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The new Verizon-bound CDMA iPhone showed off at a press event on Tuesday also sports a new build of iOS, with version 4.2.5 featuring a built-in "Personal Hotspot" feature.

It remains unknown whether iOS 4.2.5 is exclusive to the CDMA Verizon iPhone, or if Apple will issue an update in the future to bring the Wi-Fi hotspot functionality to current iPhones on other carriers like AT&T. Verizon also did not announce pricing details for the tethering functionality.

The new Personal Hotspot feature is found in the native Settings application on the iPhone, sandwiched in between settings for Wi-Fi and Notifications.

Selecting Personal Hotspot allows users to turn the feature on and share their iPhone's 3G Internet connection via Wi-Fi. It notes that "additional usage charges may apply."

Users can also set a custom password for their local Wi-Fi network. Verizon said the iPhone will be able to share its Internet connection with up to five devices.

Personal Hotspot also works with Bluetooth, noting that computers can pair with the iPhone via the short-range wireless format to access the 3G Internet connection. Bluetooth connectivity with some devices has been possible in previous versions of iOS, though it is not compatible with the iPad.

Apple's CDMA iPhone runs iOS 4.2.5 with a built in Hotspot setting | Source: ArsTechnica

AT&T customers and others around the globe have had access to tethering on the iPhone for some time, though previously it was only available over USB or Bluetooth. AT&T charges customers $20 per month to allow tethering, while Verizon has not yet announced pricing details.

Aside from the Personal Hotspot feature, no new functions or fixes were immediately spotted in the CDMA iPhones demoed at Tuesday's press event. The hardware does include a new internal CDMA radio, as well as a tweaked antenna and frame design that leaked online earlier this month.
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Will this come to the rest of the GSM iPhones?
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The new Personal Hotspot feature is found in the native Settings application on the iPone, sandwiched in between settings for Wi-Fi and Notifications.

Looks like they've given it a new name as well as a new iOS.
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they'll probably charge 20 bucks to enable this...in which case I won't bother with it, and most people won't.
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From the video on Engadget it seems like the stainless steel antenna band around it was extra shiny like it had a thick clear-coat layer over it maybe to prevent the grip of death.

Also didn't anyone try to put the VZW iPhone 4 into service mode to check out possible techy info?
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Does this mean that 4.2.2, 4.2.3, and 4.2.4 are all coming out in the next month?
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Will this come to the rest of the GSM iPhones?

Carrier dependent probably..
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Personal WiFi hotspot is really just a more convenient tethering option (my iPhone 4 already allows tethering through Bluetooth or USB connection), so I hope this makes it to all iPhones.

Rogers does not charge extra for tethering, so I don't see a reason this should not be made available for everyone.

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they'll probably charge 20 bucks to enable this...in which case I won't bother with it, and most people won't.

It'll be free with a bit of a hack, in which case I will enable it if it works on GSM phones.

But I have no interest in verizon, or CDMA iPhones. With other phones, it's easy to swap a battery when you run it down, and get back to talking.

With a GSM iPhone, you can easily swap the SIM to a backup iPhone, or any other GSM phone.

With CDMA? Doubtful. You typically have to call and pay a fee to switch phones - in other words, when the battery dies, you'd better have either another cell phone with its own plan or a land line handy.

And no simultaneous voice and data? Deal killer. If they do a quad-band GSM iPhone, I would probably switch to t-mobile. Otherwise, it's at&t.
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Don't be fooled. The 'Hotspot' being built into the Verizon IPHONE is free, however tethering will probably have a monthly charge. Notice how little detail was given about the pricing plans, extra fees etc at the press conference.
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But I have no interest in verizon, or CDMA iPhones. With other phones, it's easy to swap a battery when you run it down, and get back to talking.

With a GSM iPhone, you can easily swap the SIM to a backup iPhone, or any other GSM phone.

With CDMA? Doubtful. You typically have to call and pay a fee to switch phones - in other words, when the battery dies, you'd better have either another cell phone with its own plan or a land line handy.

Or with any iPhone and even most other phones, you can plug in one of the variety of external backup batteries that cost $10-20 and keep talking for a couple of hours. Rechargeable ones as well as ones that use disposable AA or AAA batteries are available. Assuming you're not near an outlet and can't plug in a charger.
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With CDMA? Doubtful. You typically have to call and pay a fee to switch phones - in other words, when the battery dies, you'd better have either another cell phone with its own plan or a land line handy.

Or just take it to Apple, as they handle that.

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And no simultaneous voice and data? Deal killer. If they do a quad-band GSM iPhone, I would probably switch to t-mobile. Otherwise, it's at&t.

