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post #41 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:15pm
Maybe, just maybe, Apple has a little of its mojo back and will surprise all of us with the iPad 3 specs, delivered before anyone thought possible.

If I were Apple, I'd want to avoid the rage-induced upgrade psychosis and announce the iPad 2 (with retina display) to ship in X months. Then a price reduction on current models will keep everything flowing.

That's an aggressive prediction. More down to earth, I think we are going to get the confusing 1.5 and then september v2 introductions.
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post #42 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:20pm
If this is true, my emotions are but my wallet is
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post #43 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:23pm
I have information from a trusted source, that in 2014 apple gonna release a new macbook model.

There no detailed information yet... but its properly gonna have more ram, new intel cpu & longer battery life....
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post #44 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:26pm
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I have information from a trusted source, that in 2014 apple gonna release a new macbook model.

There no detailed information yet... but its properly gonna have more ram, new intel cpu & longer battery life....


I raise you with this prediction: in 2015, Apple will release a new macbook air model using ARM based processor, one of them new fangled memory that can work as DRAM or flash, full day battery.
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post #45 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:28pm
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If this is true, my emotions are but my wallet is

LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh. Struck me as funny as hell....

Diehards and techheads will always appreciate new kit from Apple, but knowing the September rumor might have some validity, you can imagine the mental turmoil.

An avid reader of AI who wants to upgrade but just can't, knowing something stunningly better might be just around the corner.

Imagine them holding that interim March iPad thinking, "I love you, but i'm not IN love with you..."
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post #46 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:31pm
How convenient that just as Apple is about to release the iPad 2 and updated MacBook Pro, a single source comes forward implying that the next version of both these products is the one you're really going to want to wait for. Sounds like a competitor doesn't want Apple to sell as many iPads and MacBook Pro's this year as they otherwise would.
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post #47 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:32pm
Bingo. Products releases are spread out over the year to sustain earnings. I can see Apple doing multiple iPad updates in the year if Apple is concerned with Android Tablets and it couldn't get all the features it wanted in this release.

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It's very easy to tell when a rumor is false. If it suggests that a new iPad will go widely on sale at the same time that a new iPhone will (June), you immediately know it is false. Apple has carefully crafted a quarterly schedule of product releases to ensure that corporate financials remain as steady as possible from quarter to quarter. Asking buyers to consider a new iPhone AND a new iPad in the same month is not going to happen, no matter how many other rumors suggest it might.

In all liklihood they will release what we all know they will release, in April, and then POTENTIALLY release a new iPad for the Christmas season, which Apple has generally ignored recently. They just can't not release anything new in April, and they can't possibly release a double resolution iPad this soon either.
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post #48 of 69
2/23/11 at 5:58pm
These ridiculous rumors and speculations are nothing more than pure rubbish coming from the demented minds of sad people who don't have the faintest clue. There will be no iPad3 in the fall. I'm glad that the clowns who are making these rumors are not in charge of Apple, because the company would be run into the ground in record time if the clowns were in charge. Apple is not like these other companies who are constantly releasing different versions of a product. Look at Samsung, they're releasing a 7", an 8", a 8.9" and a 10.1" tablet. Their strategy is to just throw shit at a wall, and hopefully some of it sticks.

As most of us know, Apple releases most of their products on a yearly schedule. Major revisions to a product take time to design, create and manufacture. Apple is not going to have a big press announcement on March 2, 2011 with them massively hyping the iPad2 and then turn around and release a whole new iPad3 in the fall. It is fundamentally bad business and it sounds downright dumb and amateurish. The iPad 2 will continue to sell well until the next one is released one year later. Expect the iPad3 in March or April of 2012. Don't listen to the clueless clowns.
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post #49 of 69
2/23/11 at 6:26pm
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Apple rumored to release 3rd iPad this winter, redesigned MacBook Pro in 2012

good grief, does the crack appleinsider journo team not have access to a dictionary to look up the word "this" and to an almanac from which to determine when is winter?

this winter ... as in between now and the first day of spring? really? and 2012? palin will be president and we'll all be dead (two unrelated events by the way) so who cares?
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post #50 of 69
2/23/11 at 6:29pm
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How convenient that just as Apple is about to release the iPad 2 and updated MacBook Pro, a single source comes forward implying that the next version of both these products is the one you're really going to want to wait for. Sounds like a competitor doesn't want Apple to sell as many iPads and MacBook Pro's this year as they otherwise would.

The funny thing is that the iPad 3 nonsense theory was the creation of John Gruber. His reasoning was flowed. He thought Apple want to move the iPad release schedule to match that of the iPod because then the iPad will be hot holiday item.

If Apple wanted to do that wouldn't a three or four months delay be more reasonable than releasing the same products within 5 months?! Right now the iPad controls the tablet market and I think Apple iPad can handle the competition for few more months with iOS 5 update this summer if Apple wanted to wait until September.

