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The first major overhaul to Apple's MacBook Pro line in nearly a year is on the cusp of fruition, with production actively underway and volume shipments to begin as early as the first week of March, AppleInsider has been told.

A person familiar with the matter said the Mac maker currently anticipates an introduction of the new models within about two weeks time, which would represent a delay of just a couple of weeks from when the company initially hoped to usher the new models onto the market. The setback was attributed to a widely publicized design flaw in the chipsets accompanying Intel's new Sandy Bridge processors, which the new MacBooks are expected to employ.

That latest revelations appear to support a rumored timeframe shared last week by Danish blog KennethLund.dk (via MacRumors), which identified Tuesday, March 1st as a prime candidate for the notebook launch. It should be noted that while both reports are believed to be on point as of Wednesday, Apple's product launches are often a moving target that can see last minute delays of several days due to unexpected anomalies in manufacturing or the company's supply chain.

Meanwhile, a second person familiar with the matter has hinted that a move to Intel's new Sandy Bridge architecture won't be the only highlight of the new notebook lineup, as Apple appears poised to up the value proposition of the new models through the addition of some enhancements of its own.

It's unclear, however, whether those enhancements are related to the "slight changes" in the notebook's unibody chassis design that the Cupertino-based company is rumored to have implemented, or something entirely different.

One thing that is clear is that Apple's new line of redesigned MacBook Airs are serving as an indicator for the future direction of the company's notebooks in general, with features such as instant-on, standard SSD drives, slimmer enclosures, and the omission of optical drives expected to become more prevalent in many of the models planned for future design cycles over the next 12 to 18 months.

The new MacBook Airs are so hot, in fact, that a third person familiar with Apple's supply chain recently revealed to AppleInsider that the ultra-thin portables are now selling in volumes roughly half that of MacBook Pros after being on the market for less than six months.



Last week, AppleInsider exclusively reported that a design error in Intel's Sandy Bridge chipsets, dubbed "Cougar Point," would have a immaterial impact on the next-generation MacBook Pros. One person familiar with the situation indicated that some, but not all, of the new notebook designs were affected by the situation, but minor tweaks to the logic boards of those models would result in delays of a couple of weeks at most.

Intel's Cougar Point chipsets support a total of six serial ATA ports, but Intel revealed earlier this month that it discovered an error that causes the performance of ports numbered 2 through 5 to degrade over time in extreme conditions. The issue applies to both mobile and desktop processors powered by Sandy Bridge technology.

Just a week after it disclosed the error, Intel announced that it had resumed shipment of chipsets for Sandy Bridge-powered PC system configurations not impacted by the design flaw. The company also said the new, fixed version of its support chip would begin shipping for systems that relied on SATA ports 2 through 5 in mid-February.

A refresh to Apple's MacBook Pro line is long overdue, with the last hardware update coming in April 2010. At the time, the high-end notebook line was outfitted with Intel's first-generation Core i7 and Core i5 processors.

For more on the future of Apple's professional notebooks, see AppleInsider's MacBook Pro information archive.
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Ahhhhh, ready to know the features, mostly the video. Ready for a gaming machine.
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the March 1st release window means that Apple is not using fixed chipset
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At least 10 TB of SSD is what I need in my MBP and that too at the price of HDD. Unless wireless transfer rate becomes like 10 GB per wink. I am just freaking tired by handling TBs of photos, movies and other data, plugging unplugging of external drives.
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I haven't even read the article but I'm so excited just from the title. WAHOO! I've been checking five different rumors sites every hour for any update on the Macbook Pro. 17" i7 8GB maxed out here I come!
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At least 10 TB of SSD is what I need in my MBP and that too at the price of HDD. Unless wireless transfer rate becomes like 10 GB per wink. I am just freaking tired by handling TBs of photos, movies and other data, plugging unplugging of external drives.

Unless SSD becomes cheaper with price per GB less than 10 fold of that of HDD's, I think I will be happily using my 2010 MBP. Merely upgrading CPU and RAM does not increase the system's performance a lot.
post #7 of 73
Intel always had a ship date of Feb 20 for the dual core chips so this article is somewhat misleading with it's implication Apple would have had them out sooner except for the SATA snafu.
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Excellent news. I just hope that between the design and the Sandy Bridge issues, the new MBPs are a mostly bug-free release (unlike last year's MBP release with all of the freezing issues). I usually don't jump to buy a new revision, but I'm way, way overdue for a new machine.
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Originally Posted by rbonner View Post

Ahhhhh, ready to know the features, mostly the video. Ready for a gaming machine.

Yeah man. After I ran Windows 7 Boot Camp on my 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, I can't get enough gaming. I can't wait for an even better graphics card. My FPS will at least double. I'm on my 9400M, I think I burnt out my 9600 because it's not even showing up in system profiler.
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Maybe they will finally dump the useless dvd and put in a 100GB SSD and a large HDD for speed, fast startup yet cost effective mass storage.
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Hopefully the improved value proposition will include transitioning to standardized higher resolution, IPS screens with no increase in price points.

