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Apple and News Corp jointly issued invitations to select members of the media on Thursday, courting them a special event next Wednesday to celebrate the launch of the The Daily, a digital newspaper designed specifically for the iPad.

"News Corporation's Chairman & CEO Rupert Murdoch invites you to the launch of: The Daily," reads the invite, one of which was sent to the Loop's Jim Dalrymple. Murdoch will be joined on stage by Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of Internet services, which umbrellas all things iTunes.

The event is scheduled to kick-off at 11:00 am EST, Wednesday, February 2nd at the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum at 1071 Fifth Avenue.

The Daily, which is to be News Corp's experimental push into digital-only publications, was originally scheduled for a Jan. 19 launch, but was postponed at the last minute. Reports suggested that the delays were due to a new subscription feature for iTunes that Apple has been working on.

For his part, Murdoch has publicly confirmed that The Daily will cost $0.99 per week when it launches next month. It's to be the latest addition to News Corp's collection of paid content publications, which last year saw The Times of London and News of the World fall behind paywalls.

At the same time, much of the hype around The Daily is tied to rumors that the publication will usher in a new App Store pay structure for traditional print publications looking to take their content digital: subscriptions. The new format is also expected to be accompanied by technology that will deliver new magazine and newspaper editions to subscribers' iPads automatically.

Thus far, publications experimenting with digital print offerings for the iPad have been forced to make due with Apple's existing pay-per issue approach, which has frustrated their efforts to fully capitalize on the booming tablet market that some industry watchers expect to explode into a 50 million unit business this year.

Consumers have shown a reluctance to pay newsstand premiums for digital copies of magazines on the App Store, such as the $4.99 per-issue charged for the weekly publication The New Yorker. That translates to more than $250 a year to read the magazine on the iPad, well above print subscription rates for a digital product with only a fraction of the overhead to produce.



In addition, in the case of most magazines currently on the App Store, consumers must manually fetch each new issue and purchase it individually rather than have it delivered to their iPads automatically. That similarly doesn't bode well for magazine publishers, who generate the bulk of their revenues off yearly subscriptions rather than impulse buys.

Following the launch of The Daily next month, it's believed that Apple will extend the rumored subscription format to other interested publishers. However, it's believed that the iPad maker has yet to finalize such deals with any other publishing houses outside News Corp.
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This has the potential to be interesting - it remains to be seen if can be done right. Hopefully the recent delays addressed (most) final issues.

BTW: Interesting final paragraph that is? "Developing..." Huh?
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They're launching a news web site, yet the PR person can't spell "transferable"?
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They're launching a news web site, yet the PR person can't spell "transferable"?

Merriam Webster and several other respected dictionaries show this as a correct spelling (although the more common I would agree is the way you spelled it. Interesting thing - the english language is.
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They're launching a news web site, yet the PR person can't spell "transferable"?

It's British English.
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apple needs content, with thier billions they need to buy so they can control CONTENT.
buy newscorp its got content, murdock is getting old needs transition
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apple needs content, with thier billions they need to buy so they can control CONTENT.
buy newscorp its got content, murdock is getting old needs transition

That would be perfection.
post #8 of 57
Propaganda from Rupert 'I only became an American to control your media' Murdoch?

Pass.
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At least Apple is doing all the R&D work on the subscription model. When the kinks are all worked out, let Android and Windows 7 mobile hit the copy button.
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Propaganda from Rupert 'I only became an American to control your media' Murdoch?

Pass.

Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple
post #11 of 57
There are some interesting possibilities here:

1) coming out for subscription content/app services

2) coming out for the Raleigh Server Farm

3) coming out for Eddy Cue
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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

Mmmm...

Where will you go?
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I wouldn't buy anything produced by Murdoch. He is the worst kind of media mogul. He uses his newspapers and television stations to influence national elections then tries to use that influence to strong arm our elected politicians into giving him what he wants. Here in the UK his newspapers like The Sun slavishly follow his editorial line regardless of the facts or the truth. Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism. Our elected dimwits are too scared to take him on so it's up to the rest of us. I wouldn't soil my beautiful iPad with this piece of crap.
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It's British English.

