I'm not sure what I think about this. It's the oddest article to have come across on AI and seems irrelevant and yet though we are used to pop stars and celebrities and increasingly politicians saying they are gay it's still very rare in the business world.
I'm old enough to remember my teenage years when the only role models I had were Danny La Rue, Larry Grayson and Liberace! Hardly inspiring for a young man trying to work out why I felt different and what that meant. So, if a gay man or woman can see that you can be in Tim Cook's position and be gay then that's a big help to those who have doubts about their own place in the scheme of things.
Having said that, I hate people being 'outed' (unless they are hypocritical gay men or women) and I have never heard of Valleywag though it sounds like some kind of Silicon Valley gossip mag. If he's acknowledged being gay already then that's one thing but I don't know much background.
However, the article has dragged a few interesting response from AI posters the vast majority of which I'm pleased to see are very adult which is encouraging amongst a load of tech geeks
I had to respond to a few:
Originally Posted by Eye
I've been looking for an article:
"Steve Jobs, the most powerful heterosexual man in Silicon Valley"
But... I didn't find it...
Well, obviously you won't find it - everyone is automatically assumed to be heterosexual until proved otherwise. Doh!
Originally Posted by nvidia2008
Seriously though, there needs to be more info on gay people that do other things besides the above to counter that stereotype! I can't stand watching all that next fashion/model/bimbo-superstar crap on TV with all the flamboyant gay men. Imagine if you're gay and you don't have a great haircut (dyed a flamboyant colour), super-snazzy outfits or a tight body... it can be tough.
Spot on and goes to my opening remarks!
Originally Posted by solsun
Well I'm a gay man, and no, I'm not offended by the headline, but yes, it is a silly story... Of course Tim Cook is gay. who cares? and furthermore, did anyone really not know that already?
Well, I had no idea. How would I have known that? I am in the UK admittedly.
Originally Posted by ascii
If sexual orientation was a choice, then I would be worried about hiring him, because someone who would let that be done to them, what else might they do that could harm my company? But to the best of my knowledge the current science has gayness being genetic, so no worries.
An amazingly homophobic comment. " because someone who would let that be done to them, what else might they do that could harm my company?" Let what be done to them? What has this bizarre idea to do with what else they might to do your company? This is very twisted thinking indeed.
Secondly, what the hell has choice to do with anything? The idea that if you choose to love someone of the same sex it's hideous and horrible and wrong but if genetics "made me do it" then it's OK is SO bigoted. The questions for all things humans do should be "Does it cause suffering to another?", "Who is being hurt by this?" (And I don't mean whose morals are upset). If I suddenly chose to enter a relationship with a woman would that be completely wrong because I'm genetically gay? The twisted 'logic' people use to cloak their bigotry never fails to amaze. If you think something is wrong or immoral then say so and then we can discuss it.
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Gay? Who cares?
The real story is that Steve Jobs requires that Tim Cook and Phil Schiller wear colla'd shirts. Only The Anointed One may wear the black turtleneck.
Originally Posted by newbee
... but AI took it upon themselves to talk about an individual without even asking permission from said individual .... at least, afaik.
When was the last time that the media wrote about someone only after they'd asked them if it was OK first?
Originally Posted by Lorre
... personally I feel like a gay CEO should be a total non-issue. However, many people (and countries) don't see it that way. In big parts of the world, homophily is still a very big taboo.
And many of those areas where it's taboo are important growth markets for Apple.
I wonder how this will affect Apple's growth in areas such as China and the Middle East. I really cannot imagine those Saudi oil sheikhs buying $2000 laptops from a company that has a "sinfull" CEO. Maybe they'll even ban Apple products...
This is an interesting point around who you are and how much of yourself you hide. What if Steve Jobs announced last year that he was gay and that the "friend" he'd taken to all those staff parties etc. was in fact his partner? Should he pretend to be someone he's not just so that Apple's share price stays high? Should he in effect say that "Yes, your bigotry in [Apple export Market X] is entirely justifiable and as you you would hate me for being me I'll pretend I'm straight to ensure our company's health and your continued purchases". This is something many music artists and other 'media people' have grappled with. I suppose Elton John is a prime example - he got married and hid everything away for years. His career has not suffered for now being completely out. Of course
Originally Posted by womble2k2
What a horrible article. Yes I applaud Apple for not having any prejudice's against any person's sexuality, but that is how it should be.
A person's sexuality is their personal life and has nothing to do with what they can / cannot achieve in working life.
In some way I agree but you see we are for the most part invisible. Let's say that you are gay and want to be a top footballer. You look to see what other footballers there are who you know are gay. How many do you find. 0. In the world. What is the conclusion? There are NO gay footballers. One, Justin Fashanu is still, 13 years on, the only professional footballer ever to have come out whilst he was still playing. He later committed suicide. Almost every single sports person we know to be gay came out after
they left the sport with Gareth Jones as one of the very few exceptions.Why is this? Although being gay has no effect on whether you are or aren't able to play it could crush your spirit. Sitting in the changing rooms listening to homophobic abuse, hearing it shouted from the terraces at football matches and providing no role models. Imagine how it would feel if you were a straight sportsperson and every single footballer you knew of was gay? How would you feel?