AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Motorola Xoom featured in ad packed with Apple references
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Motorola Xoom featured in ad packed with Apple references - Page 2

post #41 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:31pm
The best ads, iPad is magical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATpSPNIuj3M
Fun and relaxing way to prepare Japanese Language Proficiency Test (JLPT) test with Juku Apps
Reply
Fun and relaxing way to prepare Japanese Language Proficiency Test (JLPT) test with Juku Apps
Reply
post #42 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:34pm
What a lame advert. Not sure what it even looks like.

Took a look at the original. Classy. But that's the Apple way. Apple is for the rest of us.

There's room for competition but at $800+, the price may slow its sales. Possibly, price cuts will exhume it.
Know History; Not just your Folklore
Reply
Know History; Not just your Folklore
Reply
post #43 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:34pm
I really hope Apple positions the iPad 2 as the "spec leader" among the iOS devices. Right now the iPhone has the most RAM while the iPod touch has the largest amount of storage.
Reply
Reply
post #44 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:35pm
Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today. iOS devices are completely closed and don't really allow you to think; you have no choice with them, really. I mean, hell, Big Brother in Apple's 1984 ad even kinda looks like Steve Jobs, being an old, thin man wearing glasses.

I once saw a "Post your iPhone homescreen" thread, and it was the funniest thing. It might as well have been "What apps do you have on your homescreen, and what wallpaper are you using?" since they all looked the same. And what's really, really funny (sad?) is that it took three years to even get to use your own background on iPhones; how can anyone even justify that?

Anyway, enough about that; unto the Xoom. The Xoom will be a great success. No, it won't sell as much as the iPad, but it will still be very successful. However, the biggest thing about the Xoom is that it's just the first step in what's going to be an explosive year for Android tablets.

I want you all to bookmark this page, and check it one year from now. By this time next year, the iPad will have less than 50% of the tablet market. This is so certain it's basically fact (please don't try and debate this, I'm completely right). Allow me to explain:

Android currently has 22% of the Tablet market. That's pretty much just thanks to the Galaxy Tab--a device that really can't compete with the iPad, in software or in hardware--as well as several of those cheapy Android tablets made by companies you've never heard of.

But this year, beginning with the Xoom, we're going to see a major explosion of high-profile tablets, running software that was actually built around the tablet form-factor (instead of just an upscaled phone operating system, like with the iPad and the Tab).

Just like the Motorola Droid was the harbinger of Android's domination in the smartphone industry, the Xoom will be the harbinger of its domination in the tablet industry.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please don't try and argue with me, as it's pointless; everything I said is completely right and true. Please bookmark this page and check it one year from now.
Reply
Reply
post #45 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:36pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post

Congratulations Motorola. You just gave Apple more free advertisement.

They were too busy "trying" to mock Apple they failed to feature their own tablet more. Everyone I was with watching the Super Bowl who saw the commercial thought it was an iPad.

:lol Yup! The white airbuds made me think it was an Apple iPad commercial. I'm sure some viewers would think that Xoom was a new model name for the iPad2! You know, after a couple of beers, nobody's going to read the tag line. What was the tagline anyway? Great game. Glad Greenbay won back the trophy. The really weird commercial was the Sony Ericson commercial with the thumbs sown onto the Android robot. The Frankendroid can now play games! Better keep my thumbs in my pocket before they cut mine off!
Reply
Reply
post #46 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:43pm
insult removed
We know where you are. We know where youve been. We can more or less know what youre thinking about. - Eric Schmidt
Reply
We know where you are. We know where youve been. We can more or less know what youre thinking about. - Eric Schmidt
Reply
post #47 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post

Have you seen the 1984 ad? How is it ripping it off?

Seriously? You really can't see the similarities? I hope you're joking.
Reply
Reply
post #48 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:45pm
I liked the commercial! Of course I am old and remember the original, it probably won't resonate on anyone younger then 40. I like the references, though too bad only a small number of people, diehard apple people will get it. I don't think trying to be cool is way to attack the tablet market.

Apple is in the lead and it will be hard to stop the momentum. Almost a year after the first iPad and the market has not been able to get close to Apple's price. Volume will give Apple the price advantage, one off features are not going to dislodge the iPad. I don't think the average person is comparing specs on tablets. A faster processor does not really beat out thousands of apps.

Googles tablet OS may develop into a competitor next year, but it is at least a year behind, and with technology that may as well be a decade. Unless someone can beat Apple on price, it will be hard to compete. In that way it is similar to Apple vs. MicroSoft.
Reply
Reply
post #49 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:49pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Hmmmm... more meanderings from a sociopath...

