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post #1 of 10
1/11/11 at 5:18pm
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Talk about the right wing exploiting tragedy and death...even 9 years later they tried to passed off their xenophobia and racism against Muslims as somehow still being "sensitive" to the 9/11 victims. Of course, this in the months leading up to the midterm elections to stir up the racist base and keep the dialog away from how they had obstructed basically every Democratic attempt to get this country back on track after 8 years of Republican greed, lies, and mismanagement.

Talk about exploiting the worst attack on our soil...if the "Liberals" were really interested in "exploiting this weekend's tragedy" (which we are not), we have 9 years of game film to look over and learn how to turn innocent victims into puppets for political gain.

 

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post #2 of 10
1/11/11 at 6:03pm
Time to log out for a few weeks and give it a rest.
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post #3 of 10
1/12/11 at 7:00am
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Time to log out for a few weeks and give it a rest.

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post #4 of 10
1/12/11 at 7:56am
Seems more like an elaborate ploy to ignore the fact that Loughner was clearly a "truther" aka someone who believes the government was behind 9/11.

There is an awful lot of leftist rhetoric out there that reflects truther beliefs. This post reflects someone who got their talking points to try to quickly spin this away from noting the obvious, that Loughner and the truther left share a common perspective.

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post #5 of 10
1/12/11 at 8:45am
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Seems more like an elaborate ploy to ignore the fact that Loughner was clearly a "truther" aka someone who believes the government was behind 9/11.

There is an awful lot of leftist rhetoric out there that reflects truther beliefs. This post reflects someone who got their talking points to try to quickly spin this away from noting the obvious, that Loughner and the truther left share a common perspective.

That description is taking it a bit far. This thread is obviously written by someone who is very frustrated. Unfortunately, i don't see it as helping any in bringing down the rhetoric level that he claims to hate. Only furthering it due to the caustic nature.

And reading the OP again I see that he has claimed the Liberal tag for himself and so it taking many of the accusations against liberals personally, thus apparently taking many of the jabs at liberals as attacks on himself.

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Talk about exploiting the worst attack on our soil...if the "Liberals" were really interested in "exploiting this weekend's tragedy" (which we are not), we have 9 years of game film to look over and learn how to turn innocent victims into puppets for political gain.
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post #6 of 10
1/12/11 at 2:42pm
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We could not disagree with the President without having our patriotism questioned for almost 8 years. We had to watch conservative campaign ads drape themselves in 9/11 imagery, as if liberals wanted it to happen or something. This conservative rhetoric has been disgusting for a decade now, and I think you'll find many more people just as frustrated as I am with it.

You reap what you sow, conservatives. You've created a culture of division and hatred. Congratulations. Now people are tired of your shit and won't take it anymore.

So again, you claimed 9/11 as yours. Fuck you. It's not yours. Neither is patriotism. Nor morality. Nor fiscal responsibility. You lost the rights to all those adjectives over your decade of shame.

 

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post #7 of 10
1/12/11 at 3:22pm
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post #8 of 10
1/12/11 at 3:49pm
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We could not disagree with the President without having our patriotism questioned for almost 8 years. We had to watch conservative campaign ads drape themselves in 9/11 imagery, as if liberals wanted it to happen or something. This conservative rhetoric has been disgusting for a decade now, and I think you'll find many more people just as frustrated as I am with it.

You reap what you sow, conservatives. You've created a culture of division and hatred. Congratulations. Now people are tired of your shit and won't take it anymore.

So again, you claimed 9/11 as yours. Fuck you. It's not yours. Neither is patriotism. Nor morality. Nor fiscal responsibility. You lost the rights to all those adjectives over your decade of shame.

So that is what happens when someone defends you against unfair criticism. And you ask why I don't come to your defense more often...
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post #9 of 10
1/12/11 at 3:54pm
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So that is what happens when someone defends you against unfair criticism. And you ask why I don't come to your defense more often...

Of course there are exceptions to every rule. I think it's pretty clear I'm generalizing here. It would be ridiculous to think that every single conservative has the same view. However, what I said does accurately depict the overwhelming public conservative culture we've had for a decade.

What is it conservatives like to say about Muslims? If you moderate Muslims really disagree with what the extremists are doing, why don't we hear more from the moderate Muslims?

How is it not fair to turn that same question back on conservatives who spouted it in the first place?

Finally a few are speaking up, 10 long years later. But not enough. Not nearly enough.

 

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post #10 of 10
1/12/11 at 4:38pm
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Of course there are exceptions to every rule. I think it's pretty clear I'm generalizing here. It would be ridiculous to think that every single conservative has the same view. However, what I said does accurately depict the overwhelming public conservative culture we've had for a decade.

What is it conservatives like to say about Muslims? If you moderate Muslims really disagree with what the extremists are doing, why don't we hear more from the moderate Muslims?

How is it not fair to turn that same question back on conservatives who spouted it in the first place?

Finally a few are speaking up, 10 long years later. But not enough. Not nearly enough.

I agree on the question about Muslims in the middle of your statement. It is fair to ask the same question of those who ask that question. And also true, it is fair to accept the answer that you get back from the person as their response and not tell them, "Sorry, too little too late." (This goes for both the people asking the muslims and the people asking the conservatives both in your example.)
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