...or possibly an Australian variant.

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I wouldn't buy anything produced by Murdoch. He is the worst kind of media mogul. He uses his newspapers and television stations to influence national elections then tries to use that influence to strong arm our elected politicians into giving him what he wants. Here in the UK his newspapers like The Sun slavishly follow his editorial line regardless of the facts or the truth. Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism. Our elected dimwits are too scared to take him on so it's up to the rest of us. I wouldn't soil my beautiful iPad with this piece of crap.

I would call him the rightful heir to the Throne of Yellow Journalism first established by William Randolph Hearst.

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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

Are there any left-wing cellular providers I can choose? Those right-wing ones like AT&T and Verizon are horrible how they make profits and then spend money upgrading their networks to new technologies like 4G.

One with a free 4G data plan and unlimited minutes paid for by someone else would be nice. And an iPhone with a bumper case made from hemp too.
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Originally Posted by acerbas View Post

Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

Your forgot to stamp your little feet.
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I wouldn't buy anything produced by Murdoch. He is the worst kind of media mogul. He uses his newspapers and television stations to influence national elections then tries to use that influence to strong arm our elected politicians into giving him what he wants. Here in the UK his newspapers like The Sun slavishly follow his editorial line regardless of the facts or the truth. Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism. Our elected dimwits are too scared to take him on so it's up to the rest of us. I wouldn't soil my beautiful iPad with this piece of crap.

This is nothing new...

Read about William Randolph Hearst -- or watch the movie Citizen Kane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst

Or read the writings of Adela Rogers St. Johns -- who worked for Hearst for 40 years.
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Things the iPad/iOS needs:

-Subscription system for newspapers and magazines
-Better notification system
-Better homescreen to be notified of emails, calendar events, texts (iPhone), etc.

Yea I hate News Corp but perhaps the iPad will finally have a decent subscription/automatic download system. I just wonder, if iPads come out in April and iPhones come out in June, how will the devices and iOS updates be presented? At one event, or separate events?

Maybe like this:
Late March/Early April: Present iPad 2 and iOS 5
April: Launch iPad 2, release iOS 5 beta
June: Announce "iPhone 5", release iOS 5.0 for iPhone and iPad
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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

I guess that leaves Windows (Microsoft and any one of their hardware venders) or open source Linux with another PC manufacturer with pristine environmental and fair labor records. Please let us know which one that is when you find out, okay?
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Things the iPad/iOS needs:

-Subscription system for newspapers and magazines
-Better notification system
-Better homescreen to be notified of emails, calendar events, texts (iPhone), etc.

Yea I hate News Corp but perhaps the iPad will finally have a decent subscription/automatic download system. I just wonder, if iPads come out in April and iPhones come out in June, how will the devices and iOS updates be presented? At one event, or separate events?

Maybe like this:
Late March/Early April: Present iPad 2 and iOS 5
April: Launch iPad 2, release iOS 5 beta
June: Announce "iPhone 5", release iOS 5.0 for iPhone and iPad

Separate as always. June is WWDC.
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Originally Posted by NOFEER View Post

apple needs content, with thier billions they need to buy so they can control CONTENT.
buy newscorp its got content, murdock is getting old needs transition

I have hoped for a while that Apple would make a push into content development to see what it can do when it controls the levers of production and distribution of original content:

* Commissioning a name director to develop a 12-episode series that would distribute exclusively to iTunes/Apple TV customers before it goes to other platforms.

* Buying a medium-sized newspaper, shutting down the presses, and radically overhauling the paper into an electronic-only local news and advertising venture.

* Buying a magazine group like Conde Nast and putting a lot of app development and marketing muscle behind brands like the New Yorker, GQ and Vogue that have developed pretty limited/terrible iPhone/iPad apps on their own.