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

Please don't flame me, not only is it uncalled for, it's against the rules.
Reply
Reply
post #50 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:49pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today. iOS devices are completely closed and don't really allow you to think; you have no choice with them, really. I mean, hell, Big Brother in Apple's 1984 ad even kinda looks like Steve Jobs, being an old, thin man wearing glasses.

I once saw a "Post your iPhone homescreen" thread, and it was the funniest thing. It might as well have been "What apps do you have on your homescreen, and what wallpaper are you using?" since they all looked the same. And what's really, really funny (sad?) is that it took three years to even get to use your own background on iPhones; how can anyone even justify that?

Anyway, enough about that; unto the Xoom. The Xoom will be a great success. No, it won't sell as much as the iPad, but it will still be very successful. However, the biggest thing about the Xoom is that it's just the first step in what's going to be an explosive year for Android tablets.

I want you all to bookmark this page, and check it one year from now. By this time next year, the iPad will have less than 50% of the tablet market. This is so certain it's basically fact (please don't try and debate this, I'm completely right). Allow me to explain:

Android currently has 22% of the Tablet market. That's pretty much just thanks to the Galaxy Tab--a device that really can't compete with the iPad, in software or in hardware--as well as several of those cheapy Android tablets made by companies you've never heard of.

But this year, beginning with the Xoom, we're going to see a major explosion of high-profile tablets, running software that was actually built around the tablet form-factor (instead of just an upscaled phone operating system, like with the iPad and the Tab).

Just like the Motorola Droid was the harbinger of Android's domination in the smartphone industry, the Xoom will be the harbinger of its domination in the tablet industry.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please don't try and argue with me, as it's pointless; everything I said is completely right and true. Please bookmark this page and check it one year from now.

Samsung admitted that they distributed about a 22% market share into the sales market. This would include Verizon, and ATT as well as other distribution channels. What consumers actually bought was "much less". Google it on your "Tab" soda.
Honeycomb is not out yet, honey! Tab is running on hand phone Android and the screen in relatively small so it is worthless if you want to examine Xrays, CAT scans, sell real estate, or show off a picture of your "junk". Any other tablet running Android is a black market clone that's either garbage now or will fall apart like a transistor radio from the '60's.
Reply
Reply
post #51 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:53pm
I thought Apple was making an iPad commercial with a retro feel. Way to sink yourselves Motorola.
Reply
Reply
post #52 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:56pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today. iOS devices are completely closed and don't really allow you to think; you have no choice with them, really. I mean, hell, Big Brother in Apple's 1984 ad even kinda looks like Steve Jobs, being an old, thin man wearing glasses.

I once saw a "Post your iPhone homescreen" thread, and it was the funniest thing. It might as well have been "What apps do you have on your homescreen, and what wallpaper are you using?" since they all looked the same. And what's really, really funny (sad?) is that it took three years to even get to use your own background on iPhones; how can anyone even justify that?

Anyway, enough about that; unto the Xoom. The Xoom will be a great success. No, it won't sell as much as the iPad, but it will still be very successful. However, the biggest thing about the Xoom is that it's just the first step in what's going to be an explosive year for Android tablets.

I want you all to bookmark this page, and check it one year from now. By this time next year, the iPad will have less than 50% of the tablet market. This is so certain it's basically fact (please don't try and debate this, I'm completely right). Allow me to explain:

Android currently has 22% of the Tablet market. That's pretty much just thanks to the Galaxy Tab--a device that really can't compete with the iPad, in software or in hardware--as well as several of those cheapy Android tablets made by companies you've never heard of.

But this year, beginning with the Xoom, we're going to see a major explosion of high-profile tablets, running software that was actually built around the tablet form-factor (instead of just an upscaled phone operating system, like with the iPad and the Tab).

Just like the Motorola Droid was the harbinger of Android's domination in the smartphone industry, the Xoom will be the harbinger of its domination in the tablet industry.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please don't try and argue with me, as it's pointless; everything I said is completely right and true. Please bookmark this page and check it one year from now.

And Apple will still be accounting for over 50% of the tablet profit. Having the leading marketshare can often be pyrrhic victory especially when comparing platforms where one is is from a single vendor and the other is comprised of several vendors vying for the same customers.
Reply
Reply
post #53 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:57pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebrie View Post

I'm pretty sure Creative tried this same ad strategy against the iPod and quickly discovered that mocking your potential customer base is a horrible idea.

Hi, I'm a Mac
And I'm a PC

Do you want me to continue?

To set the record straight: This thing will NOT require carrier activation. Best buy will require the activation before they sell it to you. This is COMMON PRACTICE for companies selling cellular device, even tablets. Look for other stores to offer to sell it to you outright, no activation required.

