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Verizon will reportedly announce the iPhone on Tuesday paired with its existing service plans, including an all-you-can-eat data plan, and become available to subscribers later this month.

A report published by Reuters credited an unnamed source for saying Verizon would sell the iPhone with its existing wireless plans.

Update: A second report by the Wall Street Journal specifically notes that Verizon will offer its existing unlimited data plan to iPhone users, something AT&T no longer offers to new subscribers.

"It wasn't clear how long Verizon would offer unlimited plans," the report said. "Its executives have said repeatedly that the industry needs to move to some form of tiered pricing as data use rises, but for the moment the carrier is sticking with its current data plans."

Verizon sets a separate 5GB data limit on its tethering option and on data plans for USB modems and similar PC-oriented WWAN services, but users report that the company does indeed offer truly unlimited data for existing smartphone users.

If the company does indeed offer unlimited data plans for new iPhone subscribers, it will be a unique incentive that may be more likely to draw existing AT&T customers.

Verizon currently offers smartphone voice plans that are nearly identical to AT&T. There are some regional differences in service plans, as well as family and business plans, but the general terms of each carrier's current plans are outlined below, with differences highlighted in red.

AT&T offers rollover minutes, while Verizon offers users on its cheapest calling plan the ability to list five contacts they can make unlimited calls with. Both company's unlimited calling plans are virtually identical.

In data plans, AT&T has given up its unlimited data plan for iPhone users and replaced it with 200MB and 2GB (2000MB) options. Tethering the iPhone to use its mobile 3G with a laptop costs an additional $20 per month but does not offer any additional data service.

Verizon offers a more limited basic data plan for the same amount, and currently offers unlimited data for $30 per month. Tethering is an additional $30, and comes with 5GB of data (rather than counting against unlimited use). Using a smartphone with an Exchange Server incurs an additional $15 per month charge.

While the quality and coverage of service the two carriers offer fluctuate by region, Verizon generally has broader 3G coverage in rural markets and some cities, while AT&T currently offers the fastest data service in markets it covers well (typically metro areas, notably excluding New York and San Francisco).

AT&T's service also enables users to roam globally on other GSM/UMTS carriers, although this is very expensive. AT&T's UMTS service also supports simultaneous voice and data use, unlike Verizon, where users must terminate their call before they can again receive push messages or browse the web.

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How about without data, hmm? I have zero use for it.

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Are they seriously going to charge for using Exchange? Deff not switching to Verizon now.
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Don't forget they also charge $2.99 for visual voicemail.
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Are they seriously going to charge for using Exchange? Deff not switching to Verizon now.

Vzw will also charge for visual voice mail $2.99 a month.
They break that feature off evey phone then charge the customer to get it back.
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AT&T offers rollover minutes, while Verizon offers users on its cheapest calling plan the ability to list five contacts they can make unlimited calls with. Both company's unlimited calling plans are virtually identical.

I don't believe that's true. As far as I know, Verizon requires at least 900 talk minutes to qualify for their Friends and Family unlimited 5 plan. Which obviously isn't their cheapest calling plan.
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How about without data, hmm? I have zero use for it.

I doubt it. Data on cellphones is the carriers bread and butter. You might be able to find some work around but I think that would be more likely on an unlocked iPhone GSM, not an iPhone CDMA which will have to be cracked.


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Are they seriously going to charge for using Exchange? Deff not switching to Verizon now.

If Verizon keeps unlimited data for the iPhone -and- AT&T disallows the continuation of unlimited data when you sign a new iPhone contract Id have to consider switching, even if it meant losing simultaneous voice and data, and losing the speed of HS*PA. Outside of that I have no use for Verizon.
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Don't forget they also charge $2.99 for visual voicemail.

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Vzw will also charge for visual voice mail $2.99 a month.
They break that feature off evey phone then charge the customer to get it back.

Id think this would be free for the iPhone. My reasoning which could have false assumptions is that the with Verizon and other carriers visual voicemail is saved on their servers and requires the device to phone home at your request to pull those those audio files, but with the iPhone its saved on the device, thus eliminating the carriers need for storing your messages on their server.
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?
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You think Verizon is going to make their plans cheaper than AT&T? Get real.
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?

Like give us your old iPhone and we will pay for your AT&T termination fee?
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I'm pretty sure that's misleading... I don't think they actually charge $15 to use your own exchange server (I believe its just for verizon's hosted servers). AT&T has the same $15 fee for corporate accounts, which no one actually pays.
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?

