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The first iOS 4.3 beta this week includes references to a new "Find My Friends" feature tied to MobileMe, as well as two new iPhone and three new iPad models.

Find My Friends

Hidden in the native Settings application of the first iOS 4.3 beta is a reference to a new "Find My Friends" feature, discovered by MacRumors. The strings for Find My Friends are associated with MobileMe, suggesting that the service would be tied to Apple's $99-per-year service.

The name suggests the feature could be similar to existing products like Google Latitude or Loopt. The official Google Latitude application was initially rejected from the iPhone App Store, but Apple eventually approved the software in December.

Apple's interest in a location-sharing service was detailed by AppleInsider in December, in a patent application filing with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Referred to in the documentation as "Friend Locator," the service would use Apple's push notification service to share their location with friends via GPS.

iOS 4.3 beta references new iPhone, iPad models

Also uncovered in the pre-release software are references to new models for the iPhone and iPad, as uncovered by Engadget. The beta features identifiers for two new iPhones and three iPads.

The iPhones are known as "iPhone4,1" and "iPhone4,2," while the just-announced CDMA handset headed to Verizon on Feb. 10 is referred to as "iPhone3,3." The lack of reference to an "iPhone4,3" is also of note.

The code also reveals three new iPads, referred to as "iPad2,1," "iPad2,2," and "iPad2,3." The first-generation iPad is currently available in two variants: a Wi-Fi-only model, and one with an added 3G radio compatible with GSM-based carriers, like AT&T in the U.S.

This week, a Verizon executive let slip that Apple plans to release a new iPad with a CDMA radio built in, to allow the hardware to connect to its network. That new CDMA iPad could represent the third model referenced in the iOS 4.3 beta.
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This week, a Verizon executive let slip that Apple plans to release a new iPad with a CDMA radio built in, to allow the hardware to connect to its network.

Why does AI keep reporting Verizon's announcement as a "slip?" Is there any evidence that suggests that the announcement was inadvertant and that Verizon or Apple did not want this information public?
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Looking forward to iOS4.3, I like the concept of 5 fingered controlling and navigation.
Apple just continues innovating. Can't wait for iPad2, I have bought 3, sent 2 to Russia, and have to fight my kids and wife for the other one.
My 7 year old knows how to use it as well as my iPhone, no manuals, a minute training and she is off and running. Isn't that what good software is about ?
User friendliness, simple and no manual, just explore and quickly learn, however the haters confuse this with what they term a "toy". I feel sorry for them, they are so ignorant and just do not get it and will never be the wiser.
I discovered Apple in 1999, and have never regretted this.
I am constantly in awe-struck of their innovations.
As a computer programmer I appreciate good UI design and robust and well thought out architecture and code, it is obvious to all that Apple are the creme-de-le-creme.
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Hey not fair, I posted first with a change, but was beaten, had to edit my original post.
AI you are BASTARDS lol !
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"Find My Friends" sounds like it can be used by a paranoid spouse to check up on the other one.
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Originally Posted by msuberly View Post

Is there any evidence that suggests that the announcement was inadvertent

A decade and a half of Apple being obscenely secretive on future products isn't enough of a clue for you?
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Originally Posted by AsianBob View Post

"Find My Friends" sounds like it can be used by a paranoid spouse to check up on the other one.

I know you're joking but I use Find My iPhone to locate my wife about once every few months - usually when she's late. The kids will gather around and we'll locate her phone and follow her progress back to the house. Saves an annoying phone call to my wife and distracts the kids from the wait.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

A decade and a half of Apple being obscenely secretive on future products isn't enough of a clue for you?

A clue maybe, but not a fact worthy of publication. We have no idea what negotiations took place or what the result was regarding announcement of a CDMA-compatible iPad.
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Remember a time before cell phones and how you made plans to meet a friend at a particular location and time and somehow you were able to do without relying on ten phone calls (where are you?, you said to call you when I got to main street now you are not answering your phone, OMG). Let's add a track device that will eliminate that desperate call and replaces it with (just track me when I get downtown and we can hook up). All of this "convenience" seems like like a lot more work and less efficient than, "meet you at the corner of main and high street 12 o'clock."