As for the ad:

Remember this ad is out:
-Before a majority of people even knew there was an android tablet (or anything other than an ipad for that matter)
-before an official release date
-before anyone knows the official pricing or monthly costs

It's likely the first in a series of advertisements that will either build on the theme presented in this first ad or reference to it.

Remember the initial "iDon't" commercial? People didn't know what it was, what it meant, and most of the tech world wrote it off. But that campaign turned android into "why are you talking about startrek" to every android device being called a "droid" no matter what carrier it was on.
Reply
Reply
post #54 of 216
2/6/11 at 9:57pm
You got it! Link right on my desktop and an iCal reminder.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today. iOS devices are completely closed and don't really allow you to think; you have no choice with them, really. I mean, hell, Big Brother in Apple's 1984 ad even kinda looks like Steve Jobs, being an old, thin man wearing glasses.

I once saw a "Post your iPhone homescreen" thread, and it was the funniest thing. It might as well have been "What apps do you have on your homescreen, and what wallpaper are you using?" since they all looked the same. And what's really, really funny (sad?) is that it took three years to even get to use your own background on iPhones; how can anyone even justify that?

Anyway, enough about that; unto the Xoom. The Xoom will be a great success. No, it won't sell as much as the iPad, but it will still be very successful. However, the biggest thing about the Xoom is that it's just the first step in what's going to be an explosive year for Android tablets.

I want you all to bookmark this page, and check it one year from now. By this time next year, the iPad will have less than 50% of the tablet market. This is so certain it's basically fact (please don't try and debate this, I'm completely right). Allow me to explain:

Android currently has 22% of the Tablet market. That's pretty much just thanks to the Galaxy Tab--a device that really can't compete with the iPad, in software or in hardware--as well as several of those cheapy Android tablets made by companies you've never heard of.

But this year, beginning with the Xoom, we're going to see a major explosion of high-profile tablets, running software that was actually built around the tablet form-factor (instead of just an upscaled phone operating system, like with the iPad and the Tab).

Just like the Motorola Droid was the harbinger of Android's domination in the smartphone industry, the Xoom will be the harbinger of its domination in the tablet industry.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please don't try and argue with me, as it's pointless; everything I said is completely right and true. Please bookmark this page and check it one year from now.
Reply
Reply
post #55 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today.

I'd bet you were not even born in 1984 or you were in diapers. I was around far longer than that. I remember that commercial, and I certainly remember the way things were in the 80's when IBM and Microsoft/DOS was the only game in town in terms of what was offered for the masses.

The problem with folks like you is that you try to pass off what Motorola is doing as something factual.

You're right in that you're not worth anywhere near a tangible effort in arguing with you. You can continue believing whatever you want in your little, pathetic bubble.

The actual reality is that back in the 80's, there was no choice. Today, there is choice everywhere. Motorola and other companies would kill to be in the exact same position that Apple is in now.

This commercial only says one thing. That everyone chose Apple because they provided the best choice for consumers, and no one except one person wanted that Xoom, and that he's such an anti-social, nerd/geek/techtard to even get the courage to approach a girl. Typical.
Reply
Reply
post #56 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmovie View Post

Samsung admitted that they distributed about a 22% market share into the sales market. This would include Verizon, and ATT as well as other distribution channels. What consumers actually bought was "much less". Google it on your "Tab" soda.
Honeycomb is not out yet, honey! Tab is running on hand phone Android and the screen in relatively small so it is worthless if you want to examine Xrays, CAT scans, sell real estate, or show off a picture of your "junk". Any other tablet running Android is a black market clone that's either garbage now or will fall apart like a transistor radio from the '60's.

Actually the "much less" comment was a mistranslation. Sort of like the "return rate" was just another example of shoddy journalism.

And here's a little hint:
-If samsung sold the tab to Best Buy, or if they sold it to Joe the Plumber they still get paid. This is why the typical arguments of "Motorola's not making anything because Verizon is giving the phones away" and the like are meaningless. That phone that a customer got BoGo? Motorola got full payment for it. This is the reason Apple's profits are so high. They're making insane money from the carrier's because you the consumer don't see the actual cost of the device 9/10
-7 inches is easier to hold/manage than a 10 inch device. 10 is nice for browsing at your hour or at work, but it sucks if you're on the go.
Reply
Reply
post #57 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruel24 View Post

The rumors are, backed by a leaked Best Buy ad, that the Xoom is actually going to be more expensive than an iPad? Who are they kidding? Do they have delusions of grandeur? They'll be laughed out of the market...

You would seriously have to be someone of my age or better to remember the 1984 Apple ad and make the connection. Most people won't. It was a lame commercial.