Even if they did, I wouldn't leave at&t. I get speeds far superior to their CDMA and close to their current LTE on the download side. Plus simultaneous voice and data is critical for me. Maybe once Apple offers an LTE based phone without an increase in costs of the plan would change my mind.
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I expected lower prices at Verizon....after all you are getting less:

-slower speed
-no concurrent data and voice access (I can't use my GPS while I talk!)
-no international coverage
-no rollover minutes
-no free visual voicemail
-no free wifi
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Thus was hoping for something a little more agressive from Verizon. The details might cause me to switch.

What details? Well how about FaceTime support over the cell link. If tethering is supported as a pay as you go, when you need it, feature that would be nice two. There are other considerations but the key is will it be as cheap as AT$T.

By the way AT&T has been very good for me so Verizon needs a really have a strong offering to get me to switch.
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I'm pretty sure that's misleading... I don't think they actually charge $15 to use your own exchange server (I believe its just for verizon's hosted servers). AT&T has the same $15 fee for corporate accounts, which no one actually pays.

instead of being "pretty sure," why don't you google it instead of talking about something you don't know?
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?

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Like give us your old iPhone and we will pay for your AT&T termination fee?

Give me your tired [GSM iPhone], your poor[ly penetrating signals],
Your huddled masses [in select coverage areas] yearning to [roam] free,
The wretched [ETFs] of your teeming shore.
Send these [without in-home cellular coverage], tempest-tost to me,
I lift my [iPhone CDMA as a beacon of light, can you hear me now!]”
And no, I doubt they will. That seems like a huge expense with little to no benefit at this point. Meaning, I would expect there are plenty of Verizon users, as well as those that simply won’t or can’t use AT&T that will strip the Phone CDMA supplies for awhile. Since US contracts are typically 2 years and the iPhone 5 will come out this Summer I would expect supplies to be constrained for awhile.
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?

We're waiting for FIOS. I hope it will come within the next few months. Whatever I do, I will wait for the next iPhone in late summer. I'm also wondering about what a deal will be. They do offer them, but I don't know if they will grandfather your service into a new contract with the iPhone, or if we HAVE to get it all at once.

I would also like to see a family plan, because with AT&T at least, it's much cheaper all around with one with three phones.
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Thus was hoping for something a little more agressive from Verizon. The details might cause me to switch.

What details? Well how about FaceTime support over the cell link. If tethering is supported as a pay as you go, when you need it, feature that would be nice two. There are other considerations but the key is will it be as cheap as AT$T.

By the way AT&T has been very good for me so Verizon needs a really have a strong offering to get me to switch.

Ive seen Apple replace devices with failing batteries long after they were out of the standard warranty. No harm in giving it a shot since a faulty battery could mean a defective battery which could mean a potential fire hazard.
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And no, I doubt they will.

I guess, but I remember that in New York if you switched to FiOS (with a contract) and didn't like it Optimum would pay your early termination fee to come back.
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...carriers would pay your termination fee to get you to their plan. IIRC Verizon was one of these creatures. We may be in a different world now.
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Let's just hope that this is all wrong and there will be some price/service competition if this actually does happen.

To be honest, I'd be tempted to end up going with AT&T for the fact it is gsm and can perform simultaneous voice & data even though I hate how much a wortwhile offering would cost. I have the same service (without an iPhone) on T-Mobile USA for $93 *AFTER* taxes and fees (which amounts to ~$14 of that total).

It looks like I may be better off keeping t-mobile, buying a current gen ipod touch & tether. BOOH on both AT&T & Verizon.

This sort of thing is just one of the reasons why I think our gov't needs to come in and break them up (for the second time for AT&T).
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Originally Posted by crisss1205 View Post

Are they seriously going to charge for using Exchange? Deff not switching to Verizon now.

Ha! What a bargain
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

How about without data, hmm? I have zero use for it.

Get a Verizon gophone sim card and pop it in the VZ iphone

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If Verizon keeps unlimited data for the iPhone -and- AT&T disallows the continuation of unlimited data when you sign a new iPhone contract Id have to consider switching, even if it meant losing simultaneous voice and data, and losing the speed of HS*PA. Outside of that I have no use for Verizon.

