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Existing Verizon customers can now preorder Apple's CDMA iPhone 4

post #1 of 49
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Both Apple and Verizon began offering existing Verizon customers the ability to preorder the forthcoming CDMA iPhone 4 right on schedule Thursday, with a delivery date of Feb. 10.

In Apple's online store, the AT&T and Verizon models of the iPhone 4 now appear side by side, as customers are invited to "select your iPhone and carrier." Pricing for the handset is identical, with the 16GB model running $199 with a two-year contract, and the highest capacity 32GB model $299.

The previous generation 8GB iPhone 3GS has been pushed down the page as a result. It is still offered for $49 only through AT&T.

Currently, only existing Verizon customers can preorder the iPhone 4, set to launch on Feb. 10. And the carrier expects such great demand, it has even asked its employees to wait to buy the smartphone so that it will be available for regular customers.

Verizon customers will be able to buy a plan with 450 "Anytime Minutes" for $39.99 per month, or 900 minutes for $59.99 per month. The unlimited voice plan is $69.99 per month for an individual.

The two-year contract also requires a data plan, which is $29.99 per month for unlimited access. An additional $20 per month offers the 3G Mobile Hotspot feature, which offers 2GB of capped data for external devices.



Text messaging can be pay-per-use, at 20 cents per text or 30 cents per picture or video. Plans start at 250 messages for $5 per month, 500 messages for $10 per month, or unlimited messaging for $20 per month.

Verizon Wireless Family SharePlans are also available for up to 5 lines, and can be bought through Apple Retail Stores and Verizon Wireless. They offer 700 minutes for $69.99, 1,400 minutes for $89.99, 2,000 minutes for $99.99 and "Nationwide Unlimited" for $119.99.

On Wednesday, Feb., 9, all qualified customers will be able to order an iPhone 4 on Verizon through the Apple online store for delivery, or reserve for in-store pick-up beginning Feb. 10. The Verizon iPhone will be available to all qualified customers at 7 a.m. local time on Thursday, Feb. 10. The new CDMA handset will also be available at more than 2,000 Verizon Wireless Communication Stores across the U.S.
post #2 of 49
Let's see how well Verizon can handle the mayhem.
post #3 of 49
ATT Better at:

Speed
Data and Voice Multitasking
International Coverage
Rollover Minutes
Free Wifi
Battery Life (GSM better than CDMA)

Verizon Better at:

Coverage
Fewer Dropped Calls (esp NY and SF)

So, if you have good AT&T coverage, it's a no brainer. The feature that I use least on my phone is the "phone". Data and speed are much more important.
post #4 of 49
Still no mention if visual voicemail is included or not. Usually it's a 3 dollar monthly charge.
post #5 of 49
From Engadget (via 9 to 5 Mac Link):



Speed Counts....it lacks with Verizon. Once again, Verizon has crippled a great device.
post #6 of 49
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Still no mention if visual voicemail is included or not. Usually it's a 3 dollar monthly charge.

I ordered my iPhone early this morning. Visual Voicemail is included at no extra charge.
post #7 of 49
Interesting note: The iPhone ordering is a distinct process from upgrading to any other phone on Verizon's web site. If you sign into your account and follow the normal routine to upgrade your phone, the iPhone isn't listed. You have to go through one of the big banners to get it.
post #8 of 49
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

From Engadget (via 9 to 5 Mac Link):



Speed Counts....it lacks with Verizon. Once again, Verizon has crippled a great device.

I think you're going to have to perform this test in about 1000 random locations around the country, average the results, and then report your conclusion.

Why are the AT&T ping times so long?
post #9 of 49
Is this the third article in the past week or so by AI that said the same thing?
post #10 of 49
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

ATT Better at:

Speed
Data and Voice Multitasking
International Coverage
Rollover Minutes
Free Wifi
Battery Life (GSM better than CDMA)

Verizon Better at:

Coverage
Fewer Dropped Calls (esp NY and SF)

So, if you have good AT&T coverage, it's a no brainer. The feature that I use least on my phone is the "phone". Data and speed are much more important.

I agree with all of this, but I dont think its fair to use AT&Ts GSM 2G as very few users will have 3G turned off. Im sticky with AT&T for the reasons you mention but Id call it a wash for talk time.

Im actually surprised the Verizon iPhone doesnt have a longer talk time with 3G turned on. Cant wait to see iFixit dissect it. Same exact size battery, larger or smaller?
post #11 of 49
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Originally Posted by EWTHeckman View Post

Interesting note: The iPhone ordering is a distinct process from upgrading to any other phone on Verizon's web site. If you sign into your account and follow the normal routine to upgrade your phone, the iPhone isn't listed. You have to go through one of the big banners to get it.

