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Originally Posted by HahaHaha321 View Post

Surprisingly, it's only the arrogant nature of this website

How ironic.

Is www.appleinsider.com the only internet site your browser can access?
Is somebody coercing you into visiting appleinsider.com?

No?

Then it's arrogant of you to visit appleinsider only to start complaining about it.

Obviously you enjoy this website as you keep visiting again and again, if it were so bad you'd simply keep away.
post #42 of 68
I have to admit, my first reaction to seeing the headline on the main page was that it seemed a little...off. Perhaps in poor taste? I wasn't sure at first, but after reading the comments on it as well as the original source, I do believe that there is a legitimate Apple story in this situation. I just don't think that a recovering shooting victim using an iPad is that story.

The AppleInsider article title hints at this: "Gabrielle Giffords's recovery noted in terms of iPad use." The article, however, is a quick recap of the Reuters story with a quote from John Gruber thrown in. It misses what I think is legitimate analysis from an Apple news perspective, and that is: Why did Reuters run with this headline: "Giffords standing up and using iPad"

This entire event is a tragedy. Looking at the Reuters article, it's clear that Mrs. Giffords has made great progress, but is still in relatively poor condition. Indeed, It's not even clear how much she is aware of what's going on around her. During the news conference today, the doctor did reference her use of an iPad as a sign that her cognition is improving, a very promising indicator. I was very glad to read it. However, Reuter's choice of headline wording seems to trivialize it by bringing an element of pop culture into a situation where it does not apply. Would it matter if she were using a Galaxy Tab? No! But by doing what they did, an the headline takes on the flavor of some perverse kind of product placement. Reading the full quote from John Gruber, he seems taken aback as well: "Sounds like an Onion headline, but it’s true. Unbelievable."

I don't fault AppleInsider for running the article, but I do fault Reuters for trivializing it in the manner that they did. Am I over-analyzing this? I'm sure I am, but it's just my $0.02
post #43 of 68
Yay Gabby! Can't wait until she walks back into Congress.
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Originally Posted by AppleZilla View Post

Yay Gabby! Can't wait until she walks back into Congress.

Yeah no kidding. She's gonna win re-elections from here till eternity if she proves to Arizona that she can beat this. I want to see her succeed.

I love the iPad, and if I were in the hospital and unable to speak this would be the device I'd want to have handy. It is an amazing piece of technology.
post #45 of 68
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Originally Posted by AppleZilla View Post

Yay Gabby! Can't wait until she walks back into Congress.

To do what, exactly?

Increasingly, it seems like such a wasted branch of the US government.

I think that someone like her is too good for that place.
post #46 of 68
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

To do what, exactly?

Increasingly, it seems like such a wasted branch of the US government.

I think that someone like her is too good for that place.

All the more reason for her to be there, don't you think? She's clearly an exceptional person, and one of the good ones. Public service could use more people like her.
post #47 of 68
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I love the iPad, and if I were in the hospital and unable to speak this would be the device I'd want to have handy. It is an amazing piece of technology.

Honestly, I would think it would be much easier for her to first use a keyboard.

But I am happy to see that she is making progress and that her use of an iPad (or any device, really) means that she is cognitive.
post #48 of 68
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Yay Gabby! Can't wait until she walks back into Congress.

...with a quad-resolution iPad 2 under her arm! That will be an awesome day!

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post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by tomlawler View Post

You go, Gabby. We r rooting for you!

No you aren't, only android users Kiwi's and Aussies can do that.

Reporting on Gifford's recovery in terms of a product endorsement is crass and tasteless. AI is regurgitating someone else's verbal puke.

It doesn't surprise me that the Apple piranha are attacking anyone who is questioning the propriety of this, they lost the ability for rational and critical thought where Apple is concerned in 2007.
post #50 of 68
1. My initial thought was that the headline was poorly worded. The angle with which the topic was approached could have been more tasteful. It belongs here as a shining example of assistive technology, but not as a plug that takes advantage of Ms. Giffords' injury. It's a fine line to cross.

