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post #81 of 493
[quote]Oh no, let's not play two decent teams in the same year OOC!<hr></blockquote>

Hardly anyone wants to schedule more than one competent opponent OOC anymore. If one were to take a look at the Texas Longhorn's schedules in recent years and this year and in the future it is clear that Texas has the exact same philosophy. But at least they scheduled right the first time and didn't have to backtrack later on as Mobilehoma is having to do now.

Btw, UCLA still didn't make the Rose Bowl in 97, WSU did. And they did make it in 98 but lost to a bunch of slow ass honkies from Wisconsin. Last Rose Bowl win for UCLA was in...dunno...but it has been about 20 years. Well before Shanny started watching the Gilmore Girls.
post #82 of 493
1985. They beat 4th ranked Iowa 45-28.
The 97 bowl was a win in the Cotton Bowl against Texas A&M.

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post #83 of 493
Ah yes. That was an excellent Iowa team with Chuck Long. I remember vividly how they annhilated Texas in a bowl game in 84. Well not really but it did happen. In 85 Iowa had been number one at one point that season I believe, but I assume they lost one game before they got to the Rose Bowl, not sure who it would have been to. They played the #1 vs. #2 game that year versus Michigan which they won 12-10 which was Michigan's only loss of the season. UCLA had some real good teams during the early 80's as the USC dynasty declined and before scholarship cuts #2 brought true parity. IIRC Rick Neuheisal would have been playing for the Bruins around that era.
post #84 of 493
Avoiding scheduling it that way is understandeable (albeit weak), but to come out the next (business)day after nearly losing to a team and saying you want to back out of the game with them the next year is absolutely hilarious.
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post #85 of 493
I highly doubt that the game had anything to do with the rescheduling decision. Oklahoma has been reworking their schedules ever since Stoops arrived. In fact this game against Alabama in 2003 was supposed to be played in 2001 IIRC but Oklahoma requested that it be moved to 2003 as they did not want to play North Carolina and Alabama in the same season. Lots of teams move the pieces around to manipulate each season. Note that that article does not include any direct comments from the Oklahoma AD, rather it is second hand from the Alabama AD and not even quotes at that. The Alabama AD probably just brought it up now so as to give that very impression, that Oklahoma was wussing out when in fact it had little to do with this game. That's not really a big surprise though, Mal Moore is a scumbag and that whole athletic dept/booster culture is one of the most corrupt in college athletics. It would be illogical to reschedule the game out of a fear of this particular set Alabama players based on yesterday anyway. Alabama is far more likely to be dangerour team in a few years when they are off probation and can recruit and develop better than they will be next year. You just cannot risk getting a third loss and thus not being BCS eligible with $11 million a game at stake.

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post #86 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Avoiding scheduling it that way is understandeable (albeit weak), but to come out the next (business)day after nearly losing to a team and saying you want to back out of the game with them the next year is absolutely hilarious.</strong><hr></blockquote>

these talks could have been going on far before this game was even played. why would this info be leaked out now and who do you think it benefits? alabama maybe?
post #87 of 493
I don't really see the difference. Either way OU is trying to get out of playing two decent teams OOC in the same year after already having scheduled the game.

I wonder what Bob "No Excuses" Stoops thinks about it.
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post #88 of 493
The main point is that the suggestion that they were reacting to a close game by running scared for next year seems unlikely, though that was how it was framed earlier in the thread. We must always respect truch while ridiculing our rivals' fallacies young groverat. Such is the way of the Force.

The rescheduling is just an extension of hte same philosophy that many have. Perhaps they should feel obligated to play the game because there is a contract. On the other hand if Alabama agrees to alter the contract so that hte game takes place, just in a different year, then I don't see that as a problem. Now cancelling it altogether would be a bit weak. Perhaps it is incongruent with Stoop's bravado, however if the contract predates him, and most football games are scheduled 5-10 years in advance, then it is not like he made a choice, decided it was booty wack and then tried to remix it. It is just something that he likely inherited.
post #89 of 493
Your selective application of cold reason is unmoving.

