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Apple on Wednesday launched a new in-app subscription service on its App Store for the iPhone and iPad, alongside a new daily newspaper for the iPad from News Corporation, dubbed The Daily.

A new "In-App Subscriptions" section was added to the iTunes Terms and Conditions to explain how in-app subscriptions auto-renew, how the auto-renewal can be managed and turned off, and stating to users that Apple may request permission to provide personal information to third parties for marketing purposes. The sharing of information can be declined, which will not affect the purchase.

The subscription feature plays a key part in the new tablet-only newspaper from News Corp., called The Daily. The publication was unveiled Wednesday in New York City by the company's chief executive, Rupert Murdoch, who said the product aims to capture the "serendipity and surprise" that traditional newspapers offer, but in a digital format on the iPad.

"New times demand new journalism," Murdoch said. The publication will cost 99 cents per week, and the first two weeks are free courtesy of Verizon. News Corp. spent $30 million to prepare the publication for Wednesday's launch.

For now, the subscription feature is only available from The Daily, though Apple will make an announcement in the near future about recurring subscriptions for other content providers and application makers.

A live demo of The Daily was conducted, showing off features like 360-degree photographs, interactive content, high definition video, and traditional newspaper staples like horoscopes, weather and crossword puzzles.

The central navigation experience is known as "the carousel," where stories are represented visually on tiles. Users can swipe through pages and sections with their fingertips, shuffle random unread stories, or have stories conveyed in audio and video formats.

Stories can be quickly shared on services like Facebook or Twitter, or sent via e-mail. The application also allows users to record text or audio comments for a story.

The publication also offers an 'Apps and Games' section, complete with reviews of iPad software and links to the App Store. Also demonstrated were the interactive elements of the sports section of The Daily, complete with customizable scores and stats for a reader's favorite teams. Even a team's "tweets" from Twitter can be integrated into a custom sports page.

The publication will be updated every morning, but more frequent updates will be possible throughout the day for breaking news or story updates.

Apple's Eddy Cue, left, with News Corp.'s Rupert Murdoch jointly unveil The Daily Wednesday.

Apple's iTunes chief, Eddy Cue, appeared at Wednesday's event, and noted that more than 200 million news applications have already been downloaded for the iPad. He said The Daily has an "amazing team" of reporters, designers and editors that will make it a premier publication.

"It's incredible to believe that something of this production value can be done every single day," he said.

Cue also talked briefly about the new subscription plans within the App Store. The Daily will run 99 cents per week, or annual subscriptions will cost $39.99.

He was also asked about enforcement of App Store policies regarding content being sold within applications available for download. Cue said Apple wants to ensure that customers can get content "both from our device and our App Store, and from other websites and ways that they get them."

Murdoch said that The Daily will not remain exclusive to the iPad, though he expects Apple's touchscreen tablet to remain the dominant player in the tablet market for some time to come.

"We would expect to be on all major tablets, but we believe last year, this year and maybe next year really belong to Apple," he said. "That's just a market judgment."
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The central navigation experience is known as "the carousel," where stories are represented visually on tiles. Users can swipe through pages and sections with their fingertips, shuffle random unread stories, or have stories conveyed in audio and video formats.

"Fingertips", really AI?

http://www.thedaily.com/
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... A new "In-App Subscriptions" section was added to the iTunes Terms and Conditions to explain ... to users that Apple may request permission to provide personal information to third parties for marketing purposes. The sharing of information can be declined, which will not affect the purchase. ...

This sounds like a solution that ought to make consumers and publishers (unless they are simply determined not to be) happy, and does personal information sharing the way it ought to be done, opt-in and optional. This should become a model that is enacted into law.
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While I wouldn't go near any 'news' produced by Murdoch with a 10 foot pole, the price at least seems to be getting into the 'reasonable' territory... $39/year or .99/week.

Now if a real news organization would follow suit, I'll be interested.
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"Fingertips", really AI?

What's the objection to 'fingertips'?
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What's the objection to 'fingertips'?

We use our fingers, we have used them for a long time.
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We use our fingers, we have used them for a long time.



i cannot remember the last time i used the middle segment or base segment of my finger to work an iphone or ipad.

not sure about you, but i almost exclusively use my fingertips to activate the interface.
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We use our fingers, we have used them for a long time.

Oh my. Quibblemudgeon.
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i cannot remember the last time i used the middle segment or base segment of my finger to work an iphone or ipad.

not sure about you, but i almost exclusively use my fingertips to activate the interface.

You're dealing with semantics. AI used the term 'fingertips' to make the app sound fresh, but technologically it's not. The iPad is great. The term fingertips just sounds like they are trying too hard on this story.
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I wonder what Glenn Beck has to say about this. From his own boss nonetheless.
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You're dealing with semantics. AI used the term 'fingertips' to make the app sound fresh, but technologically it's not. The iPad is great. The term fingertips just sounds like they are trying to hard on this story.