Although the "1984" ad is a classic, it only ran once at the Super Bowl, and any student of advertising and marketing knows of and has seen it. I'm in Advertising and probably seen that ad a lot more than the average viewer young and old, but do not associate this Xoom ad with it. There's a campaign for a TV maker and a Cable service that has a bunch of people represent color pixes, or bits of information. This is what I think the Xoom commercial mimics. In the end, doesn't the Xoom really just want to hook up with the Apple girl? You could tack on Coke's "Share the Happiness" (or whatever their tagline is) and sell Coke instead. So much for focus groups and creative strategies! As the article so deftly concluded, there commercial makes no product superiority claims, nor does it allude to a point of difference. Sure is one Hell of a way to blow a million or more dollars on a nebulous Super Bowl commercial that simply reinforces the attraction of an iPad. Personally, giving the gal real flowers instead of drawing her a picture on an $800 tablet would have done the job a lot better and a lot cheaper. I'd still have some money left over for coffee! \
Reply
Reply
post #58 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


This commercial only says one thing. That everyone chose Apple because they provided the best choice for consumers, and no one except one person wanted that Xoom, and that he's such an anti-social, nerd/geek/techtard to even get the courage to approach a girl. Typical.

You missed the point of the entire commercial then, and by extension the 1984 original ad.

By your reasoning, everyone chose IBM because it was the best choice for consumers, and no one except one person wanted that mac, a chick with anger issues who instead of showing people why her machine is better she just destroys theirs. Typical.


Or you know, it could be, like the 1984 commercial, "There is something new coming, and it's different. stay tuned for more information". He also got the girl in the ad btw, and considering the entire culture wore earbuds, he was the most social one there.

Side note: I find it ironic that so many apple sites/blogs are commenting about how the xoom ad was a failure because it told you nothing about the device. Neither did 1984, or the first iphone commercial, or the first droid commercial. All three of those products seem to be doing well for having a launch ad that "told you nothing."
Reply
Reply
post #59 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:10pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by frugality View Post

The iPad is slow, doesn't play flash, and you're limited to buying your programs from Big Brother via the App store. I don't think the iPad is a slam-dunk by any means.

More options are good. Apple is becoming the Big Brother they once slung the hammer at in '84.

The only reasom people refer to Apple as the new "Big Brother" is because they are bigger and more sucessful now. So what is Apple to do make crappy products that no one buys so they are the "little brother?" Apple will never be likes the IBM's or MS's type they play by there own rules, run there own game and "we" not "them" watch as others follow in there wake. Apple is a company that is currently not stopping, they are constantly trying to change the way people look at technology and making it better. Sure it is there "playground" for the most part but it's were they can really shine and keep making products better. Not like Dell or HP who has to wait for MS to finally get Windows as a competitor to Mac OS X. Apple someday WILL plataue more likely but for now this is there time, they day to shine and I say let them. MS had it's glory days when it made a deal with the devil (IBM) years ago, now lets watch Apple take the consumer electronics to the next level!!
Reply
Reply
post #60 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:12pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Xoom is, according to an Engadget report, expected to become available February 24, in a CDMA/EVDO 3G-only version sold by Verizon for $800. The unit will be accompanied by optional data plans that start at $20 32GB per month for 1GB, but an ad from BestBuy also notes that "to activate WiFi functionality on this device, a minimum of 1 month data subscription is required." Unlike the iPad, there are no cheaper WiFi-only versions of the Xoom.
[/url][/c]

This will spell doom for Xoom.

The only buyers of this overpriced tablet will be the die-hard Android fans and Apple-haters. Why does Motorola feel the need to sell through a carrier and not make a WiFi-only tablet? Did Verizon in their usual strong-arm tactics somehow convince Motorola to only sell thru Verizon only?

If Motorola wanted to make a dent, sell it directly to the retailers and bypass the carriers. Apple does that with the iPad.

Doesn't make sense. This will be another line-item written down in the book of Motorola's comedy of errors.
Reply
Reply
post #61 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:14pm
Should keep up with your research, pal. Check out AppleInsider's post 30 days later (30 Jan): "Samsung admits its iPad-rival Galaxy Tab sales...".

As bmovie's already pointed out, most may be in sellers hands but few have been actually bought and 16% of the few that were purchased, were returned. Sad, eh?

Think about it. Apple spent 7+ years planning the iPad. Then they saw the potential of a smart phone so the iPad was put on the back burner, built the iPhone and returned to their original plan.

You actually think that someone can, in less than a year, slaps together some Android guts and make something to compare to Apple's efforts?

The iPhone and iPad will follow in the well laid steps of the iPod.
Know History; Not just your Folklore
Reply
Know History; Not just your Folklore
Reply
post #62 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:15pm
So basically MOT cloned an Apple ad for their cloned Apple product. Classy (tm).
Reply
Reply
post #63 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menno View Post

Actually the "much less" comment was a mistranslation. Sort of like the "return rate" was just another example of shoddy journalism.