I am sure you be just as diplomatic if OU in this situation was replaced by UT.
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post #90 of 493
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IIRC, didn't Auburn weasel out of a game with Florida State right after they unceremoniously dumped Terry Bowden?

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post #91 of 493
Man, reading this topic, you'd think there wasn't a single decent college FB team outside the midwest & southeast.

Prepare to be dominated by northwest teams, all you wimps (except Miami -- I'm a-scared of you guys)!
post #92 of 493
Ya, Michigan, watch out for that team from Washington, thye're going to dominate, oops, that was already played.
post #93 of 493
Auburn may have wimped out. They have a weak scheduling history. They went a decade without playing an OOC road game from 91-01 as they scheduled all chumps to be disposed of at home. They did play Syracuse last year and the had USC this year and I believe they may play Syracuse again in a few weeks so they are getting better in that regard.

Washington State will lose to OSU this weekend and join Washington in defeat to a Big 10 school. That leaves the NW with an Oregon team that just snuck by Fresno State and an Oregon State team that has yet to play anything resembling a decent team as they come off of a losing record last year. Oregon still looks to be a solid team though as do the two from WA, even if they are/will be bested by Big 10 teams.
post #94 of 493
Much as I hate the Huskies, they did cover the spread, and nearly won on the road. In fact, except for a stupid mistake at the end (which I will never let them forget) they would have won.

Oregon State might very well turn out to be the best defense in the Pac 10 as well, though I agree they haven't proven anything yet given the quality of their opponents.

Here's hoping UO whoops up on their own weak opponents the next two weeks, fine-tunes their offense a bit, and goes into the Pac 10 schedule
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post #95 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by MagicFingers:
<strong>prediction: Notre Dame 27
Michigan 24

Let the Flames heat up!!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

groverat :
Fumble recoveries? Interceptions returned for touchdowns?

That offense is going to lay a fat goose-egg, your sights are set way too high.

hmmm....looks like the magic goes beyond the fingers,huh?
post #96 of 493
Colorado U = most overrated team of the year so far.

Anybody disagree?
post #97 of 493
The Bear will not quit.

The Bear will not die.

Go Bears!
post #98 of 493
Bah, a pox on Notre Dame and their stupid gold helmets always on my television!
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post #99 of 493
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Just got home from Iowa City, ISU 36, Iowa 31-whooo, what a game!
Iowa just KILLED them in the first half, up 24-7 but had two fumbles deep in ISU territory and a saftey to start the 3rd quarter and get the 'Clones back in.

I was lucky to get out of the stadium without getting in any fights-my stupid friend got us tickets in the Hawkeye student section without realizing it. I stayed low-key so there were no problems during the game, but walking out my ISU hat drew some ire from drunken U of I kids!

I told one group yelling bad things from a distance,"Kicking my ass won't change the score!" and quickly ducked into a group of old ladies.
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Most of the fans were real cool, though, and Kinnick is a great setting for a game, Tom Arnold notwithstanding!

I see Ohio State won-that cost me five bucks!

Look out, Irish Eyes seem to be smiling again! I think it's good for college football if Notre Dame is good, they really are a lot of the game's history, plus it gives everyone else someone to hate!

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post #100 of 493
Hey Magic, nice call on Notre Dame/ Michigan. I hope you won some money on that one.
post #101 of 493
PENN STATE OVER NEBRASKA 40-7! ASTONISHING!
post #102 of 493
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YES!!! I hate Nebraska! Only, now it won't seem like such a big deal when ISU beats the Huskers!



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post #103 of 493
I have to bring this thread up cause I totally forgot to mention about last weekend.

We had Ohio State beat. Should've won the game. Here I am, an OSU fan, moving in watching the game thinking OSU slaughters the bearcats 60-0, and then I find the Cincy contingent sittingin front of the big screen in the lobby. Score? 12-7.Do I need glasses? Hell no I don't! So I watched the game and it was an amazing game, and simply crazy down here. UC was in control most of the game and both teams made some incredible plays. Our receiver was makin some of the most unbelievable catches I've EVER seen down the stretch, and it was the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. UC was driving....QB throws to end zone....TOUCHDOWN! We jump up screamin and then the guy drops the ball!!!!! Then with less than a minute left they still had a chance and boom,intercepted in the end zone. I should mention another time they were driving deep into Buckeye territory and whatever his name is throws it straight to an OSU defender. Argh!

