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I realize you are trying to be funny and engage in world-play in your past few posts, but it's not resonating.

I’m certainly trying to lighten the thread. I don’t mind if it’s not resonating as funny, so long as you don’t think it’s resonating as bigoted or homophobic.
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Cult of Mac, Mac Daily News, Forbes (not tech, but...), iPod Daily News, Macblogz, but none of the big sites.

Mmm...

Cult of Mac and Mablogz linked to the AI article.

Mac daily news and iPod daily news (same parent) linked to the valleywag article.

So, if this is a smear effort, an "in-your-face" or whatever -- it seams to have had little effect.

This will be my last post, in hopes that the gossip gets the additional attention it deserves.
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I don't think Mstone knows what he means... all one has to ask is, "how sensational is it for one gay man to be with another gay man?". It aint news but for some reason or other Mstone thinks it's news and it will make the stock drop. What Mstone doesn't get is that it doesn't matter unless Cook is caught in bed with a 12 year old (or a farm animal)... that's news because both acts are illegal.

Lover??!! Can Tim not date?! Can he not have a life?!

What fuckin' century is this guy from??!!


Dude, if I may call you that, you are just like all my other gay friends. You are an emotional basket case. You don't even read my posts, you have just assumed that I am anti gay and you've got your panties in a bunch over it. You know, I'm actually on your side. I just think it could hurt the stock, why, because I live in reality. You apparently live in fantasy land.

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Dude, if I may call you that, you are just like all my other gay friends. You are an emotional basket case. You don't even read my posts, you have just assumed that I am anti gay and you've got your panties in a bunch over it. You know, I'm actually on your side. I just think it could hurt the stock, why, because I live in reality. You apparently live in fantasy land.

At least I can read... asshole (which is fitting for this thread).

I called you anti gay?? You really are a nit wit.
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island hermit, cross the line there. Id edit your post. mstone, you went to the line and pushed island hermit over it. Both of you cool it. Dont make me turn this internet around!
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island hermit, cross the line there. Id edit your post. mstone, you went to the line and pushed island hermit over it. Both of you cool it. Dont make me turn this internet around!

I really don't give a shit... honest.
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Dude, if I may call you that, you are just like all my other gay friends. You are an emotional basket case. You don't even read my posts, you have just assumed that I am anti gay and you've got your panties in a bunch over it. You know, I'm actually on your side. I just think it could hurt the stock, why, because I live in reality. You apparently live in fantasy land.

Hurt the stock? Great! Buy low, sell high, after the hysteria* recedes.

Folks, it's 2011. People who want to profit off of Apple couldn't give a rat's ass if Cook is gay or black or Martian. He makes them lots and lots of money!

This is almost as big as the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. This is a milestone in gay acceptance.

And those guys here protesting the loudest about how "offensive" this story is? Closet cases.

They're not upset that Cook was outed (although, like most single 50-somethings, hardly a surprise). No, they're upset that they could be outed next. They're upset at how easily people can figure out if you're gay or not, even if you don't declare it out loud. Sends fear into their hearts. That's why they're so animated.

Me? I'm out and proud.

This is good news for gays, good news for America. Good news for human rights.




*--that's a joke of course. Ther is no hysteria. It's gossip, but nothing major will come out of it.
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Im certainly trying to lighten the thread. I dont mind if its not resonating as funny, so long as you dont think its resonating as bigoted or homophobic.

I think it's funny, got no problem with some humor at this stage.... What is ironic is the google ad I just saw at the bottom of the page. It was for e-harmony "Meet gay men in your area" - coincidence?? lmao
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He's gay? That's interesting.

Wait, no it isn't.
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island hermit, cross the line there. I’d edit your post. mstone, you went to the line and pushed island hermit over it. Both of you cool it. Don’t make me turn this internet around!

You are kidding right? Clearly he has the emotional fortitude of a little puppy. My rebuke of his outbursts are really about as kid gloves as I get. I understand if someone is gay, this is an emotional issue for them, but I'm not gay so it is all about what makes sense from a logical point of view.

I'm not anti gay, anti Cook or anti Apple. All I emphasized was that it would be better in my opinion for Cook to acknowledge his sexual preference being either gay, straight or whatever and get it out in the open to remove any negative effect on the stock market. If people have a problem with that philosophy then they probably have other more urgent issues that they need to attend to rather than arguing in a forum and calling other people vulgar names. I'm not the one losing my cool here. Far from it in my opinion. I actually like gay people very much, as long as they are rational. In this case IH is not.

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You are kidding right? Clearly he has the emotional fortitude of a little puppy. My rebuke of his outbursts are really about as kid gloves as I get. I understand if someone is gay, this is an emotional issue for them, but I'm not gay so it is all about what makes sense from a logical point of view.

