Originally Posted by DocNo42
I think you are discounting an important aspect of the A4 - what's more important is all the stuff the A4 doesn't
have. By jettisoning the stuff Apple doesn't use vs general purpose everything- and-the-kitchen-sink designs like hummingbird Apple gets smaller and more power effecient chips.
Funny how that 'theory' doesn't pan out in the real world. The Samsung S8500 Wave, which has a Hummingbird processor, gets better battery life results in GSM-Arena tests than the iPhone 4.
Also as Sol' pointed out, the iOS devices are more than just their hardware specs. Apples tight integration with their software allows them to get better performance.
Without a performance metric that can actually be tested in the real world, such genaralised waffle is meaningless. It's reminiscent of the days when Apple and their fans used to declare Macs running on Power PC chips outperformed PC's running on Intel chips and that clock speeds and benchmarks were meaningless. Those claims were lies, as history has proven. The Power PC couldn't deliver and when Apple switched to Inel chips, the performance of Macs rocketed. I remember clearly the hardware/software synergy Apple could deliver, being touted as a superiority - decades ago. It just wasn't, apart from a marketing tool and as a salve for the egos of Mac users, myself being one of them.
Apple's raison d'être is profit, not performance.
Apple do better software and they are absolute masters at leveraging that advantage to reduce HW costs and maximise profit margins. A classic example of that would be the iPad. The biggest differnce between the A4 SoC in the iPad and the Hummingbird was the deletion of 250 Mb of Ram
Apple didn't tell Samsung to leave out the RAM to boost performance and 'user experience' they did it for their best performing product, the Mac Scrooge.
So while other phones may have higher CPU speeds, and from a geek perpective higher is better, in portable electronics higher speed means higher power consumption and more heat - not desirable characteristics for battery life.
Pure bull dust - sorry. The Orion SoC (Hummingbird successor) will blow away anything Samsung or Apple currently make, performance wise. The peak power consumption will be higher, but due to multiple efficiency improvements, the average power consumption will actually be lower - reportedly 30% lower!:
The Cortex-A9 chipsets also should deliver 30% reduction in power consumption, so all the goodies above will come in an even thriftier package that will further enhance battery life on mobile devices.
Also if you remember back to early articles about the A4, in addition to leaving all but the essential stuff out it has extra power management. Apples combination if battery life, small size/weight and aggressive price points aren't an accident.
And such generalised statements aren't proven either.
In mobile devices where every decision has a much more cascading effect on overall performance, the total control Apple has over all of their components allows them to have a significant edge over their competitors. It's pretty obvious now, but with the next generation of hardware I expect this gap to widen even more.
That's bordering on delusional.
'Total control over their components' applies more to Samsung than it does Apple due to them being an actual HW manufacturer of vast scale and comprehensive vertical integration.
By the time the iPad 3 and iPhone 6 hit, if there isn't at least one other company tightly integrating hardware AND software like Apple, no one will be able to catch them.
Samsung are in a better position to do HW/Software synergy and integration than Apple. The S8500 Wave already has Samsung's own Bada operating system on it. It is quite possible that there isn't a single component in the Wave that isn't made by Samsung themselves. Despite Sol's piss poor joke, Bada is actually a very impressive OS. It is Unix based like iOS and C++ apps written for it execute way faster than the equivalents on Android, I understand.