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post #201 of 216
2/7/11 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by allmypeople View Post

YEP!

AND

The 16:9 aspect won't work as well. We can even thank Netflix for shedding light on that: they're finding people are streaming to AppleTV more that iPads. I know I'm stretching here but that could show some indication that these companies are betting on the wrong size thinking it'll be a major movie viewer... when it won't.

My parents only used their iPad to watch movies when their LCD TV broke and were waiting for their new one to be delivered.

Is this new Android made for 16:9? Does every company using it have the same size? And who decides that? Google or the tablet manufacturers? Curious if anyone has any insight

Just looking at desktop monitors (well, laptops as well), 16:9 seems to be dominant form factor at present... thought 1280x800 is 16:10, I believe. 16:9 would be more like 1360x768 or 1280x720.

Anyway... my 2 year old HP 6730b laptop had 15.6" 1280x800 screen and it was HP business line laptop. I think it is decent resolution for both work and multimedia. 16:9 video will leave thin black strips above and below screen, or, alternatively, video player will be able to use that extra space for controls without overlapping them on video.
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post #202 of 216
2/7/11 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post

This is FAIL on so many levels. Its like their only goal is to beat the Galaxy Tab on buyers remorse and returns. Arstechnica points out that just a few weeks ago at CES there were no demo units to use, just demos running on units. That doesnt seem like a device that is stable and ready to ship.


PS: Does it at least have an IPS display? I know all the Asus tablets coming out this year do.

Asus tablets are also much more reasonably priced, Transformer floating between $399 and $699 depending on SSD size and (hopefully) keyboard dock being bundled or not. Specs wise Transformer looks pretty much sale as Xoom.

But as with the most non-Apple gadgets, Xoom might be so much more affordable 3 to 6 months down the path
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post #203 of 216
2/7/11 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

There is a certain irony that they copy an Apple ad concept to advertise a copied Apple product. Are there truly no original concepts or innovations coming from anyone but Apple these days? It is amazing.

but they never posted...they never post my comments..

but I basically said, does anyone else see the irony in parodying a commercial from over 25 years ago while producing a product that is a parody of the real thing.
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post #204 of 216
2/7/11 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by Menno View Post

So you're quoting an article that was based on misinformation? You do know that the "16%" return rate was totally FUD right?

And if you read AI's other article's, you'd see that the Xoom is approaching the idea of a tablet differently.

Honeycomb is a totally different take on tablets, and doubly so on android.

Check AppleInsider's article. Do a google search. It is what it is. Accept it.

The eXoom is definitely different. It is a netbook without a keyboard. It has nano battery life time. It is a redesign of a computer nix the keboard. Who wants another lesser version of a lap top? Think about it, Menno. If you are just a troll Apple hater there is no need for further discussion. But if you are honestly keen on the future from whence ever it comes, cool.

I don't particularly want an iPad or any tablet at the moment. I write from my knee. I would find the MacBook Air perfect and it is rumoured it will evolve into a hybrid lap-Pad and run apps. Nice intermediary, don't you think. I write and communicate a lot so a kb is Necessity's child.

But if it is a netbook you want, the Air might be your device. An Android OS is going to take a lot of work before it can run a business day without further recharges.

I like to think I have an open mind but what I have seen from M$ and Google have not been promising. Time will tell and Apple has invented the future time and time again. The iPhone basically invented the smart phone. It is the iPhone being copied, not RiM phones. When M$ or Google does this once, I will be impressed.


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post #205 of 216
2/7/11 at 9:15pm
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Originally Posted by sdbryan View Post

Let's not forget that Motorola designed and manufactured the 68000 CPU that powered the original Macs. So does that make them complicit in some evil mysterious plot that is depicted in the ad?

Apple and Motorola used to go out together. They even had a baby, the Motorola SLVR L7, a feature phone capable of syncing with iTunes. It was, for all intents and purposes, an iPod (with limited storage) + Mobile Phone. It was available from Cingular Wireless, which became AT&T. That was in 2006. The following year, everything changed.

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post #206 of 216
2/7/11 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by bullhead View Post

  1. Copy the Apple iPad
  2. Copy an Apple TV commercial

What else is Motorola copying from Apple? Can no company except for Apple innovate?

Will Motorola be challenged for infringing on the copyright of the Orwell family/Marvin Rosenblum?

You know, like Apple and Chiat/Day got following the adverts public introduction?

Innovation indeed...

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post #207 of 216
2/8/11 at 12:24am
The troll ran away hiding already? Um I guess he is speechless after making up a lot of BS. These immature kids need to stick with engadget and not pollute appleinsider.