So, you're saying they need to knuckle down on their choice of words?
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You're dealing with semantics. AI used the term 'fingertips' to make the app sound fresh, but technologically it's not. The iPad is great. The term fingertips just sounds like they are trying to hard on this story.

then question the content of the whole article, since none of it is anything new - as noted in the article, there have already been 200 million news app downloads.

fingertips is a perfectly acceptable, and technically correct, descriptor in my view.
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You're dealing with semantics. AI used the term 'fingertips' to make the app sound fresh, but technologically it's not. The iPad is great. The term fingertips just sounds like they are trying to hard on this story.

Thanks for fleshing out your comment. I see your point. It can be viewed as a little chirpy I guess. Still . . . only a venial sin. Let's have them say two Our Fathers and two Hail, Marys and be done with it. Go and sin no more, AI.
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Apple on Wednesday launched a new in-app subscription service on its App Store for the iPhone and iPad, alongside a new daily newspaper for the iPad from News Corporation, dubbed The Daily. ...

Sounds like they are being very smart about this, but then no one ever accused Murdoch of being dumb, just evil.

I still think a buck a week is too much for content that is essentially free elsewhere in slightly different formats. Also, it will probably have advertisements so you'd have to be pretty much a dumbass to buy into this thing.

The good news for Murdoch is that roughly 70% of the public falls into the "dumbass" category.
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You're dealing with semantics. AI used the term 'fingertips' to make the app sound fresh, but technologically it's not. The iPad is great. The term fingertips just sounds like they are trying to hard on this story.

Wrong "to."

It should be "trying too hard" if we are into correcting grammar and language this morning.
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Wrong "to."

It should be "trying too hard" if we are into correcting grammar and language this morning.

. . . or typos.

And now, back to our thread . . .
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Wrong "to."

It should be "trying too hard" if we are into correcting grammar and language this morning.

It's a typo. I wasn't correcting grammar. It was merely pointing out AI's 'desperate' word usage.
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While I wouldn't go near any 'news' produced by Murdoch with a 10 foot pole, the price at least seems to be getting into the 'reasonable' territory... $39/year or .99/week.

Now if a real news organization would follow suit, I'll be interested.

I agree. This would be so much better if a "real" news organization with no bias were behind this like the NY Times, NBC News or MSNBC.........
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Sounds like they are being very smart about this, but then no one ever accused Murdoch of being dumb, just evil.

I still think a buck a week is too much for content that is essentially free elsewhere in slightly different formats. Also, it will probably have advertisements so you'd have to be pretty much a dumbass to buy into this thing.

The good news for Murdoch is that roughly 70% of the public falls into the "dumbass" category.

It will depend on how much content is included, my local paper was $150 per year delivered, if the content is similar in extent, obviously missing local content, it would be worth $52 to me.

www.thedaily.com just started rerunning the news event, if you want to listen in.
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The Daily is available now from the App Store. Downloading now.
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I agree. This would be so much better if a "real" news organization with no bias were behind this like the NY Times, NBC News or MSNBC.........

Your sarcasm is noted, but keep in mind that survey after survey shows that FOX viewers consistently rank as the most misinformed in the world.
FOX is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. That is not up for debate. The question is whether or not the party is actually just the political arm of FOX.

Give up the 'liberal media' meme. Doesn't exist, and you know it. At best its 'corporate media'.
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While I wouldn't go near any 'news' produced by Murdoch with a 10 foot pole, the price at least seems to be getting into the 'reasonable' territory... $39/year or .99/week.

Now if a real news organization would follow suit, I'll be interested.

Although it would be interesting to question what news organizations you consider "real" news, let's put the political bent aside and critique this app for what it really is. A bold new (non legacy) media outlet that takes advantage of modern tech that delivers information via modern, media-rich methods that people like. All at a very attractive price.
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I agree. This would be so much better if a "real" news organization with no bias were behind this like the NY Times, NBC News or MSNBC.........

The last "real" news operation went out of business in the mid 80's (broadcast news & newspapers that is). "News" in the sense of adherence to journalistic ethics/rules hasn't really existed for a long, long time IMO.

It used to be just a standard part of "doing journalism" but market pressures and the conversion of news into entertainment in the 70's and 80's killed it. I don't see it coming back unless the journalists themselves organise through a professional organisation and accredit each other or something, but I see no evidence of that happening anytime soon.
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Sounds like they are being very smart about this, but then no one ever accused Murdoch of being dumb, just evil.

I still think a buck a week is too much for content that is essentially free elsewhere in slightly different formats. Also, it will probably have advertisements so you'd have to be pretty much a dumbass to buy into this thing.

The good news for Murdoch is that roughly 70% of the public falls into the "dumbass" category.

Imsuppose then, that you've never bought a single publication, because they all have advertising, and the information is available somewhere else if you want to spend the time looking for it.

I've subscribed to the NT Times and the WSJ for many years. I also subscribe to the NY Times as an app, and I also subscribe to other news and economic publications in print and as apps. I'm going to give this a try as well.