Of course the press along with Apple competitors loved the theory for obvious reasons.
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post #51 of 69
2/23/11 at 6:36pm
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I do think that moving the iPad inline with the iTunes/iPod event each Autumn makes some sense, but its tricky. Apple will have to force a lot of things to make that viable, like actually getting a much better display for that iPad, having it still perform well on the HW with good battery life, and have enough supply to actually meet the demand they are meeting now.

It does make some sense to move iPad launches to the iPod event especially as iPods lose their appeal to other mobile devices like the iPhone. However, I think that Apple's current strategy of spacing out their product announcements may be the better model - allowing each product some time in the spotlight.

I do think there is a chance that there will be a Retina Display iPad this fall (a one-time event) but I think it appears as a premium model which not only offsets the increased cost but will likely tamp down demand. But getting it out there would be an important milestone and, hopefully, by next March they would have the hi-rez display yields that they need in perfect time for their annual spring iPad event.
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post #52 of 69
2/23/11 at 7:12pm
Cannot help to think that a lot of the rumors are attempts at stock manipulation, even if there may be some underlying truths. As in, don't buy this iPad ot Macbook, because there may be a better one soon after. Because the truth of the matter is, there will always be a new version around the corner.
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post #53 of 69
2/23/11 at 7:15pm
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I don't want to worry you, but I heard a rumour (from a trusted source natch) that there are more rumours currently in production in Taiwan as we speak!

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post #54 of 69
2/23/11 at 7:33pm
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Seems very un-Apple like to release "interim" products used solely as stopgaps until better products roll around.

This to me is Apple feeling threatened by the competition and is now resorting to the same tactics people lambast Apple's competitors for in the first place: releasing crap first, good stuff later. Google is adept at this, releasing perpetually-in-beta products to give them time to create, if ever, version 1.0.

You are being critical of Apple for something it is rumoured they are going to do. As for Apple feeling threatened, I should hope the company does not grow complacent.
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post #55 of 69
2/23/11 at 7:40pm
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It does make some sense to move iPad launches to the iPod event especially as iPods lose their appeal to other mobile devices like the iPhone. However, I think that Apple's current strategy of spacing out their product announcements may be the better model - allowing each product some time in the spotlight.

Yeah, Im sure that is why they did it, but we cant ignore that the iPod is losing ground as a whole while the iPad will soon be Apples 2nd more profitable segment. Heck, even the AppleTV is growing at pretty fast rate that I think will really take off once off they get an SDK and App Store in place.
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post #56 of 69
2/23/11 at 8:05pm
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Yeah, Im sure that is why they did it, but we cant ignore that the iPod is losing ground as a whole while the iPad will soon be Apples 2nd more profitable segment. Heck, even the AppleTV is growing at pretty fast rate that I think will really take off once off they get an SDK and App Store in place.

The iPod is losing unit sale but not revenues. People are buying iPods because they are buying iPhones and the more expensive iPod touch. Think about it.. about 5% to 10% year over year decline in iPods unit sale while revenues grow.
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post #57 of 69
2/23/11 at 8:10pm
Glad they'll be moving to these "FFS" panel screens.
I really have trouble lining my head up for optimal viewing angle with a screen that I am holding in my hands.
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post #58 of 69
2/23/11 at 8:16pm
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Yeah, Im sure that is why they did it, but we cant ignore that the iPod is losing ground as a whole while the iPad will soon be Apples 2nd more profitable segment. Heck, even the AppleTV is growing at pretty fast rate that I think will really take off once off they get an SDK and App Store in place.

I expect the iPod event to become an iPod/aTV event. It would be a great time to also announce content deals although I would generally prefer content be announced as soon as it is available.

It will be interesting to see how much further erosion there is in iPod sales over the next year. I think Apple has its product lines set for the next 2-3 years so I don't really expect a major new product to scramble the product contributions, providing very clear visibility to what's growing and what's shrinking and how fast.
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post #59 of 69
2/23/11 at 8:44pm
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If its a different physical shape and internal design, then its a true second-gen in my view. More (mainly a retina display) may become practical later this year, and that would be great! But theres always something new coming along. That doesnt make all models interim."

If its the same old shape updated, with the same internals, then I WOULD call it an interim model.

Adding a retina display sounds more like an iPad 2.5, rather than this being an iPad 1.5. (And if that does happen, doing it for holiday shopping sounds better than doing in August/September for back-to-school. November might make sense. But Im sure it depends on when retina displays can be obtained cheaply enough, and in enough quantities.)

Agreed. However, Apple has never released products as late as November. They have always coincided with the Tech Conventions. Producing a new device that close to the holidays doesn't really garner huge profits. They need that extra 2 months to drum up some hype from earlier adopters so that there is a huge buzz for the holidays.
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post #60 of 69
2/23/11 at 8:48pm
You really shouldn't let people jerk your chain.

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Seems very un-Apple like to release "interim" products used solely as stopgaps until better products roll around.

Every product Apple has ever sold is a stopgap. In businesyou market what you are capable of shipping.
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This to me is Apple feeling threatened by the competition and is now resorting to the same tactics people lambast Apple's competitors for in the first place: releasing crap first, good stuff later. Google is adept at this, releasing perpetually-in-beta products to give them time to create, if ever, version 1.0.

