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post #321 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by running with scissors:
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i think you missed the point. re read it for clarity. your boys played a hell of a game but one win in the last 4 years and your acting like it is a regular occurence is my point. look at it with some perspective. should of, could of, would of is bullshit. you lost that game in 2000, period. get over it, we have.</strong><hr></blockquote>


ok, i think YOU missed the point of my original post. i never said that it was a "regular occurence" nor was i acting like it. and when you say that over the last 10 years it's been one way, that's bullshit, cause players rotate in and out every four years so teams are constantly changing. our team this year is completely different from our team 4 years ago, just as yours is. yours is much better. ours is worse. i just pointed out that we beat you THIS year. i know u just wanna dismiss it because you've beaten us the last few years, but that argument is irrelevant. sorry to break it to you...
if anyone's living in the past, it's you.
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post #322 of 493
i think your getting hung up on the whole ten years that texas was kicking our ass comment. this was in response to your comment that texas can't beat us but you could. never said anything about us kicking your ass for ten years. what i did say was that since stoops took over, this is our first loss to you guys.
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post #324 of 493
yes, upsets are fun, unless your on the other side of it. damn you
post #325 of 493
So anyone think Texas / Texas Tech might be a good game. SOmething in the order or 42 /35 , last team with the ball wins?
post #326 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by norfa:
<strong>So anyone think Texas / Texas Tech might be a good game. SOmething in the order or 42 /35 , last team with the ball wins?</strong><hr></blockquote>

texas should have no problems. texas wins 34 - 21.
post #327 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by running with scissors:
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texas should have no problems. </strong><hr></blockquote>

i actually agree. tech has NO defense. TU should be able score as many points as humanly possible in 4 quarters.
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post #328 of 493
The question will be can Texas Tech score more. If Tech isn't hot, it could be a 49-21 kinda game, on the other hand say Tech gets hot, gets a couple interceptiopns or fumbles, blocks a kick. We rarely get to see the Big 12 here in big 10 country, but, it would be nice if this game was one of the games I could click too during commercials. If for no other reason than I haven't seen any Big 12 team play this year. except Nebraska getting drilled by Penn State. That's the other thing I don't like about regional broadcasts. I'd like to see all the top teams play this year. The down side of the Bucks doing so well this year is they're on every week. Normally I would be crying to see them more, but this year apart from Notre Dame/ Michigan, I haven't seen anybody else.
post #329 of 493
So wait, how many time have you seen Iowa play this year then?
post #330 of 493
Go Trojans. Fight On. USC
post #331 of 493
Iowa, haven't seen them at all. And if OSU keeps winning, I won't see them till their bowl game. Whenever there's a highlight posted on the net I go see them. And there's always those little clips when they flash to another game on game day. So most my evaluation of them is gleaned by looking at the numbers they put up against teams I've seen. This year, they always look good. But they have the advantage, they don't play Ohio State. Before they played OSU, Purdue was 1st in offense in the big 10. Now one week later, they're third. The worst thing about the OSU / Iowa thing is it's not going to happen. Whoever won, it would be a great game. You guys are going to get screwed because of all the bias against the Big 10. They lost early, they should be ranked higher. But , that's the way it goes in beauty contest rankings. Big 10 teams are rarely flashy, but we play tough and we hit hard. Schools like Miami have no idea what it's like to get through a Big 10 or Big 12 schedule, where 7 of the 11 teams can take you down on a given week, and they all punish you physically even if you win.

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post #332 of 493
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A little out of the blue, but hey, Groverat, have you ever played NCAA Football 2003? Texas is THE TEAM on that game...
Biggest challenge to the Cyclone Fiesta Bowl run each season I've played (which have been pathetically many!)
UT and Oklahoma have cost virtual Seneca a couple Heismans, too!



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post #333 of 493
Penn State should be ranked higher. They lost 2 overtime games to 2 National Top 10 teams from the Big 10- both marred by controversial late calls in the game, and they lost to #2 Ohio State after not allowing an offensive touchdown but getting a disastrous missed call late in the game.

Larry Johnson should be Heisman trophy winner as well. He has like 1400 yards with a few games to go
post #334 of 493
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Hey, Kirk, Chris and the Coach are in Penn for the Penn/Harvard game! That's kinda cool. I like seeing teams that aren't on TV every week.

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post #335 of 493
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texas seems to have droped out of the NC race once again. what a shoot out.
post #336 of 493
Our whole NC race was dependent on your losing to OSU, which ain't happening again.

I don't even know what happen, this is surreal, it's like aliens landed.