The iPhone 4 is already pentaband.
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other words, when the battery dies, you'd better have either another cell phone with its own plan or a land line handy.

Or you could plug it in to a wall outlet, USB port, car charger, or a portable charger. I have yet to have one of my iPhones completely die and be unusable.
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fra-A-agmentation!

You mean to tell me my device is not up to date!? What is this Android now?!
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AT&T should allow iPhone customers free MiFi access for their iPads and iPod touches...
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Don't be fooled. The 'Hotspot' being built into the Verizon IPHONE is free, however tethering will probably have a monthly charge. Notice how little detail was given about the pricing plans, extra fees etc at the press conference.


Verizon(interview on Engadget) says hotspot sharing with basic wireless data plan(presumed unlimited). Please explain your concern further.
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post #18 of 32
copying android.

google should pull an apple move and sue them for this
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Verizon won't support Facetime on their "superior" CDMA Network.


http://blogs.computerworld.com/17652...od_and_the_bad
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fra-A-agmentation!

Hardly... Same phone, same OS, same user interface,
same technical specifications from a computing standpoint.
(display, processor, io, etc.)
The only difference is the cellular radio and a tweaked antenna for the different freq.)

The mobile hotspot is a feature that will doubtless be offered on apple's gsm handsets.
(No technical reason it can't, and every practical business reason it should)

So hardly fragmentation..... unless it's sarcasm.
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Verizon won't support Facetime on their "superior" CDMA Network.


http://blogs.computerworld.com/17652...od_and_the_bad

Neither will AT&T, so that's a wash.
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I just hope that O2 implements it; since they already offer UBS + BT tethering it wouldnt be surprising, would it? Maybe im just getting my hopes up.
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Or you could plug it in to a wall outlet, USB port, car charger, or a portable charger. I have yet to have one of my iPhones completely die and be unusable.

I can attest to the life, I use my very original iPhone as an iPod now, it was ordered the day they were first launched. It is still working fine.
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Verizon won't support Facetime on their "superior" CDMA Network.


http://blogs.computerworld.com/17652...od_and_the_bad

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Neither will AT&T, so that's a wash.

That was the point. Everyone blamed AT&T (me included) for facetime being limited to wifi. That may still be the case. Could be we see facetime opened up to cellular when this phone is released or it stays wifi only. But it is more difficult to only blame AT&T since Verizon phones won't allow it either.

Personally, I think it was because of AT&T's network that the limitation was imposed, but even it Verizon's could handle it, Apple wouldn't want to have different Facetime capabilities between the two models.

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fra-A-agmentation!

This is a very disturbing trend. All iOS devices should use exactly the same OS.
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This is a very disturbing trend. All iOS devices should use exactly the same OS.

As long as only Apple can make any subtle changes between hardware types what does it matter? Oh, but of course you know that you are just having fun
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Looks like they've given it a new name as well as a new iOS.


This site is always riddled with typos.
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This is a very disturbing trend. All iOS devices should use exactly the same OS.


even the 3G, 3GS and 4 all have different files for the OS install. this time the new OS version has to account for different hardware and network modulation
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copying android.

google should pull an apple move and sue them for this

Why? That's a terrible move and it totally goes against the spirit of what Google stands for.

Not just that...it would be a bad business move. Google gets tons of income from being the default search engine on the iPhone. Why would they want to sue the hand that feeds them?

Don't be evil.

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This is a great feature. I use it a ton on my Nexus One. And when I get a tablet, I won't need a second data plan. Wifi only version will suffice.

Here in Canada, no carrier charges for tethering or hotspot functionality. Rogers tried that...customers revolted and they backed down. Hopefully it works out the same in the US.
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Why? That's a terrible move and it totally goes against the spirit of what Google stands for.

Not just that...it would be a bad business move. Google gets tons of income from being the default search engine on the iPhone. Why would they want to sue the hand that feeds them?

Don't be evil.

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This is a great feature. I use it a ton on my Nexus One. And when I get a tablet, I won't need a second data plan. Wifi only version will suffice.

Here in Canada, no carrier charges for tethering or hotspot functionality. Rogers tried that...customers revolted and they backed down. Hopefully it works out the same in the US.

I was not being serious. Merely suggesting what apple's actions would be if the situation reversed. I bet they will charge for wifi hot spot in most places on iPhone. They charge through the roof on top of your contract for just tethering in Europe.
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I was not being serious. Merely suggesting what apple's actions would be if the situation reversed. I bet they will charge for wifi hot spot in most places on iPhone. They charge through the roof on top of your contract for just tethering in Europe.

Apple doesn't charge for this; the carriers do.
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Apple doesn't charge for this; the carriers do.

Correct, but they don't charge for the same functionality on android phones.
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