Also notice how Verizons site separates the iPhone from Smartphones. Is this a psychological thing mandated by Apple for marketing Its not a smartphone, its an iPhone." and/or is it just proof that the iPhone has so much mindshare that separating it from the wannabe competitors makes business sense?
post #12 of 49
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

ATT Better at:

Speed
Data and Voice Multitasking
International Coverage
Rollover Minutes
Free Wifi
Battery Life (GSM better than CDMA)

Verizon Better at:

Coverage
Fewer Dropped Calls (esp NY and SF)

So, if you have good AT&T coverage, it's a no brainer. The feature that I use least on my phone is the "phone". Data and speed are much more important.

Just curious... how is AT&T's iPhone better at international coverage?

edit: Never mind. Found the answer: Apple didn't build additional network capabilities into the CDMA iPhone like other CDMA smartphone makers have. Hmmm.
post #13 of 49
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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

Just curious... how is AT&T's iPhone better at international coverage?

edit: Never mind. Found the answer: Apple didn't build additional network capabilities into the CDMA iPhone like other CDMA smartphone makers have. Hmmm.

Most international providers use GSM, not CDMA.....so you can roam in popular locations (like Europe) with an AT&T iPHone.....not with Verizon.
post #14 of 49
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

So, if you have good AT&T coverage, it's a no brainer.

But if you don't, it's a no brainer too.
post #15 of 49
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/te...h/03pogue.html

Game over. You can all now bow and genuflect to the poster(s) over the last 3 1/2 years who have been banned and called trolls for stating that the most important thing about any gadget with the word "PHONE" in it should be that it not drop calls.
post #16 of 49
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Originally Posted by iLiver View Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/te...h/03pogue.html

Game over. You can all now bow and genuflect to the poster(s) over the last 3 1/2 years who have been banned and called trolls for stating that the most important thing about any gadget with the word "PHONE" in it should be that it not drop calls.

post #17 of 49
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Originally Posted by iLiver View Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/te...h/03pogue.html

Game over. You can all now bow and genuflect to the poster(s) over the last 3 1/2 years who have been banned and called trolls for stating that the most important thing about any gadget with the word "PHONE" in it should be that it not drop calls.

This site banned people for saying the iPhone should also be a phone? That doesn’t seem fair. Was there something else to these bannings, like purposely trying to upset other posters?

It’s one thing to say it’s not the most reliable phone service or say that the iPhone on AT&T doesn’t suit a user’s needs because the phone service isn’t reliable enough, but it’s another to say AT&T can’t ever connect a call.
post #18 of 49
from https://preorder.verizonwireless.com...=ACCOUNTLOOKUP

Sorry, an error has occured.
We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.
(Please try again)

and following link generates:

Safari can’t open the page “http://preorder.verizonwireless.com:443/iconic” because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection. This sometimes occurs when the server is busy. Wait for a few minutes, and then try again.

Same as AT&T (or worse).
post #19 of 49
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Still no mention if visual voicemail is included or not. Usually it's a 3 dollar monthly charge.

As a current VerizonWireless customer who went through the iPhone ordering process this morning, I can confirm that visual voicemail is included at no additional charge.
post #20 of 49
http://www.9to5mac.com/50675/verizon...ers#more-50675

Verizon is already blocking/slowing their already slow data rates.
post #21 of 49
Great news for all you Verizon fans, they have announced that they will begin throttling data speeds for the largest consumers. So much for 'unlimited'.

Also, for everyone they will be performing automatic optimization! They will 'adjust' the sizes and quality of the images and other items.

Article linked below.

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic..._optimization/
post #22 of 49
A lot of $$$ will go to Angry Bird this 10th.
post #23 of 49
I've been trying to order a phone thru Verizons existing customer page for the last 7 hours. Still getting the same error message that a previous poster described.
post #24 of 49
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Originally Posted by DeW View Post

from https://preorder.verizonwireless.com...=ACCOUNTLOOKUP

Sorry, an error has occured.
We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.
(Please try again)

and following link generates:

Safari cant open the page http://preorder.verizonwireless.com:443/iconic because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection. This sometimes occurs when the server is busy. Wait for a few minutes, and then try again.

Same as AT&T (or worse).

Sorry dude but your wrong. I worked the iPhone 4 pre-order and launch at Apple, And this doesn't even come close to that. A little riff here and there doesn't even hold a match to the widespread outage we experienced on the initial pre-order day. Genrally everything has gone good with Verizon pre-order.