Jealous boyfriends and girlfriends you just got a new tool to broaden your suspicions that your mate "may" be cheating. Have fun.
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I know you're joking but I use Find My iPhone to locate my wife about once every few months - usually when she's late. The kids will gather around and we'll locate her phone and follow her progress back to the house. Saves an annoying phone call to my wife and distracts the kids from the wait.

this is the equivalence of looking through her pockets.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

A decade and a half of Apple being obscenely secretive on future products isn't enough of a clue for you?

Uh no. A CDMA version of the iPad does not really count as a new product that they would necessarily keep secret, and it certainly could be something they agreed to go public with at the same time as the iPhone partnership announcement.
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Shuffling music in 4.3 on the iPhone is completely shagged, it just goes through the tracks in order! anyone else see this?
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this is the equivalence of looking through her pockets.

No. I assume that she is fully aware and approving of the activity. So it's the equivalent of her saying please look in my pocketbook for a tic-tac.
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... however the haters confuse this with what they term a "toy". I feel sorry for them, they are so ignorant and just do not get it and will never be the wiser.
...
As a computer programmer I appreciate good UI design and robust and well thought out architecture and code, it is obvious to all that Apple are the creme-de-le-creme.

Here! Here! -- Well said!
post #15 of 60
The "find my iPhone" feature does not require a paid MobileMe account any more. I assume that this will not either.

I also have tracked my wife on her journey home from late night events. I started it since she has the habit of forgetting to turn the iPhone back on. She appreciates a hot cup of teat that is waiting as she enters the door.
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Uh no. A CDMA version of the iPad does not really count as a new product that they would necessarily keep secret, and it certainly could be something they agreed to go public with at the same time as the iPhone partnership announcement.

Then Verizon or Apple would have told us about the Verizon iPhone in 2008 when negotiations began agan.

It isn't public yet, so your second suggestion isn't valid, either.
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She appreciates a hot cup of teat that is waiting as she enters the door.

Is this a lesbian/bisexual thing?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Then Verizon or Apple would have told us about the Verizon iPhone in 2008 when negotiations began agan.

It isn't public yet, so your second suggestion isn't valid, either.

Are you really trying to make that argument? Seriously?

A) Announce Verizon iPhone in 2008 when negotiations have begun but there are still open technological and business hurdles that could cause delays or perhaps kill the deal.

B) Announce CDMA iPad in 2011, presumably after technical testing and after a business agreement has been reached, and after Verizon has been selling iPads for a few months and has announced a CDMA iPhone.

Yeah, these are real comparable.

And the CDMA iPad is NOT PUBLIC YET? HUH? How do WE know about it since we are not insiders?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Then Verizon or Apple would have told us about the Verizon iPhone in 2008 when negotiations began agan.

That makes no sense. The difference here is the iPhone (and perhaps iPad, we don't know) negotiations are concluded. My point is that if the author of the article has evidence that the announcement was a slip, he should so state. If that is his conclusion based on Apple's years of secrecy or his flip of a coin, he should state that as well.

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It isn't public yet, so your second suggestion isn't valid, either.

It is public now, at least from VZ's perspective.
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I'm hoping that with iPad 2.0 Apple has removed the question of WiFi or 3G.
I hope there is a single model with WiFi+GSM+CDMA+GPS.
The only choice is how many GBs.

I think 6 SKUs is too many.
I don't think Apple would add a separate CDMA model and go to 9 iPad SKUs.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

I'm hoping that with iPad 2.0 Apple has removed the question of WiFi or 3G.
I hope there is a single model with WiFi+GSM+CDMA+GPS.
The only choice is how many GBs.

I think 6 SKUs is too many.
I don't think Apple would add a separate CDMA model and go to 9 iPad SKUs.

There are 3 different new iPad's in iOS 4.3 and the different levels of storage don't count from an OS perspective. Last year we had 2 models in the OS, WIFI and GSM. You can guess what the third will be.
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This feature will be a great addition to the iPhone.

But of course not all will see it that way.

Until of course they really need to find out where their
son or daughter is at. And no I don't mean spying, but
seriously worried about them.

Some people seem to be paranoid about this type of thing.
Sure those will probably be the ones that can't be trusted.
The "I am going out with the guys for a while". Really just
means, "I am trying to hook up with another girl".