2. The joke isn't bad. It's in poor taste, but I've read and heard far worse things uttered by people through various mediums on the Internet for years now. It's also ok for us to be offended...like a YouTube video that has been out in the wild recently stated, nothing happens to you when you're offended. We'll get over it.
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Surprisingly, it's only the arrogant nature of this website and the fanboys who contribute to it that gets under my skin this much.

How stupid are you if you can't figure out that you are going to find fanboys at an Apple fansite? If it bothers you so much .... why do you stay? .... do you really think you're going to "change their mind" and they're suddenly going to think like you .... think again, silly person.
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post #52 of 68
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I don't fault AppleInsider for running the article, but I do fault Reuters for trivializing it in the manner that they did. Am I over-analyzing this? I'm sure I am, but it's just my $0.02

I agree. AI noticing how the iPad has already become a pop culture touchstone is not nearly as odd as the fact that regular news sources keep trumpeting the iPad angle of this story... I'm not sure why the iPad has to be mentioned (3 times!) at the intro of the 11:00 news in NYC except for the fact that anything Apple increases public interest right now.

Actually it would be odd if AI didn't pick ip on this. Remember, less than a year ago the iPad was being derided as under-powered toy not running a full OS--just a big iPod--with a name that would keep half the population from even considering it (he he "pad!" he he)...
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post #53 of 68
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post #54 of 68
This is great news for Palin. If Gifford is able to navigate the iPad in her condition imagine what someone with innate mental retardation like Sarah can do.
post #55 of 68
My father in law was in the SICU all of December after suffering a broken neck, and was first able to communicate with a iPad. Swelling and paralysis made it impossible to hold a writing instrument. But the vent, trach, wired jaw, paralysis, halo, etc didn't matter, because all he needed was one finger to trace words.

www.coachfred.info

http://articles.philly.com/2010-12-2...-rower-regatta


of course, he could use the laminated communication cards that the SICU provided, but these are very generic, and even the homemade ones we made required him to be able to see well enough to read. It is unbelievable, unless you have been there, how much communication of any sort improved the morale of both the patient and their family in traumatic care.
post #56 of 68
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Originally Posted by HahaHaha321 View Post

Surprisingly, it's only the arrogant nature of this website and the fanboys who contribute to it that gets under my skin this much. I can't help but [attempt] to knock some common sense into the mix. Kind of like my position of not taking a simple remark about an iPad to turn it into a tasteless Apple plug. Especially in a tragedy like this. Apparently some people can't help it.

When your IQ matches mine then I will gladly listen to you.
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Originally Posted by iLiver View Post

Exactly- this has to be the most ridiculous AI thread ever posted. BY FAR.

No actually your posts are the most ridiculous.
post #58 of 68
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

One notorious troll chimes in in support of another. And you, having been here for all of four months would know about the "ever" of this place.

I commented on these lines before. One feeds the others.
But I have had a re-think I think iliver, hahahaha, and darharder are the one and the same.
You know how ? Darharder purchased 3 PCs so he could have 3 aliases to torment us.
post #59 of 68
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Originally Posted by ChiA View Post

How ironic.

Is www.appleinsider.com the only internet site your browser can access?
Is somebody coercing you into visiting appleinsider.com?

No?

Then it's arrogant of you to visit appleinsider only to start complaining about it.

Obviously you enjoy this website as you keep visiting again and again, if it were so bad you'd simply keep away.

Its actually not arrogance, its more of a case of mental issues.
Why would someone be so focused and spend lots of time in trolling and annoying people.
Perhaps deep down he/she/it wants to find a friend and be loved.
I say we start treating the trolls nicely and become buddies with them. Agree with everything they say and perhaps we one day may be invited down to their mum's basements for milk and cookies.
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post #60 of 68
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Originally Posted by rosujin View Post

I heard this on NPR while driving to work this morning and wondered if the news would circulate. This is definitely a testament to the ease of use of the iOS.

I wish the congresswoman a speedy recovery and my heart goes out to all the other victims' families.

I listened to the same report on my commute this morning... Reminds me a bit of a story I saw about a child with a muscular disorder who was able to use an iPad, and just about nothing else.