I'd also like to see Apple buy a small cable company or local cable franchise and completely overhaul the set-top box and UI as Apple TV.

Once Apple made some inroads and built new business plans in these markets, they could buy/launch more titles or license the technology and patents to other media companies.

Call me an Apple utopian, but having seen what Apple could do with an MP3 player and a mobile phone, I think there are a lot of other media outlets Apple could apply the same overhaul to.
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I'm not looking forward to The Daily, I am however looking forward to the subscription feature to be added. Then the publishers can start offering cheaper subscription for their iPad contents. I just can't pay $4.99 per issue.
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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

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Propaganda from Rupert 'I only became an American to control your media' Murdoch?

Pass.

I am another everything-Apple user, who will pass. I don't give a shit if Jobso himself has a weekly column, I'm not putting a penny in Murdoch's pocket. That being said, I'm buying the next iPad, just won't be subscribing to "The Daily".
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I'm not looking forward to The Daily, I am however looking forward to the subscription feature to be added. Then the publishers can start offering cheaper subscription for their iPad contents. I just can't pay $4.99 per issue.

If you will be able to subscribe to written content...

Shouldn't you be able to subscribe to:

-- Music content
-- Video/Movie content
-- Artistic content

-- App and Games
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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

Don't let the door hit cha where the good Lord split cha!
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Originally Posted by Porchland View Post

I have hoped for a while that Apple would make a push into content development to see what it can do when it controls the levers of production and distribution of original content:

* Commissioning a name director to develop a 12-episode series that would distribute exclusively to iTunes/Apple TV customers before it goes to other platforms.

* Buying a medium-sized newspaper, shutting down the presses, and radically overhauling the paper into an electronic-only local news and advertising venture.

* Buying a magazine group like Conde Nast and putting a lot of app development and marketing muscle behind brands like the New Yorker, GQ and Vogue that have developed pretty limited/terrible iPhone/iPad apps on their own.

I'd also like to see Apple buy a small cable company or local cable franchise and completely overhaul the set-top box and UI as Apple TV.

Once Apple made some inroads and built new business plans in these markets, they could buy/launch more titles or license the technology and patents to other media companies.

Call me an Apple utopian, but having seen what Apple could do with an MP3 player and a mobile phone, I think there are a lot of other media outlets Apple could apply the same overhaul to.

I don't see any of this happening -- it would not be good for Apple to compete directly against content providers or content delivery providers.

The indirect relationship between Apple and Disney is about as close as they want to get.

Besides... none of these things will meet Apple's profit objectives.
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post #28 of 57
murdoch's news of the world -- now there's a role model for ethics. let's hope he has better people on his staff for this publication. otherwise the app will just be a back door into your ipad so that they can collect data for their sensational stories.
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I wouldn't buy anything produced by Murdoch. He is the worst kind of media mogul. He uses his newspapers and television stations to influence national elections then tries to use that influence to strong arm our elected politicians into giving him what he wants. Here in the UK his newspapers like The Sun slavishly follow his editorial line regardless of the facts or the truth. Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism. Our elected dimwits are too scared to take him on so it's up to the rest of us. I wouldn't soil my beautiful iPad with this piece of crap.



Honestly, you'd make a great Jihadi, one who won't tolerate alternative viewpoints.

You have the freedom to not buy or not to read the Sun, and the right to send letters to the Guardian or the Mirror or the BBC and hundreds of others of outlets denouncing it. Hey, why not start up your own newspaper?

Re:Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism.
Agreed, and is there anyone on the planet who disagrees with this, including the presenters at Fox? Fox news is an embarrassment to news reporting, even though it's a 'news' program, it is more of an infotainment program than the Daily show, a comedy program, which effectively lampoons it regularly. This is all general knowledge.