And here's a little hint:
-If samsung sold the tab to Best Buy, or if they sold it to Joe the Plumber they still get paid. This is why the typical arguments of "Motorola's not making anything because Verizon is giving the phones away" and the like are meaningless. That phone that a customer got BoGo? Motorola got full payment for it. This is the reason Apple's profits are so high. They're making insane money from the carrier's because you the consumer don't see the actual cost of the device 9/10
-7 inches is easier to hold/manage than a 10 inch device. 10 is nice for browsing at your hour or at work, but it sucks if you're on the go.

What you fail to appreciate is that if Best Buy doesn't sell those products they will have no need to order more. And when you introduce your next product, Best Buy might well be much more circumspect about ordering in quantity. So, yes, Samsung got paid - the question is will there be future paydays.

BTW, the misunderstanding was that the words "quite smooth" were thought to be "quite small". Samsung has still not given any report of actual sell-through and don't think for a minute that they do not have these numbers. They're going to hear about it when they try selling additional units to Best Buy and other retailers.
Reply
Reply
post #64 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwoodenhead View Post

This ad is lame, and Xoom will not be a hit. At best it will be a modest success. It offers nothing better, and the price is not attractive. The truly successful Android tabs will be the Chinese cheapos. Yeh they are crap now, but after a year or 2 they will be fast enough to do browsing smoothly, and cost only 200 bucks. The future of Android is in the hands of these cheapo makers, Mot, Samy will soon find out there are no such things called high end Android devices.

you're right. except for hard core fandroids, no one will pay a premium price for any Android tab. they'll want the real Apple thing if they spend $500+. but budget buyers will buy a $300 Asus tab when they work OK. leaving MR and SS trapped into another race to the bottom. all that will kill is profits.
Reply
Reply
post #65 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:25pm
Thanks to the author for actually writing a somewhat balanced article. You actually pointed out some of the weaknesses of the iPad vs the Xoom!

Please continue to do so.

I'm an avid Apple fan, but that doesn't mean I like one-sided propaganda.
Reply
Reply
post #66 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by frugality View Post

The iPad is slow, doesn't play flash, and you're limited to buying your programs from Big Brother via the App store. I don't think the iPad is a slam-dunk by any means.

More options are good. Apple is becoming the Big Brother they once slung the hammer at in '84.

Give me a break. All these anti-Apple drones spouting the same nonsense. Big Brother? Android is a system set up by Google to gather information about people. That's how Google makes its money.
Reply
Reply
post #67 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menno View Post

You missed the point of the entire commercial then, and by extension the 1984 original ad.

By your reasoning, everyone chose IBM because it was the best choice for consumers, and no one except one person wanted that mac, a chick with anger issues who instead of showing people why her machine is better she just destroys theirs. Typical.


Or you know, it could be, like the 1984 commercial, "There is something new coming, and it's different. stay tuned for more information". He also got the girl in the ad btw, and considering the entire culture wore earbuds, he was the most social one there.

Side note: I find it ironic that so many apple sites/blogs are commenting about how the xoom ad was a failure because it told you nothing about the device. Neither did 1984, or the first iphone commercial, or the first droid commercial. All three of those products seem to be doing well for having a launch ad that "told you nothing."

The 1984 commercial was totally different than this. 1984 ad was demonstrating that a computer revolution was about to be released, The Mac! (you can argue all you want who made the "first" GUI system, but the FACT is The Mac was THE FIRST COMMERCIAL GUI SYSTEM). Apple was saying that IBM will not forever force you to use there clunky systems that only geeks could understand, hell IBM did not even truly create there own first "Personal PC", instead they built it from parts off the shelf and borrowed an operating system from Microsoft!! So the 1984 commercial was showing A Change in the way things were always done.

But whats even funnier is that Apple ALSO created this new "change" in portable computing with the iPad and now Motorola is trying to send a message..Well actually I really have no idea what message they are sending other than they COPIED the iPad and the 1984 Commercial!!! With no thought as to what message they are sending other than "me too"!!
Reply
Reply
post #68 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:28pm
Quote:
Motorola's new tablet boasts a slightly larger screen and resolution (10.1 inches, 1280x800) than Apple's existing iPad


I think the iPad screen's larger in square inches as the Xoom is long and thin.

I think people should quote them in square inches as well as diagonally otherwise pretty soon people will be building screens that look like noodles to tout size.
Reply
Reply
post #69 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:29pm
I think that the Best Buy ad is FAKE. Otherwise, some people are going to get fired.

There are 2 spelling mistakes:
1) "Do it all lighting fast..."
2) "To activative..."

