Originally Posted by Smallwheels
What's the point without Flash? At $800 it seems like a overpriced iPad. Who will buy these machines? I suppose only the Apple haters.
If Flash isn't enabled on other smart phones how are people experiencing Flash sites now? Since I don't own a smart phone I don't know.
The notion that Flash is universal is a myth that is simply regurgitated by those who do not like Apple/Steve Jobs.
Joomla, a CMS, used by millions all over the world, ships without any flash module in their layout. I use it, and I do not use flash in my sites. I believe many Joomla users do not use flash also in their created Joomla sites. The reason is simple, while Flash reader is free, you have to buy the expensive Flash application to create flash modules, assuming you know how to use the application. Or, you can afford to hire a flash developer.
Many of the "authoritative sites" that I visit -- can stand simply from their reputation do not use too many Flash to attract visitor. Just look at sites that are non-commercial.
Sometimes, text (not even images) is enough and they still attract hundreds of millions of visitor and make decent profit. Craigslist sites (found all over the world is a very good example), they are so profitable E-bay tried to gobble them up, when their own "Craigslist" clone site was not able to compete as well, in spite of Ebay cloned "flashy" site.
Wikipedia, the most widely read online encyclopedia does not use flash, and in fact do not even use too many images. Their site is not "flashy" (i.e. no whistles and bells) and mainly text.
As to mobile devices, any site creator is stupid if they create websites that is based solely on Flash with no alternatives for the hundreds of millions of iOS devices owners to view their site. A very good example is Google. It has created an alternative to Flash viewing of its YouTube. Many sites that know the buying power of those hundreds of millions of iOS owners have also converted their sites to provide alternatives to flash. Even the porn industry have embraced flash free sites -- early on.
As I noted in my other post, in my computer (not iOS) I have partially disabled flash, and the flash modules appear as "f" space. And it turned out, they are mostly those annoying "flashy" ads that slow down loading of a page. I have better overall experience (less slowdown) when I have dozens of browser windows open, and multiple applications. Battery drain is also not as fast.
As noted by others, it has been so many years since a Flash suitable for mobile devices was announced. Until now, flash is still a work in progress that even the flash advocates would not include in their own mobile devices.
There is also the rule of "lowest common denominator". Had Apple/Steve Jobs simply included flash, the history of updates and security leaks fixes of the Flash has not always been the best of the OS systems. Without up-to-date upgrade that can keep up with the annual update of Apple products, especially the iOS devices, the Apple products would be bogged down by the "obsolete" features of the Flash. Even if only out of spite, Steve Jobs has a reason and can do without flash, rather than the way around.
Adobe used to collaborate more with Apple, until it decided to embrace the Windows system. Since then, Adobe has neglected the upgrade of their products for Mac users, like myself. And when the upgrade is done, not only is it not on par with the Windows counterpart, the cost of the upgrade is very steep, just like many Adobe products. I know this from personal experience using another Adobe product (I had no interest in buying the Flash creator).
Finally, Flash is known to be buggy and has been used to piggy back malwares, and other malicious scripts.