It'll be interesting to see if the lack of a major delay is due to Apple getting first dibs on the new corrected chipsets or if it's simply because Apple isn't using the defective SATA ports but is still using the early chipset batches. In any case, I won't be looking to but until the summer so hopefully they'll transition over to the fixed chipsets by then.
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I need this rumor closed out so the iMac rumors can start. Been in the market a while...
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Originally Posted by Rehan View Post

At least 10 TB of SSD is what I need in my MBP and that too at the price of HDD. Unless wireless transfer rate becomes like 10 GB per wink. I am just freaking tired by handling TBs of photos, movies and other data, plugging unplugging of external drives.

Kudos for having 10 tb of photos and stuff. I don't know if you could get that much storage except possibly on a maxed out mac pro. I suggest that you reorganize some of your drives and put away the old ones you don't use. By the way, I heard (possibly here ) that a new 2tb drive came out for 75 dollars. Get one of those, otherwise get a laptop with firewire to watson
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post #14 of 73
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Maybe they will finally dump the useless dvd and put in a 100GB SSD and a large HDD for speed, fast startup yet cost effective mass storage.

I'd rather see a bigger battery. After all if you get a better screen, it'l take up a ton more battery




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Originally Posted by Rehan View Post

At least 10 TB of SSD is what I need in my MBP and that too at the price of HDD. Unless wireless transfer rate becomes like 10 GB per wink. I am just freaking tired by handling TBs of photos, movies and other data, plugging unplugging of external drives.

Go buy a Watson.
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Maybe they will finally dump the useless dvd and put in a 100GB SSD and a large HDD for speed, fast startup yet cost effective mass storage.

Id like the optical drive removed, the mini-PCIe SSD added, but also keeping the space for a standard 2.5 HDD/SSD so I can have speed and capacity, without sacrificing internal space.


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Originally Posted by ltcommander.data View Post

Hopefully the improved value proposition will include transitioning to standardized higher resolution, IPS screens with no increase in price points.

HP has IPS displays on one brand of notebooks for an additional $500 or something crazy like that. I assume these are special low-power IPS displays but I dont really know. The quality didnt seem much different from the quality TN panels Apple uses from one review I read.
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Originally Posted by IronHeadSlim View Post

Intel always had a ship date of Feb 20 for the dual core chips so this article is somewhat misleading with it's implication Apple would have had them out sooner except for the SATA snafu.

Feb 20th is the consumer launch date. Most computer manufacturers get their chipsets beforehand.
post #18 of 73
Agreed with many above!

YES- DROP THE USELESS OPTICAL DRIVE!!!

More Battery! More HD Space!!!!!!!!

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Nice to see we will get an update, I hope they will also update the mac mini too.

In other news, mouse acceleration suddenly started working today (I disable it long ago) and it remind me this : HOW THE CRAP can you possibly use that thing ?!? Apple need to put an option to disable this in setting has if i would not have been able to manually disable it in terminal, I would had RETURN my iMac just for this.

Seriously that thing is horrible, its like dragging the mouse cursor in mud.

How to disable mouse acceleration in terminal:
defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.mouse.scaling -1
defaults write .GlobalPreferences com.apple.trackpad.scaling -1
... then reboot.
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Without Blu-Ray, USB 3, and an guaranteed open install ability. not locking Mac OSX down to only apply sold or subscribed ... i may bolt to Windows laptop.

Sorry, i just don't think Netflix, books, Spotify and others ought to be paying a vig fee to apple to be on their platform. and stop censoring software that can be installed as well.

Apple makes tons of cash. let people use their devices as they see fit, not only as apple can monetize
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Without Blu-Ray, USB 3, and an guaranteed open install ability. not locking Mac OSX down to only apply sold or subscribed ... i may bolt to Windows laptop.

Sorry, i just don't think Netflix, books, Spotify and others ought to be paying a vig fee to apple to be on their platform. and stop censoring software that can be installed as well.

Apple makes tons of cash. let people use their devices as they see fit, not only as apple can monetize

I dont think youre on the correct thread or correct planet?
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Maybe they will finally dump the useless dvd and put in a 100GB SSD and a large HDD for speed, fast startup yet cost effective mass storage.

Make the optical drive bay modular so people can easily add what they want, whether it is a DVD drive, hard drive, or extra battery.

Create a docking station accessory with its own power button so people can turn on the laptop while the screen is closed.

Support daisy chaining of multiple monitors through the Mini Displayport connector.
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Make the optical drive bay modular so people can easily add what they want, whether it is a DVD drive, hard drive, or extra battery.

Someone is still living in the late 1990s. Amazing that you think a modular optical drive would happen on an aluminium milled case from Apple or that Apple would waste time building in more moving parts when they are looking to move away from it.
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Someone is still living in the late 1990s. Amazing that you think a modular optical drive would happen on an aluminium milled case from Apple or that Apple would waste time building in more moving parts when they are looking to move away from it.