Those people will decide not to use this feature. And they
will argue, "I don't want nobody lookong over my shoulder".

We all can decide for ourselves.
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No. I assume that she is fully aware and approving of the activity. So it's the equivalent of her saying please look in my pocketbook for a tic-tac.

Im sure that in her case she is aware. I deal with the public everyday for work and I come across a surprisingly good amount of people that just have the iPhone because it's "the iPhone" they don't know much on how to use it to it's full potential. One person I met had no idea you could email or surf the web with safari. So I'm sure those people's spouse or gf/bf could set there phones up to be tracked. It's a good concept but I'm sure you have to allow yourself to be tracked. But i can see where it could be a total invasion of privacy.

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Is this a lesbian/bisexual thing?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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There are 3 different new iPad's in iOS 4.3 and the different levels of storage don't count from an OS perspective. Last year we had 2 models in the OS, WIFI and GSM. You can guess what the third will be.

What is the difference between iPhone3,1 and iPhone 3,2? Besides storage, I'm not aware of any differences in iPhone models, and I was under the impression that the iPhone 4 was had the ID iPhone3,1.
  • iPhone: iPhone1,1
  • iPhone 3G: iPhone1,2
  • iPhone 3GS: iPhone2,1
  • iPhone 4: iPhone3,1
  • ???: iPhone3,2
  • iPhone 4 Verizon: iPhone3,3

Edit: Or maybe I'm wrong, based on this article at Ars. Perhaps the Verizon iPhone is iPhone3,2 and there's still an iPhone3,3 that hasn't been released (and may never be).
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No. I assume that she is fully aware and approving of the activity. So it's the equivalent of her saying please look in my pocketbook for a tic-tac.

If she's fully aware and approving, I'd suggest looking in my pocket for a banana instead.

Oh wait, you said pocketBOOK. Missed that part.
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The first iOS 4.3 beta this week includes references to a new "Find My Friends" feature



That's just plain creepy. No thanks.
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No one is gonna use the "find my friends" feature, especially if it is tied to mobile me, since very few iPhone users actually have it.

Verizon iPhone being referred to as iPhone 3,3 is pretty weird, I guess it's true that the deal has been in development for two years.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

I'm hoping that with iPad 2.0 Apple has removed the question of WiFi or 3G.
I hope there is a single model with WiFi+GSM+CDMA+GPS.
The only choice is how many GBs.

I think 6 SKUs is too many.
I don't think Apple would add a separate CDMA model and go to 9 iPad SKUs.

I think that 9 versions would be very good for choice and for increasing market share. It is possible that there will only be 1 Wi-Fi model, with lowest amount of storage.
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A clue maybe, but not a fact worthy of publication. We have no idea what negotiations took place or what the result was regarding announcement of a CDMA-compatible iPad.

So if it is not a big deal, why didn't they announce it with the iPhone. Why are we getting this back hall comment. And why no confirmation by Apple via a press release.

Frankly I think the guy either
1. Was misquoted and actually said they were working on getting one but it is not a done deal
2. Slipped something he should not have
3. Is talking out of his hat and it is not being worked on at this time at all

Personally I think an iPad that uses CDMA will happen. But based on previous rumors it wont be a separate lineup. Rather Apple will release an iPad with both radios in it. In another generation or two we might only have the one lineup due to prices being low enough. Kept the bottom rank wifi only for the kiddies etc, but that's all. Not unlike the whole low end last model iPhone thing

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Kept the bottom rank wifi only for the kiddies etc,

With WiFi tethering on most smartphones on most networks, I see the WiFi model becoming the more popular choice for most people. Consumers are not going to want 3, 4, 5 different data plans for different devices.
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I know you're joking but I use Find My iPhone to locate my wife about once every few months - usually when she's late. The kids will gather around and we'll locate her phone and follow her progress back to the house. Saves an annoying phone call to my wife and distracts the kids from the wait.