No one is stopping so called left-wing outlets from developing their own app for the iPad. The Guardian have just released a great new app with fabulous subscription price. I haven't heard of anyone who reads the Sunday Times foaming at the mouth about that.
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Paid digital content is a tough one - One example that comes to mind is the free USA Today News/Magazine product that I enjoy. Nice native iPad layout - New stories several times each day - Very well done in my opinion and there are many others like this as well . . . Who will want to pay $52 per year for The Daily with so many other interesting and free choices?
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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by Porchland View Post

I have hoped for a while that Apple would make a push into content development to see what it can do when it controls the levers of production and distribution of original content:

* Commissioning a name director to develop a 12-episode series that would distribute exclusively to iTunes/Apple TV customers before it goes to other platforms.

* Buying a medium-sized newspaper, shutting down the presses, and radically overhauling the paper into an electronic-only local news and advertising venture.

* Buying a magazine group like Conde Nast and putting a lot of app development and marketing muscle behind brands like the New Yorker, GQ and Vogue that have developed pretty limited/terrible iPhone/iPad apps on their own.

I'd also like to see Apple buy a small cable company or local cable franchise and completely overhaul the set-top box and UI as Apple TV.

Once Apple made some inroads and built new business plans in these markets, they could buy/launch more titles or license the technology and patents to other media companies.

Call me an Apple utopian, but having seen what Apple could do with an MP3 player and a mobile phone, I think there are a lot of other media outlets Apple could apply the same overhaul to.

Apple created a legal alternative to downloads. They did it well and changed an industry but you'd be hard pushed to prove they changed music. No-one at Apple picked up her guitar and wrote a better song than anyone, afaik. Apple will never get into news gathering, political editorial or the like.

The Daily is just showing the way. There is already the Huffington Post, the Guardian etc with excellent content. The fact that Apple leads the way to technically transition News Content distribution to a digital format in no way reflects on Apple politically. If the Daily is a success others will follow. For me, that will be a more interesting story. I am curious if this becomes a successful business model how it will impact on aggregators like Google News.
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

If you will be able to subscribe to written content...

Shouldn't you be able to subscribe to:

-- Music content
-- Video/Movie content
-- Artistic content

-- App and Games

Well those too I'm sure but the one that I was really looking to doing more often on an iPad was magazines.

I think it's safe to say that the subscription feature won't be limited to written contents. I'm sure Apple will use that feature for their own (rumored) cloud-based iTunes music subscription.
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Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

I wouldn't go as far as abandoning Apple. I just won't invest a dime in the Murdoch rag.

Hopefully real news agencies will learn from this and release their own periodicals.
post #34 of 57
Let me know when Thomson-Reuters has something similar. Until then, I'll pass on anything related to News Corp.
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** edited due to excess whining, ranting, and wasting tinfoil for his hat. **

*yawn*

I hope you don't have a job that involves working at a company, where somewhere in the links does business with someone, that has has a friend, who bumped into someone on the subway, that bought a hotdog from a street vendor that read an article from News Corp.

Hmm... do you know Kevin Bacon??? \
post #36 of 57
Your article states that publishers are frustrated that they can only sell one issue at a time for $4.99 because some restriction imposed by Apple.

However, I have been subscribing to many magazines through Zionio. Each issue automatically comes to my iPad.
post #37 of 57
Too bad big S aligned himself with the wrinkled fascist.
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Originally Posted by acerbas View Post

Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

By golly! You're absolutely correct!

Apple should have never chosen "right-wing" providers such as AT&T or Verizon. I mean, how much more "evil" can Apple become? Just the other day, I had to walk over 2 miles to the nearest Apple store in my Birkenstocks and when I finally arrived, I found out to my horror that the Apple store was located on the right side of the street! The exact location and placement of the store was no coincidence I tell you. No way in hell was I going to enter that right-wing store! I angrily put on my Mao cap and proceeded to walk right back home with only a quick stopover at Starbucks where I bought a 7 dollar Latte Espresso.

I hear that Kim Jong Il runs a pretty trendy "left-wing" cell phone service. That will probably be right up your alley and you might want to consider checking them out. If you hurry and sign up within the next 60 days, you'll receive a special edition iPhone that comes pre-packaged with free Che Guevara stickers and a 10"x18" poster commemorating the over 100 million people killed by leftwingers in the 20th century.