I'm not anti gay, anti Cook or anti Apple. All I emphasized was that it would be better in my opinion for Cook to acknowledge his sexual preference being either gay, straight or whatever and get it out in the open to remove any negative effect on the stock market. If people have a problem with that philosophy then they probably have other more urgent issues that they need to attend to rather than arguing in a forum and calling other people vulgar names. I'm not the one losing my cool here. Far from it in my opinion. I actually like gay people very much, as long as they are rational. In this case IH is not.

Perfectly understandable. Straight people tend to be insufferable pricks, as long as they keep that in check I have no problem with them.
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insufferable pricks,

Good one. Glad we understand one another. I have always thought you were one of the more rational posters on this forum. Usually your comments are well reasoned and carefully worded. I apologize if any of mine have offended you.

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Good one. Glad we understand one another. I have always thought you were one of the more rational posters on this forum. Usually your comments are well reasoned and carefully worded. I apologize if any of mine have offended you.

Not at all. But honestly, living in the Bay Area I have known, been friends with and worked with a lot of gay folk, and I haven't noticed them being more or less dramatic or emotional or brooding or whatever than my straight friends and acquaintances.

YMMV, of course, but I'm reminded of the gay guy I knew in high school that was as dark and broody as they come. That was in Alabama. I met him again after he'd moved to Palo Alto, and he was happy as a clam. It you see what I mean.
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Im certainly trying to lighten the thread. I dont mind if its not resonating as funny, so long as you dont think its resonating as bigoted or homophobic.

I didn't think so at all. No worries.

It's just that I find the hundreds of posts and the tone of many of them on what I think is a fairly innocuous story somewhat odd for this day and age.
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IOW, Cook did not blow jobs from his CEO chair.

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and I haven't noticed them being more or less dramatic or emotional or brooding or whatever than my straight friends and acquaintances.

Yeah there is not much difference between straights and gays in the bay area

Just kidding - hugs from socal

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They are "outing" the guy. Not cool. Not even close to cool.

+1 from me. Not cool.
post #298 of 333
300 posts with many angry debates and no one employed Godwin's law. Silver lining?
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post #299 of 333
Are the rest of the powerful men in Silicon Valley not happy?
Their last quarter reports weren't as good as Apple's so I guess not.
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If and/or when Tim becomes CEO will the fanboys become fagboys?
Tasteless joke I know, but I couldn't help it.
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If and/or when Tim becomes CEO will the fanboys become fagboys?
Tasteless joke I know, but I couldn't help it.

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Gossip is not based on facts but speculation. If Cook is not in fact gay, I would imagine he would consider this gossip as negative. All reports of his being gay have been pure speculation. Please show me one source where he himself says he is gay. Whether he is or isn't is irrelevant but you continue to spread the gossip with your remark even though you can't provide any verification where Cook himself said he was gay.

Take a chill pill, friend. I beat you to the punch at critiquing my comment with one of my own critiques here. Hard as it is for me to believe, even I don't get it right all the time.
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I agree. I've always loved Daniel's articles, but this is his worst piece ever. What the hell was he thinking?
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I realize you are trying to be funny and engage in world-play in your past few posts, but it's not resonating.

I liked it... When I get married to my partner (female/ male/ cat) I want my wedding cake to be a dualcore CPU and two of us as the cores... How ultra geeky!

Only thing is by the time it happens everything will be 64 core 10ghz ARMs
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Whenever I hear about some prominent heterosexual "involved" with a member of the "opposite sex" I get a little queasy considering their choice to take a "lover" and involve themselves in a "tryst."

I recently watched an episode of "Jersey Shore", and I have to say I resent having the heterosexual lifestyle (which frankly appears to be kind of a horrorshow, although I'm sure the PC crowd will get on my case for saying so) pushed in my face. I think its fine what heterosexuals do in the privacy of their own (poorly decorated) bedrooms, or sweaty sex clubs, or "that part of town", just don't go around making a big deal out of it.

LOL trust me heterosexuality as depicted in the media is nothing like real life. Kinda like homosexuality too. IOW sexuality as depicted in mainstream media is usually nonsense.
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Well I'm a gay man, and no, I'm not offended by the headline, but yes, it is a silly story... Of course Tim Cook is gay. who cares? and furthermore, did anyone really not know that already?

I didn't know; never even thought about it before. But now that I know, it gives me more appreciation for Apple as a company, which obviously was the point of the article. We're all Apple fans, so why not point out an example of Apple being more progressive or diverse than other similar companies?

I'll never understand the "this isn't news, why did you post this" backlash that comes with so many of AppleInsider's stories. If you're not interested, why do you read the article, and then write a comment? When I see things that don't interest me (probably 90% of the AI headlines, and a higher percentage at general news sites) I just move to the next one. It doesn't offend me that not every article is tailor-made for my interests.
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Dear AI, just in what way is this any different than gossip from dlisted.com? Cook is arguably the most skilled operations guy in the business, and reporting on how he worked to turn Apple around would have been fine and well. But seriously, gossiping about his private life? Shame on you.

