I say that with no intent to cause you excitement rather it is a reflection of your posting style. Your style is very much that of a sheep that has been trained to respond to the sheppards dog. Clearly you are not thinking objectively here.
Originally Posted by thesmoth
I'm not an android fanboy, i've just used a good android phone with 2.2 and find it to be better than iOS in many ways (although the market place is garbage compared to the app store, which obviously is a huge deal and makes iOS much better for multimedia). And I know that most people on these forums are apple fan boys.
I don't consider myself to be an Apple fan boy at all. In fact I bought my MBP in early 2008 and my iPhone a few months after that. Given that I can't help to classify you either as a Fanboi or a troll, I really don't know which one in this case.
However it is clear you can't evaluate what Android is. That is basically a platform for google advertising. The OS has many issues and as a platform is terrible to program for.
I'm trying to give you guys an 'outside' opinion from what 99% of the posts on this forum are (i.e. apple fanboys who are so busy nut-hugging steve jobs that they would pie a big turd if it had an apple logo stamped on it).
If that where the case you would be relating facts that we could use to evaluate Android. You have failed so far to show us in anyway how Android is better. Frankly that is extremely difficult as Android isn't all that great of a platform.
You can't deny that the CES videos of the playbook and honeycomb blows away the ipad in every single way.
With Android that is very easy to do because there is nothing about Android Honeycomb that makes it significantly better than iOS.
Playbook I see as an entirely different story but they have gone nuts with the hardware. Playbook needs sane hardware for a portable. Beyound that they needs a native SDK if they expect to attrack serious developers. I do see Playbook as having the ability to become major competition for iPad but I'm not sure RIM can pull it off. Further in it's initial release it won't be the competition that Apple needs.
My point is that apple fanboys (forum members here) will buy the iPad regardless of whether the specs are great or bad, or there is a big or small iOS update. Honeycomb tablets could come out that blow away the iPad in EVERY sense, and you guys would still look down on it and praise the pants off of apple.
I don't think you are giving any one here any credit for being objective. In any event you speak in terms of could which is the same as comparing vapor ware to shipping product. In any event in order for Apple to be blown away there needs to be shipping product. Android has nothing in the way of viable shipping hardware or software. Even when it does ship Android will still be a mess as far as the software goes.
I'm giving you a more realistic viewpoint from other people who are NOT apple fanboys, and who are interested in the best product for the money.
A view point yes. However that is a position with nothing to back it up. Come up with some hardware specs that are actually impressive and likely to ship. More so show us an Android ecosystem that isn't crap. Since this is impossible right now I suspect you are either trolling or ignorant about what you are talking about.
Now I KNOW that there are tons of people who aren't fanboys, that will buy the iPad because it's trendy and who don't know the difference between ram, rom, gpu, cpu, etc... These would be most all people, so really what i'm talking about are the techies and nerds, and even people who are typically anti-apple.
I don't even own an iPad yet because it is obviously a very gen one Apple product. However as a tablet and system I can already tell Apple is the only way to go if you want to buy a tablet. Personally this generation hardware isn't up to snuff for me.
However it doesn't take much effort to see that Android is a horrible mess right now and that Playbook has a very long way to go to realize it's potential.
These people may buy an iPad 2 regardless of their previous dislike, or preference for android, if apple really steps up their game and puts up some awesome stats. I will buy one without hesitation if apple does this. On these forums most of these discussions are pointless in the end, because all of these fanboys are going to buy it regardless. They are just having fun discussing rumours and specs, and hoping for the best. There ARE other people who aren't like this and will actually consider other options and not just buy apple because it's apple.
Isn't that the whole point of rumor sites? That is to speculate on what coming hardware will be like.
I also think you are wrong about people buying Apple hardware by default. I actually think an under 7" device would be far better for my needs than iPads almost ten inch screen size. However there is nothing on the market right now that even comes close to fulfilling my needs in that format. Zip, nada, nothing.
You really go out on a limb here categorizing everybody as a Fanboi. There are many here of course but that is to be expected. My interest in iPad though comes from the fact that there is nothing comparable on the market. If you look at the entire ecosystem I think you will see this as true.