Apple products being ergonomically sound, intuatively easy to use, and focused intensely on the end-user's experience has what may be unintended benefits such as this.
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post #61 of 68
I just saw that she left the hospital this morning.
Her amazing recovery is a small miracle among a larger tragedy.
I like the story that she was able to use an iPad (a nice way to measure her progress) but like several here, I would stress that the story shouldn't be used for the wrong reasons.
post #62 of 68
The true measure of one's cognitive ability is whether they can find their way around a Windows computer. Or one of those new Android tablets. Oh wait, there aren't any!
post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by OldMacGuy View Post

you're right - it's totally inappropriate, and should be deleted.

And you're the only one that quoted it, therefore leaving it here for all to see even after he deleted it. Not very smart.

I'm not so soft-shelled that I'm super-offended by it, but why don't you go back and edit your post. Or perhaps a mod could do that, seeing as that was surely both his and your intent.
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post #64 of 68
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

Dilger just reported what the doctor said, he didn't make it up or embellish it.

I don't mind the article, this is an Apple (fan) news site, after all. But Daniel seems to have gotten progressively worse over the years in severely biasing his articles. I still enjoy the depth of research in many of them, but when you stretch the truth or paint opinion as fact, it gets tiresome.

Small case in point here, unless I'm completely missing something, this sentence bothered me:
just how deeply Apple's less than a year old iPad has infected the media, now serving as a common measure of cognitive function.

Is it really a common measure of cognitive function? Or is it a brand new measure that's at the very most a few months old, but getting a lot of attention today because of a famous person? This is just one small example, but his articles have become littered with stuff like this, and it's sad because he has so much great information to share. Please Daniel, keep writing your articles, but tone it down.
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post #65 of 68
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Originally Posted by Blah64 View Post

I don't mind the article, this is an Apple (fan) news site, after all. But Daniel seems to have gotten progressively worse over the years in severely biasing his articles. I still enjoy the depth of research in many of them, but when you stretch the truth or paint opinion as fact, it gets tiresome.

Small case in point here, unless I'm completely missing something, this sentence bothered me:
just how deeply Apple's less than a year old iPad has infected the media, now serving as a common measure of cognitive function.

Is it really a common measure of cognitive function? Or is it a brand new measure that's at the very most a few months old, but getting a lot of attention today because of a famous person? This is just one small example, but his articles have become littered with stuff like this, and it's sad because he has so much great information to share. Please Daniel, keep writing your articles, but tone it down.

Thanks for gracing this site with thoughtful measured criticism. I may not agree with you entirely but I can respect your point of view.

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post #66 of 68
The doctor reporting that Giffords is scrolling an iPad is informative, not so much, likely to iPad users as other doctors. To those specializing in brain injury traumas, it may indicate that features of the iPad are a useful diagnostic fit. Is it better than previous diagnostic tools?

What most commenters have assumed is that the story is about them and their opinions. It's not. It may be about the usefulness of this particular piece of technology in assessing motor and cognitive recovery of those with brain injuries.

I would like to hear from brain injury specialists who can place this story into a medical context and tell us what technology can do to help them do their jobs.
post #67 of 68
Let's just start fresh and look at this a different way. As far as the iPad is concerned, we should be thankful that one more device has come into use that has real potential to enrich and enhance the lives of persons who have been profoundly disabled. If such devices are out there, it's appropriate to talk about these tools so that so many of our fellows with severe disabilities can broaden their capabilities and surmount their bodies' limitations. If other tablets or other devices become available and offer similar benefits, we should be glad of that, too.

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post #68 of 68
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Originally Posted by Kibitzer View Post

Let's just start fresh and look at this a different way. As far as the iPad is concerned, we should be thankful that one more device has come into use that has real potential to enrich and enhance the lives of persons who have been profoundly disabled. If such devices are out there, it's appropriate to talk about these tools so that so many of our fellows with severe disabilities can broaden their capabilities and surmount their bodies' limitations. If other tablets or other devices become available and offer similar benefits, we should be glad of that, too.

Agreed.

My sister works with people suffering from autism spectrum disorders. She has been using Macs when working with high-functioning clients (like those with Asperger's syndrome) with great success. She just mentioned to me the other day that she wants to look using the iPad since she thinks its more direct interface would be a better fit for clients at a lower-functioning level.
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