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Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak said in an interview that the white iPhone 4 will ship soon, while also confirming camera issues with do-it-yourself white iPhone 4s modified using leaked Foxconn parts.

Wozniak told Engadget in an interview Sunday that the manufacturing issue with the white iPhone had been fixed and that the handset should be released in the near future.

Last month, Wozniak revealed that he had a white iPhone 4, which he had modified from a black iPhone 4 using a kit ordered from a website. At the time, Wozniak admitted that the kit had a few defects.

During Sunday's interview, Wozniak expounded upon the defects, explaining that photos taken with the modded white iPhone 4 using the flash look as if "taken through cellophane" because of light leaking through the white-painted glass.

AppleInsider reported last week that Apple has partnered with a Japanese company to craft a new paint material that will work for the white iPhone 4. According to the report, the Cupertino, Calif., company struggled with earlier painting methods, which resulted in a "huge" number of defective handsets.

Inventory listings from Best Buy and AT&T suggest that the white iPhone 4 could debut on Feb. 27.

The iPhone maker has announced several delays to the white model of its popular smartphone. In July of last year, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said the white iPhone 4 was on track to ship by the end of the month, only to be contradicted the following week when the company announced that the product would not be available until later that year, a deadline which has, of course, come and gone.
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The iPhone maker has announced several embarrassing delays to the white model of its popular smartphone.

Embarrassing? Embarrassing was when an Apple employee was caught receiving kick backs and leaked product information. This not.

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who needs LTE, NFC, or a partridge in a pear tree?
this year White is the major upgrade!
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IS WOZ GETTING ACCESS TO SENSITIVE COMPANY INFO? WILL HE COME BACK TO APPLE? Someone with real info please enlighten us
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This white iPhone thing is just a snooze to me. Though, I am curious to see if Apple kinda has to introduce more colors in the future...

How many 10's of millions can you sell of something before the market is over-saturated and dull-looking?

I will personally always like black because it suits my style. However, it's always cool seeing bright colors out and about!
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What my wife would really like to know is if Verizon will also get the white iPhone on the 27th or will it just be AT&T.
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I am curious to see if Apple kinda has to introduce more colors in the future...

A white iPhone would make possible hardshell cases in different colors.
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What my wife would really like to know is if Verizon will also get the white iPhone on the 27th or will it just be AT&T.

My guess would be that it is being timed to the Verizon rollout. If this was AT&T only, what would be the point this close to their iPhone 4.5 or 5 or whatever it's going to be.
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If there is a problem with White, why not just come out with a different color. Gray, Sliver, Navy, Blue, whatever. This is silly.
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A white iPhone would make possible hardshell cases in different colors.

Agreed. Since most people have always used cases (I believe that stat is true), cases are the best color-customization method. Keep the manufacturing simple!

But having a white phone to start with is kind of cool too. I originally wanted a white iPhone 4 myself (partly to avoid heat from sunlight on my dash-mount). But in the end I do like the simplicity that all the sensors are hidden on the black version. They show up as clutter on the white versions face. Also, I think the plastic guard around the glass edges looks worse (and probably wears worse over time) on the white version. That plastic is practically unnoticeable on the black version.

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If there is a problem with White, why not just come out with a different color. Gray, Sliver, Navy, Blue, whatever. This is silly.

There is no longer a problem with white, and there is demand.
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Why is this information coming from Woz?
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Embarrassing? Embarrassing was when an Apple employee was caught receiving kick backs and leaked product information. This not.

At last, someone with a sense of perspective.

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Why is this information coming from Woz?

Because Woz is Wise?
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Why is this information coming from Woz?

He's still a large shareholder, is he not?
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During Sunday's interview, Wozniak expounded upon the defects, explaining that photos taken with the modded white iPhone 4 using the flash look as if "taken through cellophane" because of light leaking through the white-painted glass.

It's leaking light because Woz didn't replace the crappy plastic lens that came with the white panel with the high quality part from the original black panel.
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Agreed. Since most people have always used cases (I believe that stat is true), cases are the best color-customization method. Keep the manufacturing simple!

I think the iPhone 4 is an attractive phone. I prefer to keep cases off and I'm certainly not alone. However, I don't think we are enough of a market to justify diversified colors beyond the black and now the white.

That being said, if given a choice of another color to have for my caseless phone I would choose red. Even if attached to the project red campaign with a slight premium I'd likely go with that color over black.
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Apple should've used the Google product approach: Release the defective product anyway, slap a Beta sticker on the outside of the box, then fix it (hopefully) in the revision (or three).