Plus, doesn't that look more like a G-Slate? It doesn't look like a 10" tablet to me.
Reply
Reply
post #70 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:30pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menno View Post

Actually the "much less" comment was a mistranslation. Sort of like the "return rate" was just another example of shoddy journalism.

And here's a little hint:
-If samsung sold the tab to Best Buy, or if they sold it to Joe the Plumber they still get paid. This is why the typical arguments of "Motorola's not making anything because Verizon is giving the phones away" and the like are meaningless. That phone that a customer got BoGo? Motorola got full payment for it. This is the reason Apple's profits are so high. They're making insane money from the carrier's because you the consumer don't see the actual cost of the device 9/10
-7 inches is easier to hold/manage than a 10 inch device. 10 is nice for browsing at your hour or at work, but it sucks if you're on the go.

Didn't know you spoke or could write Korean! So what did the Korean spokeswoman actually mean as she apologized to the Press? Is it like the big numbers that Microsoft attributes to Windows 7 Mobile who also says they've sold huge quantities to the phone companies!

Because your 7 incher is running on software built for a schmuckphone, you've got to zoom in to see a bigger picture and then loose detail. Get in too close and you loose all orientation, Do this with Google maps. At 10 inches, and built for the bigger sized table, pans, zooms and scrolls are smoother, sharper and snappier. There are no page turn lags and going from landscape to horizontal mode just happens without going black in between. If they can make Honycomb work on the Tab, then maybe there would be no contest, but for now, your Tab is running on last year's software built for handsets. Even Google recommended manufacturers not to use Android. Do I have to Google that in Korean for you?

Finally, you are not a professional. If I were using a tablet to look at an Xray, I would want as much size, resolution and fidelity as possible. If I were an architect, I wold want size and resolution. If I were selling websites, photography, fashiion, real estate, or anything that produced an income, I would want size and fidelity. We're not talking about a scrawny 7 inch slab that you take into the bathroom to play games and to look at porn. For you, 7 inch may just be fine.
Reply
Reply
post #71 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:31pm
Motorola could have used this (extremely expensive) airtime to get users excited about their new product. Instead, they used it to take a personal swipe at Apple's iDevice customers (the many millions of them) -- a swipe that is not particularly clever and will probably fly over most average consumer's heads. I mean, who hasn't owned an iPod at this point? That's what it looked like most of the drones were using.

This is the problem with phone manufacturers -- they only know how to compete using petty, tech-spec arguments that don't stand a chance against Apple's glowing, magical, utopian marketing machine. Average consumers don't think like tech nerds -- average consumers just want products that work for as little money as possible.

Further, the original 1984 commercial worked so well because using a computer at the time was an uphill battle. The Orwellian imagery, though representing IBM ostensibly, was really representing a collective emotion about computing -- a shared negative emotion that Apple promised to relieve. Motorola's commercial is using the same conceit, but Apple customers actually LIKE their experience -- so the metaphor falls flat.

Also, Apple was a youngish, rebellious company in 1984 -- David to IBM's Goliath. Motorola is a big, monster corporation itself, so you're just trading one drone life for another ... not a big win.

Plus, let's be honest, a hipster sending virtual flower cartoons? Yuck. I'd rather be a drone than a douchebag!
Reply
Reply
post #72 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by frugality View Post

The iPad is slow, doesn't play flash, and you're limited to buying your programs from Big Brother via the App store. I don't think the iPad is a slam-dunk by any means.

More options are good. Apple is becoming the Big Brother they once slung the hammer at in '84.

One Engadget commentator nails it:

I still dont get the Apple is big brother thing.

They arent trying to be the only option by squeezing out every other OS & having only iOS available on every handset out there. They have their OS ONLY ON THEIR OWN HARDWARE.

They make the hardware & the software, just like RIM & Blackberry.

Oh, is RIM the devil too?

So let me get this straight the OS that is being pushed to be on every phone out there and is on more phones than anything else, & whos underlying purpose is to get your personal information so a giant company can know everything about you and use it for their own gain, that is the one that isnt big brother?
Reply
Reply
post #73 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by mhikl View Post

Should keep up with your research, pal. Check out AppleInsider's post 30 days later (30 Jan): "Samsung admits its iPad-rival Galaxy Tab sales...".

As bmovie's already pointed out, most may be in sellers hands but few have been actually bought and 16% of the few that were purchased, were returned. Sad, eh?

Think about it. Apple spent 7+ years planning the iPad. Then they saw the potential of a smart phone so the iPad was put on the back burner, built the iPhone and returned to their original plan.

You actually think that someone can, in less than a year, slaps together some Android guts and make something to compare to Apple's efforts?

The iPhone and iPad will follow in the well laid steps of the iPod.

So you're quoting an article that was based on misinformation? You do know that the "16%" return rate was totally FUD right? The actual return rate (per official numbers) was under 2%.

