Originally Posted by Jcoz
I would never claim to KNOW, its more, "I suspect"....
The Mac will never play into this discussion IMO, with the price points they are set at.
I agree it did seem well off....like I said this is a newborn for them I don't know where its going exactly...... too many details in the fog.
My only real concrete opinion is that this has real potential for HP, as you pointed out they have a strong retail presence, real buying power re:components, and if webOS is a hit, then a real OS to build from.
That is something unmatched by any other non-apple manufacturer right now. That is what is intriguing to me.
A Macbook and Macbook Air, starting at $999 isn't that far off in price from the $829 iPad. Many people would go for the difference to get the extra features such as a keyboard and larger, higher rez screen, if they felt it was important to them.
"The Mac will never play into this discussion" That's not claiming that you know? It's pretty definite. I usually say that I think that something is true or false, though sometimes I feel more strongly.
In this case, I feel pretty strongly about it. I've seen a lot of things come and go in the computer field since i first studied programming in high school in 1966. Usually, when manufacturers come out with products for a specific audience, it fails. Apple could do that because their buying public was small to begin with, and what would be a failure in sales for a much bigger company would be perfectly fine for them. Not so much anymore.
So when I think something will fail, I don't mean that it won't sell. But how many does Hp need to sell in a year for them to think it's successful? Can they make that number. I don't think so.
We can look to an interesting example. Dell saw Apple's sales in the $1,000 and up computer market, which has been over 90% for several years. They decided to come out with a high end laptop line to challenge Apple Macbook and Macbook Pro lines called the Adamo, late 2009.
A short time ago, they announced (quietly) that they had discontinued the line. But when it first came out, many web sites, writers and others in the industry said that it would sell very well, and make a big dent in Apple's laptop sales growth. It didn't.
Now, these weren't bad machines, though they didn't look great, as they were trying too hard to look expensive. but people don't look at Dell as a high end computer company, or as a consumer company. All of their consumer products have failed, and were dropped.
Will people view Hp as the company to go to for this type of product? If not, it will fail, even if there is a big enough market for it.