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple should not make laptops easier to service. Making laptops easier to service makes laptops weaker and heavier. The unibody MacBook Pro with its lighter, stronger, and easier to service design compared to the original MacBook Pro is just an illusion.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

And speaking of the "late 1990s":

Nobody cares about preemptive multitasking or memory protection in Mac OS.

Nobody cares about dynamic memory allocation in Mac OS. Just click Get Info and change the number yourself.

Nobody needs more than 640K of memory. Oh, wait. That one is OK because it didn't come from a Mac user.
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post

Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.

Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.

Apple will not add copy and paste to the iPhone. Nobody cares about copy and paste.

Apple will not add multitasking to the iPhone. Nobody cares about multitasking.

Apple should not make laptops easier to service. Making laptops easier to service makes laptops weaker and heavier. The unibody MacBook Pro with its lighter, stronger, and easier to service design compared to the original MacBook Pro is just an illusion.

Apple will never switch to Intel processors.

All those things are progress in design and all expected, yet your posts never progress. Why is that? Try stepping into the 21st century, you may find you like it.
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All those things are progress in design and all expected, yet your posts never progress. Why is that? Try stepping into the 21st century, you may find you like it.

You speak of progress, yet it was people like you who were dismissing those very ideas and more when people first asked for them. Progress occurred despite the dismissive, know-it-all attitudes of people like you. So for you to lecture others on "progress in design" is laughable. Enjoy using System 7 while defending all its limitations. Still think the original MacBook Pro design cannot be improved upon? Why don't you take your own advice and "Try stepping into the 21st century"?
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You speak of progress, yet it was people like you who were dismissing those very ideas and more when people first asked for them. Progress occurred despite the dismissive, know-it-all attitudes of people like you. So for you to lecture others on "progress in design" is laughable.

I predicted everyone of the things you mention in your silly rebuttal, yet you say I stated the opposite. Go ahead and back up your claim with some proof since you are so sure that you have it. If you can prove it Ill buy you a laptop with a CD-ROm drive you can replace with a 2nd hard disk drive.
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I'm completely uninterested in the MacBook Pro line until the DVD drive is GONE.

Then, I'll be ready to buy my second MacBook Pro. Last one was the first one, 2006.
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Originally Posted by monstermac77 View Post

I haven't even read the article but I'm so excited just from the title. WAHOO! I've been checking five different rumors sites every hour for any update on the Macbook Pro. 17" i7 8GB maxed out here I come!

You took the words right out of my mouth
post #30 of 73
While Apple Store seems to be shipping MBPs as usual, all other retailers in Sweden are totally out of stock. Must be waiting for these.
post #31 of 73
I sure am looking forward to these.
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I don't care if the next MBP has a portrait of Jonathan Ive laser etched into the case or if it has five DVD drives, my late 06 2.33 15" MBP is basically at the end of its usefulness as a usable production tool. I need a replacement!

As soon as these things are announced, I'll be getting a 15" i7 with the best graphics card and SSD, and then promptly buying as much ram as I can from OWC.
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15" i7 with dual 512gb SSD running in RAID 0 (striped)
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Sounds like a standard annual upgrade before any transition to a MBA style next year? Was hoping they would make that jump now as I like the MBA but would prefer a 15" screen. Hope they tone down that glossy screen or develop a hybrid glossy/matte screen with less glare and make it 16:9. Wonder if they will keep/upgrade the MB?
post #35 of 73
Thank you. Last year the Intel chips were out in Jan and the MacBook Pros not until
April. Won't there be a similar time gap?


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Originally Posted by rjbruce View Post

Feb 20th is the consumer launch date. Most computer manufacturers get their chipsets beforehand.
post #36 of 73
17" ship time just changed on Australia store from 24hr to 4-6 business days. Even Apple are running out now! US store still says 24hr.
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Originally Posted by haruhiko View Post

the March 1st release window means that Apple is not using fixed chipset.

Which matters why?

The chipset provides a total of six SATA ports, of which four are potentially affected by this problem. That leaves two that are good, and MBPs only use two SATA ports: one each for the hard drive and the internal optical drive. There aren't even any connectors on the motherboard for the unused ports.

So why would anyone care?
post #38 of 73
Light Peak?

And I hope they don't go to a 128GB SSD like several other manufacturers have (*cough* Dell). I'm currently using just over 100GB on my main partition, plus a 20GB Windows partition; 128GB total would be too small.

- Jasen.
post #39 of 73
Where did that Haggar guy go? I’m waiting for him to copy/paste his post again because the change we want doesn’t jibe with the change he wants. I’m guessing that a smaller, lighter MBP with a longer battery life and option for no optical drive will happen and he’ll be saddened once again that Apple changed their product line… like they do every year.
post #40 of 73
If any Apple folks are lurking.....

We want MATTE SCREENS, pretty-please....

Love my pre-unibody Macbook Pro with matte screen. Hate to get a new one with a glossy screen. Working right now on my PC at work with an annoyingly glossy screen.
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