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Just days before Verizon and Apple are set to begin general sales of the iPhone 4, Sprint has countered by unveiling an exclusive new Android-powered dual-touchscreen smartphone from Kyocera, a unique device touted as an "industry first."

Sprint held an event this week to hype the Kyocera Echo, a new device with two 3.5-inch WVGA touchscreen displays connected by a patent-pending "pivot hinge," which allows the screens to operate independently, side-by-side or combined. When working in concert, the screens create a display that measures 4.7 inches diagonally, operating in what has been dubbed "tablet mode."

The Echo is set to launch exclusively on the Sprint network this spring for $199.99 with a two-year contract, after a $100 mail-in rebate.

"Sprint is proud to boast the most powerful Android portfolio available today and Echo adds to that legacy with industry-leading technology that will change the way our customers use smartphones," Sprint CEO Dan Hesse said. "Todays busy schedules often demand that we do at least two things at once. Kyocera Echo is the first device that allows us to do a different task on each of two screens while also providing a tablet-like, larger screen experience that easily fits in a pocket when closed."

Just a few days after Apple and Verizon formally announced the Feb. 10 launch of the CDMA iPhone 4 last month, Sprint began hyping an event scheduled for three days before that launch. The carrier boasted that it would show off an "industry first," though the news that Verizon's deal with Apple is non-exclusive led to speculation that Sprint could announce that it too would carry the iPhone 4.

Instead, Sprint announced on Monday the Kyocera Echo, which allows users to accomplish two tasks at once, such as sending an e-mail on one screen and surfing the Web on another. In its closed position, the echo works as a single-display smartphone that the carrier called "pocket friendly."



"For years Kyocera has provided handsets to Sprints Prepaid Group and MVNOs, as well as to Sprint under the Sanyo brand," said Eiichi Toriyama, president of Kyocera Communications Inc. "We value greatly our relationship with Sprint and we are thrilled that they have chosen Echo as the standout product with which to reintroduce its customers to the Kyocera brand. With Kyocera Echo, we are proud to give Sprint an iconic, industry-changing device that delivers an entirely new experience for smartphone users."

In order to take advantage of the dual-screen display, Kyocera has customized the Google Android mobile operating system, optimizing native applications for browsing, messaging and e-mail, photo viewing, and accessing the phone and contacts. Using VueQue, users can watch a YouTube video on one display while accomplishing tasks on the other. The Echo runs Android 2.2.



The handset will ship with a spare 137 mAh battery and a low-profile charging cradle, which can also tether the spare battery to the handset to act as an external power supply. Other features of the Echo, according to Sprint and Kyocera, include:

Sprints nationwide 3G network and Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g)
Wi-Fi hotspot capability, which supports wireless connections for up to five devices
5-megapixel camera with flash, autofocus and digital zoom
720p HD camcorder to quickly capture those on-the-go memorable moments
Corporate (Exchange ActiveSync) and personal (POP & IMAP) e-mail, IM (Google Talk), text messaging
Media player with a 3.5 mm stereo headset jack
Stereo Bluetooth 2.1 (+ EDR)
Full HTML Web browser with Google Search
1GHz Snapdragon processor (QSD 8650 Android)
1 gigabyte (GB) of onboard memory and an 8GB microSD card for the external memory card slot supporting cards up to 32GB
Voice and text prompts in both English and Spanish
post #2 of 172
seems gimmicky, but then again, it might appeal to a lot of people. I'm really curious to see how this thing does. I doubt Sprint expects this to be an "iphone killer"
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It begs the question... what happens with each Android update?
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If the battery holds, it may be a nice product to have around. But not for me
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What a design disaster.

As Mr. T used to say, I pity the fool...
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I'm really curious to see how this thing does.

I'll just tell you right now, and save you the wait: you'll never hear about this phone again. Ever.
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It begs the question... what happens with each Android update?

I bet 2.3 will be the most this thing sees since there's so much software customizing needed to be done by the manufacturer. Most phones these days might end at 2.3 actually. 3.0 sounds like it's geared at tablets, and I was reading how 3.0 might have a "light" version for phones.

I wonder if Google will split Android development and specifically say Android for Tablets and Android for Phones, and 3.0 is the start of that split...
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It begs the question... what happens with each Android update?

Hah, what android update? I was unaware android phones ever got updated lol
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that isn't from Apple.
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What a design disaster.

Why's that? Actually, the part where it says you can watch youtube on one screen while working with the rest of the phone on the other sounds kind of cool. If this is like a per app thing, imagine being in a conversation with someone via text message while playing angry birds lol
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Why's that?

You're wasting your time. It's like reverse trolling only worse.
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that isn't from Apple.

Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that is from Apple.

Don't quote me, it's more fun if he doesn't know what I'm saying.
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Why's that? Actually, the part where it says you can watch youtube on one screen while working with the rest of the phone on the other sounds kind of cool. If this is like a per app thing, imagine being in a conversation with someone via text message while playing angry birds lol

Yeah, that'll be great for battery life.

It's going to be awkward to use and easily broken, and it's ugly.
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that is from Apple.

Don't quote me, it's more fun if he doesn't know what I'm saying.

What you call bashing is often a very neutral or fair stance. You remind me of all the right wing nutjobs that have gotten so used to Fox News' far right bias that they view every OTHER news network as far left!
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If the battery holds, it may be a nice product to have around. But not for me

2 screens to break instead of 1. If they are providing a spare battery, battery life must suck, which it probably does with two screens.