I found the ad really dumb and weak. Teenagers' reactions were WTF? Buy xoom to get laid?
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post #208 of 216
2/8/11 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by poke View Post

Those ads didn't mock users. They mocked Windows. Only the tiny minority of people (i.e., MCSEs and Paul Thurrott) whose identity is tied to Windows were offended. Hating Windows and hating your PC has long been a part of popular culture. Those ads were no more mocking than jokes about airplane food are to the millions of people who fly in airplanes.

No those ads mocked windows users, pretty much in the same way that Motorola's ads mocked Apple users. They're built on stereotypes, writ large. I didn't very much care for the Xoom ads and I'm an Android user, I didn't much care for the Apple ads and I'm a Macbook user. I suspect both ads will work in their own way.
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post #209 of 216
2/8/11 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by Steveafb View Post

The troll ran away hiding already?

Probably, Steveafb. Too bad. But a true troll has an agenda and little mind. Small children and pets should be aware.
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post #210 of 216
2/8/11 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by Rigelian View Post

No those ads mocked windows users, pretty much in the same way that Motorola's ads mocked Apple users. They're built on stereotypes, writ large. I didn't very much care for the Xoom ads and I'm an Android user, I didn't much care for the Apple ads and I'm a Macbook user. I suspect both ads will work in their own way.

Well, no. Just saying it doesn't make it so. Whereas the Apple/PC ads explicitly used a guy declaring himself to be a PC, whose woes entirely centered around the perceptions and shortcomings of PCs, and which foibles were presented in a light hearted way that encouraged sympathy for the poor beleaguered PC, the Motorola ad explicitly and only depicts Apple's customers, whose only apparent attribute is docile servitude to their iPods and a penchant for white.

As far as "working in its own way", no doubt, but that may not be the way that Motorola had in mind. The Apple/PC ads sought to highlight the differences between the two platforms in things like ease of use, access to certain apps, customer support, etc. The Motorola ads seeks to.... what, exactly? Highlight the difference being a drone and being free? Based on what? Art direction?

Again, the people running Motorola may be under the impression that Apple's customers and potential customers represent this nascent movement of Apple disgust, but that's a delusion of internet tech punditry. No normal person regards iPod use as a mark of slavery, or imagines that buying a competitor's tablet device is the road to freedom.
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post #211 of 216
2/8/11 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by nikon133 View Post

Just looking at desktop monitors (well, laptops as well), 16:9 seems to be dominant form factor at present... thought 1280x800 is 16:10, I believe. 16:9 would be more like 1360x768 or 1280x720.

Anyway... my 2 year old HP 6730b laptop had 15.6" 1280x800 screen and it was HP business line laptop. I think it is decent resolution for both work and multimedia. 16:9 video will leave thin black strips above and below screen, or, alternatively, video player will be able to use that extra space for controls without overlapping them on video.

It might work for displaying videos, but what about the UI when you rotate the display and what about Apps?

Is an eventual Android app store going to feature applications built with every aspect ratio and pixel dimension in mind, or will there be device specific Apps?

Sounds like an unmanaged mess to me.
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post #212 of 216
2/9/11 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by nikon133 View Post

But as with the most non-Apple gadgets, Xoom might be so much more affordable 3 to 6 months down the path

What seems to be a WiFi only Xoom just appeared at the FCC. Rumor is that it's supposed to be for an April release.
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post #213 of 216
2/10/11 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by addabox View Post

Just saying it doesn't make it so.

quoted for addabox to read his own words.

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post #214 of 216
2/10/11 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by cycomiko View Post

quoted for addabox to read his own words.

Fun. And then I went on to explain exactly what I thought the differences.
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post #215 of 216
2/12/11 at 12:28am
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

Somehow, I doubt iPad users were the target of the ad. The ad speaks to people who identify with a shy, creative types who lust for Sarah Michelle Gellar in a white hoodie. A potentially huge market.

Hey! I'm a [relatively] creative type who really likes SMG. And that hoodie was cute!

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Exactly. Apple stuff is bought by people who want it to buy it. Often, it is worth pointing out, because of another Apple product they already have that has convinced them Apple make great products. It is the opposite of mindlessness.

I used to use Windows, up until about 1995-ish. Then I started using Linux. Eventually, I was at the bar, and a guy had a 17" Titanium PowerBook behind the bar, with the iTunes visualizer playing. I was like, "What is that?!"

I soon bought a G4 TiPB, and I've never looked back since. Since then, I've bought a 20" iMac, a couple of iPods, a 13" MacBook, a 1G iPhone, a 3GS iPhone, a 27" iMac.

Why did I buy all of that stuff? Because my first experience with the TiPB and OSX was just awesome. I fell in love with it almost immediately, and each product I bought was better than the previous one. I absolutely adore my 27" iMac, for instance.

But if I had never had that first experience with the TiPB, I would never have owned all the rest of this stuff.
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post #216 of 216
2/12/11 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

So Apple users are attractive mindless drones? What?

Yup, that about sums it up.
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