Nice try though......
post #25 of 49
Verizon is now compressing our own data...this sucks. When I send a picture to a friend, they will reduce/compress the file....resulting in a substandard image.....LEAVE MY DATA ALONE!


http://www.9to5mac.com/50675/verizon...ers#more-50675
post #26 of 49
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Originally Posted by TechManMike View Post

Sorry dude but your wrong. I worked the iPhone 4 pre-order and launch at Apple, And this doesn't even come close to that. A little riff here and there doesn't even hold a match to the widespread outage we experienced on the initial pre-order day. Genrally everything has gone good with Verizon pre-order.

Nice try though......

little riff here and there?

As far as I understand web ordering is flat down. Did you get yours?
I have nothing against Verizon or AT&T.
It's just that Verizon said they not going to have any problems AT&T had. It was a bold statement.
post #27 of 49
It looks like Verizon is in a hurry to fix web site.
"Try Later" Link on their error page is

http://preorder.verizonwireless.com:443/iconic

You will never connect on port 443 using http protocol. That link will always produce error.
post #28 of 49
I can't even get to it.
post #29 of 49
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post

I can't even get to it.

Really?

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Originally Posted by Marvin

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post #30 of 49
Just got iPhone preordered using Apple web site. Smooth transaction.
Tried all morning through Verizon -- no luck. It may be account related. Always returns error. Friend of mine tried it using his account with no error. Go figure.
post #31 of 49
http://cnettv.cnet.com/ - take a look at this cnet review...results speak for themselves in realtime ... not on paper...

The ordering process is simple easy and works fine!
post #32 of 49
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html

Actual usage test... VZW > ATT for almost all the tests.
post #33 of 49
Its not additional capability. They would literally have to have both GSM and CDMA radios in the same phone.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

Just curious... how is AT&T's iPhone better at international coverage?

edit: Never mind. Found the answer: Apple didn't build additional network capabilities into the CDMA iPhone like other CDMA smartphone makers have. Hmmm.
post #34 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeW View Post

It looks like Verizon is in a hurry to fix web site.
"Try Later" Link on their error page is

http://preorder.verizonwireless.com:443/iconic

You will never connect on port 443 using http protocol. That link will always produce error.

The link above doesn't work, but if I just go to verizonwireless.com to go through the web page it works for me with no problem and no lag. Not sure where that link above is coming from.
post #35 of 49
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Originally Posted by DeW View Post

from https://preorder.verizonwireless.com...=ACCOUNTLOOKUP

Sorry, an error has occured.
We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.
(Please try again)

and following link generates:

Safari can’t open the page “http://preorder.verizonwireless.com:443/iconic” because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection. This sometimes occurs when the server is busy. Wait for a few minutes, and then try again.

Same as AT&T (or worse).

Dont use port 443.
post #36 of 49
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Originally Posted by FurbiesAndBeans View Post

Dont use port 443.

The right answer is to use HTTPS instead. That does not fix BROKEN link, though. It is a manual correction in address bar. AKA workaround.
post #37 of 49
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Originally Posted by FurbiesAndBeans View Post

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html

Actual usage test... VZW > ATT for almost all the tests.

These results don't mean much when you aren't having to share the network with others. Let's go to a known Verizon trouble spot and see how it holds up. Rather than going to a known AT&T trouble spot and seeing how Verizon holds up. Plus, in one video they said the amount of people in the geographic area using he same device matters as to how responsive your service is. They are the only Verizon Iphone in the area right now. Wise up people. Verizon paid them for that commercial.
post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post

These results don't mean much when you aren't having to share the network with others. Let's go to a known Verizon trouble spot and see how it holds up. Rather than going to a known AT&T trouble spot and seeing how Verizon holds up. Plus, in one video they said the amount of people in the geographic area using he same device matters as to how responsive your service is. They are the only Verizon Iphone in the area right now. Wise up people. Verizon paid them for that commercial.

Can you explain to me what is the difference between an iPhone and Android to a network if they both pull data?
post #39 of 49
I ordered my iPhone this morning at 3am for Verizon. In my email confirmation, it says that my iPhone has been FedEx'd over night. I wonder if I will get the phone before the 9th like Apple and Verizon were saying.....has anyone else seen this in their confirmation email?
post #40 of 49
The links from both Apple and VZW do not work for business accounts. ("error, we are trying to fix it...") We called. A VZW rep. said your company needs to contact us. We said, we are the company (we are the Pres. and CEO.) They said, after at least 10 handoffs, sorry, we can't do a preorder for a business account.

Anyone find a workaround to this?
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