Sort of a knockoff of Nintindo DS series. Does it do 3D?
post #16 of 172
what about battery life?
A lot of information is provided, but its interesting to see that some is missing.
'Tablet' sized screen but room for phone battery?
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Yeah, that'll be great for battery life.

It's going to be awkward to use and easily broken, and it's ugly.

Hey, you never know. The displays might not be using as much power as you think, and it's the phone's radio that's mostly to blame for battery drain.

Easily broken, we don't know that. Awkward to use, Nintendo sells gameboys like this. Ugly, yes.
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interesting idea. In fact, I quite like it. IF battery is not at least 5-6 hours in full use on both screens then I agree with above, its the last you will hear of it.

Its interesting though, I can see lots of uses for this set up.
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Why's that? Actually, the part where it says you can watch youtube on one screen while working with the rest of the phone on the other sounds kind of cool. If this is like a per app thing, imagine being in a conversation with someone via text message while playing angry birds lol

Ah yes... Not enough to do one useless thing with your time... Double down.
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What you call bashing is often a very neutral or fair stance. You remind me of all the right wing nutjobs that have gotten so used to Fox News' far right bias that they view every OTHER news network as far left!

Funny, you often remind me of the same thing.
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Ah yes... Not enough to do one useless thing with your time... Double down.

I predict that the above will be the best comment of the thread.
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... Awkward to use, Nintendo sells gameboys like this.

Yeah, I know, I've watched people using them.
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Is this serious? Oh my, they really can't compete these days.
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that isn't from Apple.

Umm, you are at an APPLE forum, not Engadget. It's what we do! LOL
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that isn't from Apple.

Well honestly this phone is a total Fail. 1st gen processor, no 4G, no front camera, only 5mp camera and it costs $200 with a $10/month smartphone data fee. I have an EVO 4G and I absolutely love it but the Echo just sucks. Most people expected something amazing to best the current top of the line phone on Sprint, the EVO, but this one just isn't gonna do it. I'm not an Apple "fanboy" but I do have some of their products and they're awesome. Kyocera just isn't
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Funny, you often remind me of the same thing.

Of course I do. You're biased. That's how that works.

Right here, you are literally talking out of your ass trying to find reasons to not like this thing, all based on opinion and assumptions alone. Why? Oh because Apple didn't make it.

AI is the equivalent of Fox News with Apple related news. Did we ever get a follow up on that INCORRECT 16% return rate for the galaxy tab? Turns out it was only 2%, and every other tech news site I visit DID follow up. Not here. Not at Fox Ne--- I mean, Apple Insider.
post #27 of 172
Seems gimmicky to me too. Has this company produced any other phone that worked well? I never heard of them.
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I agree with some others. This is a very niche market sort of product. It will scoop up a small handful of people who might want this sort of thing but it isn't practical for any sort of utilitarian purpose (and what features it does have will be counter-weighed by things like battery life). It makes sense in trying to grab a small market, but it is useless as a large-scale competitor.
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post #29 of 172
I don't like moving parts on my cell phone, but Apple should consider making their screen larger (keep same pixel count)....there is plenty of wasted space above/below the screen right now.
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Of course I do. You're biased. That's how that works.

Right here, you are literally talking out of your ass trying to find reasons to not like this thing, all based on opinion and assumptions alone. Why? Oh because Apple didn't make it.

AI is the equivalent of Fox News with Apple related news. Did we ever get a follow up on that INCORRECT 16% return rate for the galaxy tab? Turns out it was only 2%, and every other tech news site I visit DID follow up. Not here. Not at Fox Ne--- I mean, Apple Insider.

I told you- you're wasting your time. It's like dealing with AI's own Anne Coulter. As if Apple's never made anything ugly- and this may not be museum material but it's far from ugly.
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Fail - Fail
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Hah, what android update? I was unaware android phones ever got updated lol


They do have updates and they don't require iTunes to do them.
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They do have updates and they don't require iTunes to do them.

That might be true but do they work...
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Let's see - additional battery, dual monitors on the one hand. On the other, a radical UI change, apps will need to be updated to take advantage of two screens. No thanks.

The plus for this for Sprint is a unique form factor (not sure it'll win converts but it does help with marketing) and a lot of attention for a few days. Hype is hype. I read about this on so many blogs. For Kyocera maybe a toe hold in the US cell phone market? Even if they don't knock it out of the park with this one it can still "succeed" since there are many measures of success.
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Well honestly this phone is a total Fail. 1st gen processor, no 4G, no front camera, only 5mp camera and it costs $200 with a $10/month smartphone data fee. I have an EVO 4G and I absolutely love it but the Echo just sucks. Most people expected something amazing to best the current top of the line phone on Sprint, the EVO, but this one just isn't gonna do it. I'm not an Apple "fanboy" but I do have some of their products and they're awesome. Kyocera just isn't

Well put. My point is that it will probably appeal to kids and as such not everything needs to be of museum quality to further erode Apple's iOS share. Therefore not a total fail.
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Some people on here need to get a life and not constantly bash anything and everything that isn't from Apple.

People are going to bash other products on an apple themed site. Duh!!!! Helll they even bash apple products on this site.

This phone is a double fail.
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This thing is like two "average" Android device surgically stitched together..
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This phone was clearly "Plan B" in case Sprint didn't get the iPhone.
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...an exclusive new Android-powered dual-touchscreen smartphone from Kyocera, a unique device touted as an "industry last."

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post #40 of 172
So uh, I guess you can't do youtube on one screen and then talk/email/text while using the other screen on 3G. Hahaha. Looks like a DS.
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