It's with a heavy heart I remove both Apple Insider and Roughly Drafted Magazine from my RSS feed. I used a be a huge fan of DED and his old articles charting the history of computer platforms and their relevance in today's tech world (yup, been going to his site for six years). Then he got into all those ad hominem attacks against other bloggers and analysts. I didn't care much at the time as most of his articles were informative and amusing. DED used to point the finger at bloggers for "regurgitating silly rumors" and now he's doing the very same thing. With his refusal to admit to ever being wrong in several articles, the nasty tone of voice against others who have been wrong and now this gossip piece about an executive's rumored sexual preferences I've just had enough.
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Not only is this article's focus on Tim Cook's sexual orientation irrelevant to Apple news but it's also poorly written. I had to read certain sentences numerous times to extract what Dilger is trying to communicate in poorly punctuated sentences, such as

"Unlike Jobs, Cook is not seen to be a product visionary nor a "compelling public speaker," tasks Apple's management team has delegated to design chief Jonathan Ive and marketing chief Phil Schiller, respectively."

Come on AI.
post #309 of 333
Donating money only after you've been "misdiagnosed". Nice.

These are the same people who donate and "give back" only during the festive holiday seasons, not throughout the whole year. Self interests > others.

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post #310 of 333
Skipping through the 8 pages of this thread is a lot like looking at "the evolution of man" backward.
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Why is this article still up? I am offended. Take it down!!
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Skipping through the 8 pages of this thread is a lot like looking at "the evolution of man" backward.

HAHAHA!!! Nice.
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Donating money only after you've been "misdiagnosed". Nice.

These are the same people who donate and "give back" only during the festive holiday seasons, not throughout the whole year. Self interests > others.

That's a little harsh and judgmental. There are a gazillion worthy causes to which one can donate time and/or money. Some of those causes hit closer to home than others. It's totally reasonable that Tim Cook would donate money to MS research after his scare. It's very likely that he supports other causes as well--or maybe he doesn't; we don't know.

As to the "Self interests > others" comment, I say, "DUH!!" That's not inherently bad, it's inherently human. It's noble and good to transcend that and think of others' needs in addition to one's own.

I, for one, celebrate generosity/charity regardless of its amount or motivation.
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BTW- Cook is thought of as just a competent businessman - hardy the most powerful anything.
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You are kidding right? Clearly he has the emotional fortitude of a little puppy. My rebuke of his outbursts are really about as kid gloves as I get. I understand if someone is gay, this is an emotional issue for them, but I'm not gay so it is all about what makes sense from a logical point of view.

I'm not anti gay, anti Cook or anti Apple. All I emphasized was that it would be better in my opinion for Cook to acknowledge his sexual preference being either gay, straight or whatever and get it out in the open to remove any negative effect on the stock market. If people have a problem with that philosophy then they probably have other more urgent issues that they need to attend to rather than arguing in a forum and calling other people vulgar names. I'm not the one losing my cool here. Far from it in my opinion. I actually like gay people very much, as long as they are rational. In this case IH is not.

Back from a weekend trip, so I know the thread is almost stale.

I want to say, I understand your position and I do appreciate having people who are indifferent to someones orientation.

And i apologize if I was too quick to join the attack. As I said. I often have a lot of respect for your posts.

I do want to point out that it sounded to me like there was a lot of latent attitudes in in your posts. Kind of how. My parents will say theyre not racist and point out their black friends and such. But some remnants will still show through, and they'll still use potentially charged words like "colored person" or something. or a better example may be someone who claims to support feminism but will still characterize their wife with a volatile word like "hysterical"

Words like lover, tryst, and characterizing gay friends as emotional basket cases may be accurate, but they run the risk of being loaded terms. Even though it wasn't in the message you were sending, it turned up in the way the message was received. I do wish there were more people with the general attitude of yours...that orientation shouldnt matter to the job the person does...but I think there are still some latent attitudes that manifest themselves in your approach and word choice, and honestly, in a conversation so emotionally charged, some people are sensitive to those things. It's not a matter of if that is right or wrong; instead, it's about understanding people, their positions, and their reactions on a deeper level.

Anyway. I hope I wasn't too. I don't know. Arrogant perhaps. Or patronizing. But I wanted you to know why i took issue with some of the things you said. Like I said. I appreciate that you are the type of person who is slow to judge.

Best regards
Chris
post #316 of 333
If they're all gay, does that make them "Homo Genius"?
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Tim is my relative. My mom and him grew up together. While I don't know him and haven't seen him in longer than I can remember, he is a private person and I wouldn't be surprised if AI hears from him or someone representing him about this article. As said above: this is dribble gossip. Who cares?
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^^ Wow. Spam on AI is getting weirder and weirder.
post #319 of 333
Wow....another day...another 'gay' story.

I don't care what people do in their bedrooms but quit forcing on me what a wonderfully, super awesome, and keenly progressive lifestyle being gay is everytime I open a godamn web browser or read a newspaper!

PS. Steve Balmer is into Plushies...
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For you all stating this shouldn't be news, it sure is creating quite a stir. If you don't care for it, move on.
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