We go to Lincoln: win.
We go to Manhattan: win.
We go to Lubbock: loss?

It's just surreal. Not sad or angry... just confused.

Did that really happen?
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post #337 of 493
yes.

shit just doesn't always work out the way you plan it. we know that better than anybody. chrissy played a great game though. unfortunately, cliffy was better. as much as i enjoy seeing you guys lose, it sure isn't going to help us any in the bcs.
post #338 of 493
Texas Tech won, damn!

I am so happy the Buckeyes pulled that one off, now it's a showdown at high noon against Michigan for a chance at the Fiesta Bowl. Illinois was tough. That receiver was awesome today thats for sure. I still thought that run out of bounds then run back in was a bunch of BS, that play could've ruined OSU's season for good. Thankfully Tressel's boys did what they have been doing all season long, coming up with the plays at the right moment.

They'll be ready for Michigan next Saturday. Beat the Blue & Gold!!!!
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post #339 of 493
It really is a shame that Iowa isn't playing Ohio State this season. They need some competition. And next season they'll be a totally different team.

So it's all down to whether Michigan plays spoiler for Ohio State again. If so, a lot of people will get to see Iowa play. If not, well, a whole bunch will, and I'll actually get to see Ohio State.

11 wins for the first time in UIowa history, undefeated in the Big 10 for the first time since 1922. Go Hawks.
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post #340 of 493
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post #341 of 493
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Texas Tech-Nothing scarier than a great QB that get HOT on top of it.

Damn, ISU loses again...
That Buff running game-nation's leading rusher goes down, in comes Purify to rip off 80 yards in the final drive.

So isn't Iowa pretty much in the Rose Bowl?
If Ohio State loses, Iowa's Big 10 champs.
If Ohio State wins, they go Fiesta and Iowa goes Rose, right?

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post #342 of 493
Larry Johnson ran for 327 yards today for Penn State, shattering 3 records. He has almost 1800 on the season, and LEADS THE NATION in all-purpose yards. He better win the Heisman!
post #343 of 493
Kansas State is underrated.
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post #344 of 493
Penn State would kick Kansas State's ass
post #345 of 493
Alliance, were you laughing about your 5th loss of the season (3rd at home) or our 2nd?

You won't be laughing on T+1, my boys will be primed and ready to pound your pathetic squad into dust. Have fun at the blue field bowl.

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Illinois was a real tough 4-6 team.
Get ready to get your ass stomped at home by Michigan.

Not only is OSU not going to the Fiesta, they won't even get a BCS bowl.
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post #346 of 493
hey, looking at anothers misfortunate doesnt make yer shitty performance look any better. i admit that our team is crap this year. and btw, we've lost 4 at home this year (equal to home losses in the entire decade of the 90s combined), so don't cut us short.
admit it. you got spanked. belittling us might make you feel better, but the point here isn't us. it's that you lost to tech. TECH! the shithole of texas. it's the worst feeling the world, isn't it? well don't worry big guy. i feel yer pain. but at least it didn't hurt so much for us cause our team wasn't so heavily favored. we knew we were bad. that's why yer loss is so funny. yer arrogance finally comes back to bite u in the ass.
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post #347 of 493
Losing to A&M would feel a lot worse.

As would staring 6-6 and blue-turf bowl in the face.

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post #348 of 493
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post #349 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Alliance, were you laughing about your 5th loss of the season (3rd at home) or our 2nd?

You won't be laughing on T+1, my boys will be primed and ready to pound your pathetic squad into dust. Have fun at the blue field bowl.

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Illinois was a real tough 4-6 team.
Get ready to get your ass stomped at home by Michigan.

Not only is OSU not going to the Fiesta, they won't even get a BCS bowl.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh lord. I said Illinois WAStough, implying that they played tough today, which they did. If you watched the game maybe you would have realized how they put everything out on the field as they should have with nothing to lose. That's the parody in college sports.

What matters is that Ohio State is still undefeated, and they are #2 in the BCS (or #1??). You can't take anything away from Illinois because despite the fact that OSU wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders, the Illini played a great game. You keep underestimating OSU and saying they are always going to lose, yet they continue to make the plays to win football games. This is with banged up guys too. What other teams did you say OSU was gonna lose to? Penn State? Illinois? Now it's Michigan.

What happens when they beat Michigan? Oh, you'll make an excuse and say they'll get beat by Miami. They probably will, but at least they got to play Miami, something Texas won't have a shot at. What is this like the 2nd time Texas has spoiled their national championship hopes? The mighty Longhorns have been out of the national championship hunt for about a month now.

Your drivel is nonsense, especially to say OSU won't even be in a BCS bowl.