Possibly you don't value work done by others and are quick to condemn those who do, but I find that to be ostentatious, and rather snobby. I don't consider myself to be a "dumb ass" as apparently you seem to. I'll just put that down as childishness on your part.
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Your sarcasm is noted, but keep in mind that survey after survey shows that FOX viewers consistently rank as the most misinformed in the world.
FOX is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. That is not up for debate. The question is whether or not the party is actually just the political arm of FOX.

Give up the 'liberal media' meme. Doesn't exist, and you know it. At best its 'corporate media'.

lol, you are so diluted. it's almost sad.
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lol, you are so diluted. it's almost sad.

His comments could have been a little more strongly worded, but they weren't exactly watered down.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Profits are profits but isn't this a little like sleeping with the enemy?
The lover of all things Beatles/John Lennon now dancing with the dark side?
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Profits are profits but isn't this a little like sleeping with the enemy?
The lover of all things Beatles/John Lennon now dancing with the dark side?
Weird.

What's weird is that they haven't banned you yet, tekstud.
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His comments could have been a little more strongly worded, but they weren't exactly watered down.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Well done! But see poor iLiver come in right after you, still trying to be part of the problem.

Edit: I see you already saw.
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Your sarcasm is noted, but keep in mind that survey after survey shows that FOX viewers consistently rank as the most misinformed in the world.
FOX is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. That is not up for debate. The question is whether or not the party is actually just the political arm of FOX.

Give up the 'liberal media' meme. Doesn't exist, and you know it. At best its 'corporate media'.

Consistently ranked by whom?

The NY Times, MSNBC, NBC and the AP are all the propaganda arm of the democratic party. That is not up for debate. You are just too misinformed and biased to know it.

The liberal media doesnt exist? Stop watching Bill Maher and reading the Daily Kos....

All liberal media is dying a slow death. Thank god.....
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Happy about the In-App Subscriptions. Will pass on the propaganda from Rupert 'I only became an American to control your media' Murdoch.
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It will depend on how much content is included, my local paper was $150 per year delivered, if the content is similar in extent, obviously missing local content, it would be worth $52 to me.

www.thedaily.com just started rerunning the news event, if you want to listen in.

The annual subscription $39.99 = 77 cents per week and 11 cents per day
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lol, you are so diluted. it's almost sad.

He's watered down? Really?
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..snip....but keep in mind that survey after survey shows that FOX viewers consistently rank as the most misinformed in the world.
...snip

Please provide references/links for any or all surveys you're alluding to.

Also, please define "misinformed" including what subject they are being misinformed on. \

Thanks in advance.
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First impression...

Good, but not as intuitive as I expected.

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His comments could have been a little more strongly worded, but they weren't exactly watered down.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

I think what he meant to do was to make up a new form of the word delusional, not diluted, to sound more intelligent.

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I wonder what Glenn Beck has to say about this. From his own boss nonetheless.

Beck does whatever makes him money, being a scarey boogie man on fox sells gold, being a nut on radio sells gold, guns and preserved food MREs, and at the end of the day Glenn cashes the check.

If Newscorps is more profitable then fox news is better off, then glen beck is better off.

Beck is a business man and an entertainer, no different than John Stewart or Rush Limbaugh.
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Following up on the raging eBook controversy of yesterday...

It seems very likely that Apple and News Corp have negotiated terms other than the standard 30% for in-app purchases. And, most likely, these will become the standard terms for periodical publishers who wish to distribute content to iOS device apps.

It's also obvious that Apple can't allow app publishers to distribute content exclusively outside the app store since this would basically allow them to do an end run around the 30/70 revenue sharing plan they agreed to. (The old, distribute a free app and sell content from your website so you don't have to share any of the revenue ploy.) So, they need to a) crack down on the violators to put an end to this and b) force eBook distributors to negotiate acceptable terms.

In other words, they can't allow business as usual to continue or Sony, Amazon, et al. have no incentive to actually agree to reasonable terms. But, they also can't afford to not be available on iOS devices. So Apple needed to strictly enforce the terms of the developer agreement to bring them to the table. After all, it's not really reasonable that they get a free ride on downloadable content when other developers don't. I expect that it won't be long before there are new terms of service and a new developer agreement that carves out different revenue sharing plans for different kinds of in-app purchased content: periodical subscriptions, books, perhaps some other categories, and everything else which will remain at 30/70.
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Sounds like they are being very smart about this, but then no one ever accused Murdoch of being dumb, just evil.

Plenty of people accused him of being dumb when he predicted that the U.S. invasion of Iraq would cause the price of oil to drop to $20 per barrel.
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I would NOT compare John Stewart to the like of Rush and Beck... totally different animals.
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Beck does whatever makes him money, being a scarey boogie man on fox sells gold, being a nut on radio sells gold, guns and preserved food MREs, and at the end of the day Glenn cashes the check.

If Newscorps is more profitable then fox news is better off, then glen beck is better off.

Beck is a business man and an entertainer, no different than John Stewart or Rush Limbaugh.
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