T is better than Verizon or do they get sucked in by the RDF telling them that Verizon is better. Or was it RDF which sucked them into thinking AT&T was the best?

Whichever one it is, one thing will be sure: fanboys will be praising the move just like they did once Apple changed from RISC to CISC processors.

RDF is very strong. It'll be interesting to see how the fanboys here react to it.

Whatever keeps you entertained
A Verizon announcement has no interest to me, as I am quite satisfied with AT&T. CDMA? Been there, done that. It's end-of-life technology. If I had my way, all carriers would be full-speed LTE now, and there would be no vendor lock-in, and you could travel the world and your phone would work everywhere. I'd also abolish the two-year contract.

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Which is it? Is Verizon's network better, or is it AT&T? Or is it whatever Steve Jobs says it is?

Apple will not pick a winner - they are both capable and valued partners. Part of Jobs' supposed RDF is his acumen for knowing what not to say.
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After years of praising the merits of AT&T's network, the FASTEST in the country, which allows simultaneous data and voice use, Apple fanboys everywhere will be confused. Do they still say that AT&T is better than Verizon or do they get sucked in by the RDF telling them that Verizon is better. Or was it RDF which sucked them into thinking AT&T was the best?

Whichever one it is, one thing will be sure: fanboys will be praising the move just like they did once Apple changed from RISC to CISC processors.

RDF is very strong. It'll be interesting to see how the fanboys here react to it.

How old are ? Do you call all adults boys ? What allows you to be disrespectful ?
I am a fan of Apple, but I am not a boy, my question to you is. What are you a fan of, obviously not Apple, and how old are you ? If under 18 and a fan of M$ or Androyd, then I have the right to call you <insert here>boy, unless you are a female. So if you continue to call me a Fanboy then I will call you a fangirlie irrespective of your gender, I think that is only fair.
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How old are ? Do you call all adults boys ? What allows you to be disrespectful ?
I am a fan of Apple, but I am not a boy, my question to you is. What are you a fan of, obviously not Apple, and how old are you ? If under 18 and a fan of M$ or Androyd, then I have the right to call you <insert here>boy, unless you are a female. So if you continue to call me a Fanboy then I will call you a fangirlie irrespective of your gender, I think that is only fair.

Well said
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Someone broke it at least a year ago. Whether it was Apple with a product or AT&T with not keeping up to their promised service, the original contract is null and void.

Some of you need a lesson in contracts. They usually go in effect immediately. Apple and Cingular signed their exclusivity contract in 2006 and became effective then not in 2007. Some of you might think that's dumb but its not much different in sports. A player gets signed and becomes part of a team months before he plays a single minute. So in 2011 the contract is 5 yrs old and it's ended not null and void.
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Some of you need a lesson in contracts. They usually go in effect immediately. Apple and Cingular signed their exclusivity contract in 2006 and became effective then not in 2007. Some of you might think that's dumb but its not much different in sports. A player gets signed and becomes part of a team months before he plays a single minute. So in 2011 the contract is 5 yrs old and it's ended not null and void.

Okay, what does that have to do with what I said? I said nothing about the duration. The contract was changed at some point before the launch of the iPad, so your timing is meaningless.

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Apple will not pick a winner - they are both capable and valued partners. Part of Jobs' supposed RDF is his acumen for knowing what not to say.

I liked the part in bold. Very true.
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This would make it the first time I can see Jobs attend a technology related event outside Apple.

Unimaginable. that's why Steve Jobs wouldn't show up. Tim may be?
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Okay, what does that have to do with what I said? I said nothing about the duration. The contract was changed at some point before the launch of the iPad, so your timing is meaningless.

How we do know the contract was changed? It could be simply that it expired. I'm sure Apple decided to seek another partner before the contract expired instead of after it and the growth of Android probably expedited that need. Its obvious ATT knew it was coming to a end because they raised the ETF plus allowed anyone who would eligible for an upgrade anytime in 2010 to upgrade early, and now with the Atrix coming out no longer have second rate Android devices.
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