And if you read AI's other article's, you'd see that the Xoom is approaching the idea of a tablet differently. They're making it more of a mobile computing device instead of a oversized media device like the ipad is right now. The ipad is great at media consumption, but at the end of the day, its an iphone with a few nice ad ons like pop up menus.

Honeycomb is a totally different take on tablets, and doubly so on android.
Reply
Reply
post #74 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:37pm
People forget the circumstances of the 1984 commercial. IBM moved into the personal computer market in 1981 in response to the success of the Apple II and Commadore PET. Microsoft produced DOS the same year but was an insignificant player at the time. Just 3 years after IBM managed to produce it's first affordable personal computer, Apple changed the game completely with the Mac. IBM was at that time a stodgy, monolithic and absolutely gigantic business-oriented mainframe company making moves to take over the fledgling personal computer market. The personal computer movement had been associated with 70s counterculture and IBM was as far from it as you can get. The ad spoke to people. Compare with the Motorola ad where they're advertising an also-ran product by speaking to the tiny minority of people who think Apple's curation of the App Store is an insult to freedom and doing so by portraying iPod owners, who probably make up 99% of their potential buyers, as mindless sheep. Anyone who actually understands the reference should be offended.
Reply
Reply
post #75 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

Some of you guys aren't thinking as much as you should, if you think they're "copying" the 1984 ad. They're alluding to it, to make fun of the fact that the image portrayed in that ad is *exactly* what Apple is today. iOS devices are completely closed and don't really allow you to think; you have no choice with them, really. I mean, hell, Big Brother in Apple's 1984 ad even kinda looks like Steve Jobs, being an old, thin man wearing glasses.

I once saw a "Post your iPhone homescreen" thread, and it was the funniest thing. It might as well have been "What apps do you have on your homescreen, and what wallpaper are you using?" since they all looked the same. And what's really, really funny (sad?) is that it took three years to even get to use your own background on iPhones; how can anyone even justify that?

Anyway, enough about that; unto the Xoom. The Xoom will be a great success. No, it won't sell as much as the iPad, but it will still be very successful. However, the biggest thing about the Xoom is that it's just the first step in what's going to be an explosive year for Android tablets.

I want you all to bookmark this page, and check it one year from now. By this time next year, the iPad will have less than 50% of the tablet market. This is so certain it's basically fact (please don't try and debate this, I'm completely right). Allow me to explain:

Android currently has 22% of the Tablet market. That's pretty much just thanks to the Galaxy Tab--a device that really can't compete with the iPad, in software or in hardware--as well as several of those cheapy Android tablets made by companies you've never heard of.

But this year, beginning with the Xoom, we're going to see a major explosion of high-profile tablets, running software that was actually built around the tablet form-factor (instead of just an upscaled phone operating system, like with the iPad and the Tab).

Just like the Motorola Droid was the harbinger of Android's domination in the smartphone industry, the Xoom will be the harbinger of its domination in the tablet industry.

Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please don't try and argue with me, as it's pointless; everything I said is completely right and true. Please bookmark this page and check it one year from now.

Another person who thinks that Apple is Big Brother!! Look pal unlike 1984, today you have many choices and many good ones at that! Apple does now force you to buy there products, that is why they are priced higher, the reason they do not command the lead in Personal Computers, they do not command the lead on Mobile Phones, about the only thing they command a lead in is Music players and thats just because they so damn good at it and people love there iPods! So is Apple so horrible for making products people want and love? I think not, and has your life stopped because Apple is a company to recon with today. You do not like Apple I assume and I suppose you do not buy there products! GOOD!! Nice to know you have have options though huh? SO MOVE ON!!
Reply
Reply
post #76 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmovie View Post

Didn't know you spoke or could write Korean! So what did the Korean spokeswoman actually mean as she apologized to the Press? Is it like the big numbers that Microsoft attributes to Windows 7 Mobile who also says they've sold huge quantities to the phone companies!

Because your 7 incher is running on software built for a schmuckphone, you've got to zoom in to see a bigger picture and then loose detail. Get in too close and you loose all orientation, Do this with Google maps. At 10 inches, and built for the bigger sized table, pans, zooms and scrolls are smoother, sharper and snappier. There are no page turn lags and going from landscape to horizontal mode just happens without going black in between. If they can make Honycomb work on the Tab, then maybe there would be no contest, but for now, your Tab is running on last year's software built for handsets. Even Google recommended manufacturers not to use Android. Do I have to Google that in Korean for you?

Finally, you are not a professional. If I were using a tablet to look at an Xray, I would want as much size, resolution and fidelity as possible. If I were an architect, I wold want size and resolution. If I were selling websites, photography, fashiion, real estate, or anything that produced an income, I would want size and fidelity. We're not talking about a scrawny 7 inch slab that you take into the bathroom to play games and to look at porn. For you, 7 inch may just be fine.