Oh, and another thing.

SCOREBOARD.

Ohio State keeps winning buddy.
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post #350 of 493
[quote]That's the parody in college sports.<hr></blockquote>

Whenever I see Ohio State's offense play I think there must be some sort of parody. Perhaps a parody of a high school team's offense. I'm glad that someone else sees the parody too.

Btw, I recommend dictionary.com for all your homophone needs Tiger.

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post #351 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
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Oh lord. I said Illinois WAStough, implying that they played tough today, which they did. If you watched the game maybe you would have realized how they put everything out on the field as they should have with nothing to lose. That's the parody in college sports.

What matters is that Ohio State is still undefeated, and they are #2 in the BCS (or #1??). You can't take anything away from Illinois because despite the fact that OSU wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders, the Illini played a great game. You keep underestimating OSU and saying they are always going to lose, yet they continue to make the plays to win football games. This is with banged up guys too. What other teams did you say OSU was gonna lose to? Penn State? Illinois? Now it's Michigan.

What happens when they beat Michigan? Oh, you'll make an excuse and say they'll get beat by Miami. They probably will, but at least they got to play Miami, something Texas won't have a shot at. What is this like the 2nd time Texas has spoiled their national championship hopes? The mighty Longhorns have been out of the national championship hunt for about a month now.

Your drivel is nonsense, especially to say OSU won't even be in a BCS bowl.

Oh, and another thing.

SCOREBOARD.

Ohio State keeps winning buddy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ohio State couldn't score an offensive touchdown against Penn State. Luckily, they got an interception and a bad call later in the game to win. What sucks is that the Big 10 has 4 good teams that could kick the crap out of the top 10, save the occasional Miami. But who knows really?
post #352 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:
<strong>Penn State would kick Kansas State's ass</strong><hr></blockquote>

i seriously doubt that. k-state is a scary team to face. they have a defense that few teams can match, especialy against the run. their special teams are smoothering. they can run it at you offensively or they can hit you with an effective passing game with tallented recievers. add to the mix a qb that can take off out of the back field and scramble for an 80 yard td, makes it very hard to stop all their weapons. penn state would have to have a flawless game. running, even from johnson, would be very hard to come by. you stop him, and your 75% there. if we make it to the big twelve championship, i'm glad we'll be facing colorado rather than k-state. much less stress.
post #353 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:
<strong>Larry Johnson ran for 327 yards today for Penn State, shattering 3 records. He has almost 1800 on the season, and LEADS THE NATION in all-purpose yards. He better win the Heisman!</strong><hr></blockquote>

And Penn St. had all of 54 rushing yards against IA. There's no way Johnson deserves the Heisman over Brad Banks. No way. And just because JoePa just about had a stroke at the end of the game doesn't make that call controversial. What about the touchdown the refs took away from us in the first half? Penn State was just lucky that we hadn't learned how to finish teams off at that point in the season. Remember when the score was 35-13 at the start of the 4th quarter? Yeah, you guys were right there with us the whole game, right? You would never get those quick scores on our secondary now. Iowa has gotten better every game, and Brad Banks is a huge part of that.

Penn State is a good team. I'll give you that, but they're not playing anywhere near at Iowa's level right now. And there's no way they would blow K-State out of the water. They might be in the game, but I would put my money on K-State.

I just wish we could take back 3 plays against IA State and play Ohio State this year. Then maybe the Hawks would get their due.
post #354 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by Simple Ranger:
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And Penn St. had all of 54 rushing yards against IA. There's no way Johnson deserves the Heisman over Brad Banks. No way. And just because JoePa just about had a stroke at the end of the game doesn't make that call controversial. What about the touchdown the refs took away from us in the first half? Penn State was just lucky that we hadn't learned how to finish teams off at that point in the season. Remember when the score was 35-13 at the start of the 4th quarter? Yeah, you guys were right there with us the whole game, right? You would never get those quick scores on our secondary now. Iowa has gotten better every game, and Brad Banks is a huge part of that.

Penn State is a good team. I'll give you that, but they're not playing anywhere near at Iowa's level right now. And there's no way they would blow K-State out of the water. They might be in the game, but I would put my money on K-State.