As for me, I'll definitely be checking out the Daily app. Hopefully it will become a welcome breath of fresh air, compared to the left-wing fascist Govt slant and propaganda being carried by much of the mainstream media. It's not just about the content of the App, it's about the technology and the new delivery method for this content.

And yes, some things are probably more important than new technology, left-wing paranoia is not among those things. Apple and Macs are used by everybody, regardless of their political ideology, get used to it.
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Originally Posted by acerbas View Post

Agree. I've been an Apple user since the 2c, and me and my family have owned at least 25 Macs, plus lots of other Apple product, but I think its time for us to split the blanket. I wouldn't buy an iPhone because they picked the most right wing provider, AT&T, and now are adding the second most right wing provider, Verizon. Now Jobs is affiliating with NewsCorp, of Faux News of O'Reilly and Beck infamy, and he donated heavily to carpetbagger Rahm Emmanuel of "f*****g retards" notoriety. Plus we have the new expose on the deplorable health conditions in Apple's Chinese sweatshops. Apple apparently has become the new Evil Empire. Some things are more important than cool technology. So long, Apple

So long, "Acerbic."

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Originally Posted by AppleZilla View Post

Propaganda from Rupert 'I only became an American to control your media' Murdoch?

Pass.

Nice. You didn't change a word from your yesterday post on the topic. Guess that cut and paste thing is a real boon.

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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

I wouldn't buy anything produced by Murdoch. He is the worst kind of media mogul. He uses his newspapers and television stations to influence national elections then tries to use that influence to strong arm our elected politicians into giving him what he wants. Here in the UK his newspapers like The Sun slavishly follow his editorial line regardless of the facts or the truth. Fox News is a disgrace to impartial journalism. Our elected dimwits are too scared to take him on so it's up to the rest of us. I wouldn't soil my beautiful iPad with this piece of crap.

Using newspapers and TV stations to influence elections?!? My god, this has certainly never happened before! Certainly the New York Times and MSNBC would never stoop this low. Quick, call the FCC! This must not stand!!!

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Are there any left-wing cellular providers I can choose? Those right-wing ones like AT&T and Verizon are horrible how they make profits and then spend money upgrading their networks to new technologies like 4G.

One with a free 4G data plan and unlimited minutes paid for by someone else would be nice. And an iPhone with a bumper case made from hemp too.

Actually, to be "fair and balanced," there is at least one cellco that plays the "social responsibility" card: It's called Credo No iPhones, but a few Droids for all you guilt-ridden types (and mostly not even the "fancy ones" so no need to feel over-privileged). A good liberal friend of mine had it - uses, I think, the Sprint towers, but, alas, true believer that she is, even she was still eventually sucked into the evil side of the force by a shiny, squeaky iPhone.

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OK, so I get the "liberal equals totalitarian death camp" thing, since it's an idea pumped out 24/7 by the likes of (ironically) Fox News et al. It's deeply ahistorical and suggests willful stupidity, but I get it. It's useful for rallying the troops and rendering every discussion into an apocalyptic war of good against evil, which I guess is a prerequisite for the rightwing mind to orient itself in a rapidly changing world.

But "7 dollar Latte Espresso" from Starbucks? I mean, yeah, it gets used a lot as shorthand for "simpering elitist", but why? There has to be a Starbucks in pretty much every city, town and hamlet of over a couple of thousand people in America, at this point, and they can't all be sustained by a cadre of marxist/fascist/socialist/freedom haters, can they?

The thing is, Starbucks is as mainstream as McDonalds, and even as we speak millions of right thinking rightwing square jawed patriots are right there in line to get their Frappucinos and decaf Lattes. Surely there's something more obviously America hating than Starbucks that ya'll could use? Like, I dunno, Mac use? Wait, that includes Limbaugh. White wine! Nobody drinks white wine but straight up Nazis!
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