We're not a football school, and had the #6 team in the nation using every ounce they had to pull it out. Claw painted on paul Brown, pretty cool.Now THAT would've been something to get a win. Back to sucking.
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post #104 of 493
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Oh, man that would've been sweet! Did I hear them say OSU hadn't lost to another team from the state in 80some years?
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God, I want Iowa State to beat Nebraska this weekend-I've never felt they had a better chance!
We need a praying smilie...

How impressive does Miami look now, after Florida goes and wins at Tennesse?
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post #105 of 493
PENN STATE, BABY.....

UNDEFEATED- NATIONAL CHAMPIONS 2003, JUST WAIT
post #106 of 493
the cards knocked off the seminals last night. hell of a finish. florida st. is still far from being where they were a couple of years ago. that loss should push them out of the top 10.
post #107 of 493
jeffboy-Herbstreet thinks its gonna happen. I think so too.
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post #108 of 493
Louisville won? Dang! is Ragone the real deal or what? He played high school up here at St. Ignatius. Damn catholic schools.
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post #109 of 493
PENN ST COMES BACK FROM 23-0 TO TIE THE GAME AT 35!!!!!! OVERTIME!!!!!
post #110 of 493
well looks like penn state lost...

BC shutout central michigan tho first shutout in 7 years
43-0

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post #111 of 493
So Nebraska has lost two games this year already. If they're not careful, they'll end up in the BCS National Championship Game again.
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post #112 of 493
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ISU 36
Nebraska 14!


"These may not be the Huskers of old, but these are the Cyclones of new!" -Pete "The Voice of the Cyclones" Taylor

:eek: :cool:

Man, this is the worst Nebraska offense I've ever seen! They had one 90 yard pass and that was basically IT! Their other touchdown came on a blocked punt.

U of Iowa won too! (Geez, they can't hold a lead!)

Quite a day for the Cyclone State!

Jeff
Edit:Found a cooler picture.

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post #113 of 493
I love seeing overrated teams lose. It's a beautiful thing, especially the teams that are so often overrated like Nebraska, Colorado and FSU.
post #114 of 493
Lets not overlook VT, if they can pull off a win against Miami... Just look at how they played against them last year, and compare that with how tech is playing this year. THAT should be a GREAT game.

GO TECH!
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post #115 of 493
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I love VT-that's the model I'm hoping Iowa State is following. Obviously got a long way to go, though.

Suggs is my favorite running back to watch in college right now-speed and power!

I'll be rooting for them Dec. 7, I just don't know if ANYONE can hang with Miami, though.

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post #116 of 493
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Big day today, including the GAME OF THE YEAR...
Iowa State/Texas Tech!
Just kidding, although that should be a fun shootout!

Predictions?
I'll go
Texas 28
OU 21
Simms gets the monkey off his back for a while, anyway

Miami 45
FSU 35
Could be more of a blowout, but just have a feeling.
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Tennessee 28
Georgia 17
Just don't see much to impress me on the Dawgs

Penn State 31
Michigan 28
The Big 10 is a crapshoot outside of Ohio State

Oregon
UCLA
I'll defer to the Pac 10 fans at AI.

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post #117 of 493
Damn, FSU has the lead 17-14 at the half on MiamiThat's with a late scoring drive by the Hurricanes to end the half.Shocking.
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post #118 of 493
PENN ST @ 3:30 EST!
post #119 of 493
[quote]Originally posted by jeffyboy:
<strong>I love it when I stumble onto a really great game I would never give a second look on paper. Thursday ESPN games tend to be pretty cool like that.

Jeff</strong><hr></blockquote>

Like this past Thursday? :eek: <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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post #120 of 493
None the less, Tech came out on top of that game.

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