Free user feedback!
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IS WOZ GETTING ACCESS TO SENSITIVE COMPANY INFO? WILL HE COME BACK TO APPLE? Someone with real info please enlighten us

Woz still gets a paycheck from Apple. He's officially a consultant.
He changed his iPhone to white and has probably been told by someone who knows for sure that a real one is around the corner.
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Apple should've used the Google product approach: Release the defective product anyway, slap a Beta sticker on the outside of the box, then fix it (hopefully) in the revision (or three).

Free user feedback!

Apple should have used the iPhone 4 roll out approach: release a defective product, mask the defect by offering everyone a silicone case that "fixes" the problem.

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bring it on!
I'm waiting for the white iP4 since last summer...
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Why is it that no one has mentioned that the previous white phones showed scratches very easily, when compared to the black phone (I owned both a black 3G and a white 3GS), and the white 3GS looked like crap when I sold mine on ebay to upgrade to the iPhone 4. I wonder what the "new" white paint job will look like once the normal wear-and-tear scratches start to show?
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The real lead is, Woz admits to being a counterfeiter.

Why is he still allowed to go out and do interviews without a handler? At this point, Woz has marginalized himself to the point of no return.
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Apple should have used the iPhone 4 roll out approach: release a defective product, mask the defect by offering everyone a silicone case that "fixes" the problem.

Didn't stop you from buying one, evidently.
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Woz NEVER said that. Where do they get their information from. I was at the Engadget show yesterday and he never said that. He said it it imminent because of the recent rumors that he read on Engadget. Even Nilay Patel from Engadget said its not true.

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Woz didn't say the white iPhone was coming soon based on inside info -- he also said he "just reads Engadget." We'll post the show soon

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Didn't stop you from buying one, evidently.

no, but it does stop me from using the phone without a bumper.

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A white iPhone would make possible hardshell cases in different colors.

I'd rather Apple bring back the Black MacBook than bring on a white iPhone4 quickly approaching it's shelf life.
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Flash photos taken with the black iPhone 4 are also fogged. That's been my experience with 2 black iPhone 4s, so I expect the performance is within Apple's specs, even though the pics look pretty bad.
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Why is he still allowed to go out and do interviews without a handler?

Uhh, the First Amendment?
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At this point, Woz has marginalized himself to the point of no return.

Depends on the meaning of "marginalized."

Woz has no managerial skills or ambitions to have any and doesn't need the money. His engineering skills are many generations behind and I doubt he's going back to school (tho' he still enjoys tinkering at the edges).

But he was a key founder of one of the most iconic corps in the country's history, is famous, a pleasant enough guy, talks to people who are still movers and shakers, still a bit of a prankster, and seems to enjoy a little press at times.

I never take anything he says too seriously, but if he shows up on screen in front of me, I'll watch and occasionally smile. And thanks for that first Apple forever, W.

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Flash photos taken with the black iPhone 4 are also fogged. That's been my experience with 2 black iPhone 4s, so I expect the performance is within Apple's specs, even though the pics look pretty bad.

Yeah - my experience also, but I hardly have to use the flash anyway, with the HD pics being so good without it.
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Why is it that no one has mentioned that the previous white phones showed scratches very easily, when compared to the black phone (I owned both a black 3G and a white 3GS), and the white 3GS looked like crap when I sold mine on ebay to upgrade to the iPhone 4. I wonder what the "new" white paint job will look like once the normal wear-and-tear scratches start to show?

Probably because the white iP4 has it's white underneath the glass on the front/back - its not made from white plastic the same as the 3GS ...

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IS WOZ GETTING ACCESS TO SENSITIVE COMPANY INFO? WILL HE COME BACK TO APPLE? Someone with real info please enlighten us

What if with Steve's health issues and all Woz would come back as a consultant of sorts? Possibility?
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Does this mean that the 5g phone is near? Cannot imagine Apple bringing out a white 4g phone at this point...
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no, but it does stop me from using the phone without a bumper.

You might try holding it another way. Think different!!
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I know a number of people that are waiting for the white iPhone, if/when it comes out i think it will do well.
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Does this mean that the 5g phone is near? Cannot imagine Apple bringing out a white 4g phone at this point...

It will be blue; Johnny Ive will declare that white is dead and you will buy it too.
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Any more news about when is the white iPhone 4 coming out?

Thanks
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