Do you ask her what she was doing at that seedy hotel on the edge of town when she gets back?
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What is the difference between iPhone3,1 and iPhone 3,2? Besides storage, I'm not aware of any differences in iPhone models, and I was under the impression that the iPhone 4 was had the ID iPhone3,1.
  • iPhone: iPhone1,1
  • iPhone 3G: iPhone1,2
  • iPhone 3GS: iPhone2,1
  • iPhone 4: iPhone3,1
  • ???: iPhone3,2
  • iPhone 4 Verizon: iPhone3,3

Edit: Or maybe I'm wrong, based on this article at Ars. Perhaps the Verizon iPhone is iPhone3,2 and there's still an iPhone3,3 that hasn't been released (and may never be).

iPhone: 2 is logical: 1 GSM, 1 CDMA
iPad: 3 is logical: 1 WiFi-only, one GSM, one CDMA

The third iPhone may be an (experimental) LTE model. Or it may stand for an WiFi-only iPhone (i.e. iPod) which only uses FaceTime and VoIP to make calls).
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Any idea on the release date for the iOS? As well as any possible new iTunes version?

I can only guess late Jan./early Feb.
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In another generation or two we might only have the one lineup due to prices being low enough. Kept the bottom rank wifi only for the kiddies etc, but that's all. Not unlike the whole low end last model iPhone thing

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With WiFi tethering on most smartphones on most networks, I see the WiFi model becoming the more popular choice for most people. Consumers are not going to want 3, 4, 5 different data plans for different devices.

Totally agree with AIaddict. I have no interest in either the hassle or cost of various data plans when WiFi suits my needs 98% of the time. And I'm decades away from being a "kiddie".
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Totally agree with AIaddict. I have no interest in either the hassle or cost of various data plans when WiFi suits my needs 98% of the time. And I'm decades away from being a "kiddie".



Old fart
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Originally Posted by juandl View Post

This feature will be a great addition to the iPhone.

But of course not all will see it that way.

Until of course they really need to find out where their
son or daughter is at. And no I don't mean spying, but
seriously worried about them.

Some people seem to be paranoid about this type of thing.
Sure those will probably be the ones that can't be trusted.
The "I am going out with the guys for a while". Really just
means, "I am trying to hook up with another girl".

Those people will decide not to use this feature. And they
will argue, "I don't want nobody lookong over my shoulder".

We all can decide for ourselves.

What a bunch of BS. I have no interest in having my whereabouts tracked by anyone online, and that includes Apple. The carriers have that data because they're required to by law, but that's it. Are there special cases where it might be worthwhile? Sure, alzheimers folks; maybe some kids/teens if they're not perfectly trustworthy, I guess. Probably others as well. But not the general population. As CEOStevie says:

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That's just plain creepy. No thanks.

I feel sad for you and any significant other of yours, if the first thing you think of when people who don't want to be geo-monitored say "I am going out with the guys for a while" is that they really mean "I am trying to hook up with another girl". At the risk of sounding insulting (and I don't know you at all), that sounds like more of a statement about your values and/or the kind of people you hang around.
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Old fart

Thanks!

Then again, "decades" could be as little as 2
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Remember a time before cell phones and how you made plans to meet a friend at a particular location and time and somehow you were able to do without relying on ten phone calls (where are you?, you said to call you when I got to main street now you are not answering your phone, OMG). Let's add a track device that will eliminate that desperate call and replaces it with (just track me when I get downtown and we can hook up). All of this "convenience" seems like like a lot more work and less efficient than, "meet you at the corner of main and high street 12 o'clock."

Jealous boyfriends and girlfriends you just got a new tool to broaden your suspicions that your mate "may" be cheating. Have fun.

In the movie "The Social Network", Zuckerberg's partner got "caught" on Facebook by his girlfriend - he hadn't bothered to remove his "single" reference, which he lamely explained was because he didn't know how to change it - his girlfriend went ballistic, and tried to burn down his apartment. (my friend at Facebook says Zuckerberg verified this story).

You don't need GPS friend finder technology to get yourself into trouble, what with the prevalence of Facebook.
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"Find My Friends" sounds like it can be used by a paranoid spouse to check up on the other one.

Leave the phone at a trusted location and with call forwarding turned on. They won't suspect a thing.
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That's just plain creepy. No thanks.

But for a parent trying to keep in contact with a couple kids running around a mall or amusement part, it can be a Godsend. It makes it far easier to coordinate when you can figure they are around the corner rather than going through the whole shebang of playing 20+ questions of where are you.
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