I just wish we could take back 3 plays against IA State and play Ohio State this year. Then maybe the Hawks would get their due.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Aye! On one hand you claim that Iowa wasn't fully matured that early in the season and on the other hand you imply that Penn State somehow was. Dude...Larry Johnson ramped up late in the season as well. They lost in overtime on a bad call, one that was indicated by Paterno and pretty much conceded in the media (even though Penn State doesn't get ANY respect...Just look at the two runningbacks ahead of Larry Johnson right now) Then you say try to compare a quarterback over a running back soley on the basis that Iowa has a better record than Penn State. Using that logic, only top 5 teams would ever win the Heisman. Larry Johnson is making his case right now. You definitely underestimate Penn State.
post #355 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:
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Aye! On one hand you claim that Iowa wasn't fully matured that early in the season and on the other hand you imply that Penn State somehow was. Dude...Larry Johnson ramped up late in the season as well. They lost in overtime on a bad call, one that was indicated by Paterno and pretty much conceded in the media (even though Penn State doesn't get ANY respect...Just look at the two runningbacks ahead of Larry Johnson right now) Then you say try to compare a quarterback over a running back soley on the basis that Iowa has a better record than Penn State. Using that logic, only top 5 teams would ever win the Heisman. Larry Johnson is making his case right now. You definitely underestimate Penn State.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm saying as you talk about "the bad call" that robbed you of a win against Iowa, you forget that earlier in the game there was a much more blatant missed call that robbed Iowa of a touchdown (since I believe you still need to make contact before a player can be called down by contact). I belive that was also conceded in the media, but I don't hear you talking about that.

Plus, I would say that victories is just as valid a stat as rushing yards accumulated against Indiana. Maybe that's just me though. I agree that the Heisman is always biased for winning teams, but that's just the way it goes. Of course for quarterbacks, victories is the important stat because it's not always about raw yardage. It's more about how they pace the game and perform at key moments.
post #356 of 493
The mighty Longhorns were out of the national title picture on 10/13. OU losing two conference games was highly unlikely from the beginning. The realistic thing was a BCS spot, which ain't happening now. We'll go to the Holiday Bowl yet a-freaking-gain.

I don't make excuses for why OSU wins, it doesn't take away from the fact that they play like crap, their offense is a joke, but it's defense that wins championships.

[quote]What is this like the 2nd time Texas has spoiled their national championship hopes?<hr></blockquote>

Wouldn't national championship hopes be spoiled every year you don't win it? I guess UT has spoiled championship hopes damn near 100 times in their history.

"All UT needed was to win out, have OU lose to Texas Tech at home, then beat Colorado/Kansas State (BigXII North Champ, then have OSU lose to Michigan and Washington State lose to Washington next week, it was right in their grasp!"
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post #357 of 493
It has to be said every year, Ohio State ended last year 7 and 5. There's always next year. I'm not sure what everyone gets from bqashing the Bucks. It might be pointed out that we beat Illinois without using our best running back. Or that we had what the replays showed was a touchdown placed on the two yard line on a phantom call. Or that a reciever went out of bounds making an illegal catch which gave Illinois 3 points at the half. Everyone seems to have selective memory. Ohio State's biggest fault is that they only play their whole offense when they need to. Yesterday as the announcer's pointed out, they didn't run outside the tackles until overtime. But that doesn't mean they'll ever lose. That just means they have more to pull out of the hat when they get in trouble. People confuse running up the score against weak teams , with being a good team. There's a a difference. Watch this Ohio State team, it will begin to sink in on you after a while. Hey did I have that Texas, Texas Tech. game pegged or what? Now does anyone else have any comments about TT being a cheap win for Ohio State?
post #358 of 493
And as far as weak teams/weak schedules are concerned, let's take a look at how 2 teams played the same team:

Ohio State 42
Texas Tech 21

Texas Tech 42
Texas 38

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[quote]Originally posted by Simple Ranger:
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I'm saying as you talk about "the bad call" that robbed you of a win against Iowa, you forget that earlier in the game there was a much more blatant missed call that robbed Iowa of a touchdown (since I believe you still need to make contact before a player can be called down by contact). I belive that was also conceded in the media, but I don't hear you talking about that.

Plus, I would say that victories is just as valid a stat as rushing yards accumulated against Indiana. Maybe that's just me though. I agree that the Heisman is always biased for winning teams, but that's just the way it goes. Of course for quarterbacks, victories is the important stat because it's not always about raw yardage. It's more about how they pace the game and perform at key moments.</strong><hr></blockquote>

LJ is second in the nation for rushing yards and first and the nation in for all-purpose yards. He trails that Colorado RB by 6 yards for first in the nation in the former and is assured of surpassing him against Michigan State next week. Aye.... I don't know....at least for runningbacks he has to be the top contender.
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[quote]since I believe you still need to make contact before a player can be called down by contact<hr></blockquote>

Not sure what call you're talking about, but "down by contact" doesn't exist in college.

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