You'd give up simultaneous data and voice for 2GB+ data? How much data do you actually use? Remember even with ATT, you can go over 2 GB - you get 4GB for $50. I found that only one month did I go over even 1 GB of data use, and that was a month when I used my iphone sim card to create a MyWi network on my JB old iphone because I was stuck in a hotel without wifi and needed internet. Even including that 5GB+ month, I still averaged less than 1.5 GB per month this year.
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I wonder if there will be 'special' offers to entice AT&T customers and / or special offers for existing FiOS clients?

I'm sure if you walk into a Verizon company store with your ATT bill showing an average of $125+ per month paid, they'll happily buy you out of your contract.
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How about without data, hmm? I have zero use for it.

How about without voice?
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Get a Verizon gophone sim card and pop it in the VZ iphone


The only SIM cards on Verizon are those in their unreleased LTE phones and released LTE modems, so they'd only be expected to handle non-"GoPhone" systems.

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How about without voice?

How about serious answers? \

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The only SIM cards on Verizon are those in their unreleased LTE phones and released LTE modems, so they'd only be expected to handle non-"GoPhone" systems.



How about serious answers? \

OK... you could move to another country?

What you're asking for isn't going to happen. Is that a serious enough answer for you? Or are you waiting for an answer of "yes" no matter how false it is?
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Don't forget they also charge $2.99 for visual voicemail.

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Are they seriously going to charge for using Exchange? Deff not switching to Verizon now.

is something Apple will not allow. Maybe its one of the main reasons it took Verizon so long to get the iPhone.
Obviously ether Apple or AT&T broke up their contract - maybe after they canceled their unlimited plan for the iPad. And it took an awful lot of time to give the iPhone to Verizon.

Edit: Also you won't see a VCast App on the standard home screen or a Verizon Branding.
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Obviously, those iPhones should include (beside CDMA) also "GSM" capability to allow for connectivity almost anywhere else in the world.

I even expect future iPhones, sold by AT&T, to include CDMA, if only to keep the product line simple (CDMA capability in one or two additional countries may not be the main consideration).
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I never thought using voice and data would be a big deal for me but it actually is for me. Unless Verizon offers that, I'm sticking with AT&T. And besides, I still have unlimited data in my plan.
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You'd give up simultaneous data and voice for 2GB+ data? How much data do you actually use? Remember even with ATT, you can go over 2 GB - you get 4GB for $50. I found that only one month did I go over even 1 GB of data use, and that was a month when I used my iphone sim card to create a MyWi network on my JB old iphone because I was stuck in a hotel without wifi and needed internet. Even including that 5GB+ month, I still averaged less than 1.5 GB per month this year.

40GB to 100GB month.
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OK... you could move to another country?

What you're asking for isn't going to happen. Is that a serious enough answer for you? Or are you waiting for an answer of "yes" no matter how false it is?

Yep. Obviously if we just lie down and take it, it won't happen. The iPhone 2G doesn't require data; why should I have to have it for anything else?

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So, when will we see the first Verizon iPhone get jail-broken to work on the Sprint CDMA Network?
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Yep. Obviously if we just lie down and take it, it won't happen. The iPhone 2G doesn't require data; why should I have to have it for anything else?

Jesus Christ! Its not your fraking product. They have a right to sell it how they wish providing they arent breaking any laws. You either agree it, dont agree to it and find a way around it (which has been brought to your attention), or you move on. There are no other options so stop feeling damn entitled.
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Don't forget they also charge $2.99 for visual voicemail.

I would consider this a substantial change for the Verizon iPhone and a significant concession on Apple's part. Are there any other iPhone carriers who do not support Visual Voicemail as a standard feature of the iPhpne service plan?
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So, when will we see the first Verizon iPhone get jail-broken to work on the Sprint CDMA Network?

Chances are NO, its not GSM so its not that easy. Sometimes Sprint doesn't like to activate unlocked phones.
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40GB to 100GB month.

How do you use that much data on 3G? What apps? And how has ATT not put a stop to it? Frankly, as a fellow ATT user, I wish they would. You're taking far more than your fair share and the rest of us are paying for it with higher prices.
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Yep. Obviously if we just lie down and take it, it won't happen. The iPhone 2G doesn't require data; why should I have to have it for anything else?

Posting on a message board isn't furthering your goal, if you're hoping to change something. You're pissing into the wind.
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