Obviously you have never been involved in a business that creates new and novel devices. As far as I'm concerned the only critical things with iPad 2 is the RAM and the processor these both need updating. In fact the RAM should have been updated last fall. An iPad without a dual core Cortex A9 based SoC would be a failure.
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post #61 of 69
2/23/11 at 9:01pm
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Actually you're not that far off. Everyone will spew everything they can in the hopes something sticks. Then, in a few years when that product does have that feature, only because the tech and costs are finally feasable, these guys will come out of the woodwork to proclaim at the top of their lungs how spot-on their were in their predictions.

It's not a matter of "if" but "when" the iPad will have a retina-like display. It's just evolutionary.

Now... if I put on my tinfoil hat, a conspiracy could be said that the tablet competitors are purposely putting out false iPad rumors in the hopes everyone will hold off their Apple purchases.

I'm wearing the same tinfoil hat. But a conspiracy isn't necessary: the usual suspects will push these vapid rumors just for the click traffic.
"And just like that, everyone here realizes you're just another sweaty little Google licker with an axe to grind and no idea what he's talking about." --addabox
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post #62 of 69
2/23/11 at 9:55pm
It seems painfully obvious to me that this rumor is utter horseshi* that has clearly been fed to the rumor sites by people who are working on behalf of Apple's desperate competitors, and we are all empowering them by continuing to debate this as a possibility.

This is not a possibility. Let's collectively abandon this thread and move on to more productive endeavors shall we?
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post #63 of 69
2/23/11 at 10:11pm
People keep saying Ipad 3 but it's going to be a big Ipod Touch. Apple focuses on Ipod Touch in September so they are likely doing that mid-size Ipad Touch. That's how they will get the retina display at a somewhat affordable price.

Its either this or they are just flat out lying. Is there a way to get rid of the ipad glare?
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post #64 of 69
2/23/11 at 10:17pm
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People keep saying Ipad 3 but it's going to be a big Ipod Touch. Apple focuses on Ipod Touch in September so they are likely doing that mid-size Ipad Touch. That's how they will get the retina display at a somewhat affordable price.

Its either this or they are just flat out lying. Is there a way to get rid of the ipad glare?

I agree that a larger iPod Touch would be the way to introduce a mid-sized handheld computing device, and its only feasible way I see for Apple to push for Retina Display (300+ ppi) for another device size in 2011.
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post #65 of 69
2/23/11 at 10:18pm
iPad with FaceTime is cool and all. But it needs to work over 3G. They can build the coolest hardware in the world, but FaceTime will never win significant ground if it doesn't work ore 3G. And what was that about open standard?
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post #66 of 69
2/23/11 at 11:34pm
The MBP rumors seem to have a really got foundation... This so-called rumor certainly has nothing to do with "it doesn't seem to be redesigned this refresh, so it's got to be the next one then". -_-
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post #67 of 69
2/24/11 at 1:10am
I will be quite disappointed if today's MBPs are not a major revision. One of the things I admire about Apple is how aggressive and merciless they are at deploying new technologies and deprecating old ones, and I really hoped optical drives would be gone this round (or at least available only as BTO external USB). Though perhaps they want to wait until some of the more major apps hit the MAS.
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post #68 of 69
2/24/11 at 4:05am
For what my two cents is worthI believe this is going to be a lot bigger than rumours would lead us to believe. Tragically Steve may be less well than we'd like to believe; moving an event to coincide with his birthday isn't really Apple's style, kinda like the Borg acknowledging individuality. There seems to be a sense of urgency about this media event, especially given that the notification time frame was uncharacteristically short. The small stuff could be related to
(1) The minor chassis redesign to incorporate Light Peak--which will eventually be followed by deletion of all non-Light Peak I/Os within the next 2-3 years, making all such devices "legacy, which Apple or a third party will address by designing a rack into which all the legacy devices will plug with one thin cable for I/O and "juice" running from the rack to the laptop. Long term, that will free up internal space for more battery or weight reduction
(2) LiquidMetal chassis update which would decrease the weight and increase the strength of laptops
(3) Update of iMacs, PowerMacs and monitors
(4) Blah Blah about the iPad could be a big deal, BUT it will have to be something industry shaking

The timing is perfect for unleashing the North Carolina data centre with all kinds of wonderful capabilities and maybe even a proper Apple-branded TV
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post #69 of 69
2/24/11 at 4:16am
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deletion of all non-Light Peak I/Os

Needed to be done with this revision.

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LiquidMetal chassis update which would decrease the weight and increase the strength of laptops

People keep saying this, is it even possible?

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Update of iMacs, PowerMacs and monitors

Spring, Fall/Winter, and not at all; there's no reason and nothing to be updated, respectively.

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a proper Apple-branded TV

All I want is an Apple TV box that can take in 1080p content... and output 1080p content. Then I'll buy five of them. Leave the rest exactly as it is.

We're halfway there. Does anyone know if the jailbreakers have been able to output with this model?
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