YOu don't need to speak korean to read an updated post on engadget.

I don't own a tab. It's samsung and samsung never updates crap, phones, tvs, or dvd players. But the issues you're saying with zooming in and panning don't exist. For the first part, the pixel density is a lot better on the Tab compared to the ipad, this means you have to zoom in less to see clear text. Also, there are no "formatting issues" and the lag you're talking about is due to samsung's shoddy implementation of internal memory more than anything else.

If you were a professional, you wouldn't be looking at an xray on a tablet period. The screens offer nowhere near the clarity required for serious work.

And as a mentioned earlier, the resolution is BETTER on the tab, so images will be clearer.

Then again, it's clear you've never handled a 7 inch tablet before, and from your comments, I highly doubt you really use your ipad, if you have one. Here's another hint: Attempting to troll someone by showing your immaturity never works.
Reply
Reply
post #77 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by poke View Post

people forget the circumstances of the 1984 commercial. Ibm moved into the personal computer market in 1981 in response to the success of the apple ii and commadore pet. Microsoft produced dos the same year but was an insignificant player at the time. Just 3 years after ibm managed to produce it's first affordable personal computer, apple changed the game completely with the mac. Ibm was at that time a stodgy, monolithic and absolutely gigantic business-oriented mainframe company making moves to take over the fledgling personal computer market. The personal computer movement had been associated with 70s counterculture and ibm was as far from it as you can get. The ad spoke to people. Compare with the motorola ad where they're advertising an also-ran product by speaking to the tiny minority if people who think apple's curation of the app store is an insult to freedom and doing so by portraying ipod owners, who probably make up 99% of their potential buyers, as mindless sheep. Anyone who actually understands the reference should be offended.

well said!!
Reply
Reply
post #78 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voight-Kampff View Post

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

Please don't flame me, not only is it uncalled for, it's against the rules.

@V-K, I'm with you on the above point. I might respectfully disagree with your opinions but it's wrong to label someone whose opinions differ as a sociopath.

@ bmovie: your change of V-K's name in the title of your post was totally uncalled for.

Let's all be little more tolerant of other posters and their comments around here.
Reply
Reply
post #79 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:42pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by poke View Post

People forget the circumstances of the 1984 commercial. IBM moved into the personal computer market in 1981 in response to the success of the Apple II and Commadore PET. Microsoft produced DOS the same year but was an insignificant player at the time. Just 3 years after IBM managed to produce it's first affordable personal computer, Apple changed the game completely with the Mac. IBM was at that time a stodgy, monolithic and absolutely gigantic business-oriented mainframe company making moves to take over the fledgling personal computer market. The personal computer movement had been associated with 70s counterculture and IBM was as far from it as you can get. The ad spoke to people. Compare with the Motorola ad where they're advertising an also-ran product by speaking to the tiny minority if people who think Apple's curation of the App Store is an insult to freedom and doing so by portraying iPod owners, who probably make up 99% of their potential buyers, as mindless sheep. Anyone who actually understands the reference should be offended.

You'd be surprised by the number of everyday customers (aka, people who don't know that sites like Engadget and BGR exist, much less this one) that are sick and tired of apple. Not for the app store, not for their policies, but because EVERYONE has them, and there are a lot of people with iphones that if you say you don't want one (for whatever reason) you'll never hear the end of it.

What a lot of people on forums tend to forget is that your views are ALWAYS in the minority when it comes to the consumer viewpoint. the fact that you post on a forum on "the internets" proves this.

And remember, Apple ran their "I'm a mac" ads for years, blatently mocking well over 90% of their potential buyers.
Reply
Reply
post #80 of 216
2/6/11 at 10:44pm
Re post from Poke:


People forget the circumstances of the 1984 commercial. IBM moved into the personal computer market in 1981 in response to the success of the Apple II and Commadore PET. Microsoft produced DOS the same year but was an insignificant player at the time. Just 3 years after IBM managed to produce it's first affordable personal computer, Apple changed the game completely with the Mac. IBM was at that time a stodgy, monolithic and absolutely gigantic business-oriented mainframe company making moves to take over the fledgling personal computer market. The personal computer movement had been associated with 70s counterculture and IBM was as far from it as you can get. The ad spoke to people. Compare with the Motorola ad where they're advertising an also-ran product by speaking to the tiny minority if people who think Apple's curation of the App Store is an insult to freedom and doing so by portraying iPod owners, who probably make up 99% of their potential buyers, as mindless sheep. Anyone who actually understands the reference should be offended.
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPad
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Motorola Xoom featured in ad packed with Apple references