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In Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, Apple has enhanced Spotlight search within Finder windows, while also adding new item arrangement view options to organize files within icon, list, column and Cover Flow views.

While Lion continues a trend toward user interface simplicity, it's still getting powerful new features. Among the improvements to the Finder are new search suggestions for refining queries, as well as ways to view items the file system.

The new features add functionality without additional complexity, allowing users for the first time to merge the organized groupings of items in list view with the easy to visualize icon view or the rapidly navigable column view that Macs inherited from NeXTSTEP.

Finder smart search

The Finder's integrated Spotlight search is getting smarter are more helpful, with queries providing related suggestions for narrowing a search. Search for "app" or "gif" and the Finder offers to show you just files of that type.




Search for "Microsoft" and it will offer to narrow your results down to specific Office file formats.



Search by a domain, such as "Apple.com," and you'll get the option to search for downloads from that site.



On page 2 of 2: Finder view organization.

Finder view organization

A new "item arrangement" view control in the Finder can group items by their file type kind, their primary application (default app that opens them), their modification or creation date or the date they were last opened or added, their file size, or their user assigned Finder label.

Within certain types of files, the selection changes to fit; when viewing applications, for example, the Finder presents an "Application Category" option, which groups apps by their Mac App Store category (such as Games, Internet, Media, Productivity, Utilities, or Other for unknown apps).

These organizations serve to integrate the traditional list view (which presents items with sortable columns of metadata) with either the classical Mac icon views (presenting boundaries between items' kinds, size, dates and labels), the NeXT-originated column view (similarly grouping items into related categories as selected by the user), the list view itself (creating a fixed grouping of items with the rest of their metadata also visible), and even Cover Flow, which merges the list view with a graphical representation.

Item arrangement popup menus

The popup control, adjacent to the view settings, changes depending on the files being arranged. On the left, general file arrangement options; on the right, arrangement options specific to viewing apps.



Item arrangement within icon view

When in icon view, the item arrangement control separates icons into rows of Cover Flow navigated items. Below are icon views arranged by file size, creation date, and app icons arranged by category.





On page 3 of 3: More Finder view organization: list, column and Cover Flow views.

Item arrangement within list view

In list view, item arrangement locks items into bucket groupings without column search, but still shows the normal metadata for the items. Below are list views arranged by file size, creation date, and app icons arranged by category.





Item arrangement within column view

In column view, item arrangement segments each column into groupings, with multiple columns each grouped as desired. A prominent preview is displayed in the final column. Below is a column views arranged by file size.



Item arrangement within Cover Flow view

In Cover Flow view, item arrangement segments each listing into the desired grouping, just like the normal list view, with a Cover Flow depiction on top. Below is a Cover Flow view of apps arranged by their category.

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In Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, Apple has enhanced Spotlight search within Finder windows, while also adding new item arrangement view options to organize files within icon, list, column and Cover Flow views.

Excellent stuff.

Most of what we've see so far seems very useful to me. get things done faster and simpler.

My only dislike is the look of some apps, eg. address book, ical in day-view.
looks twee and childish.
hopefully there will be an option to revert the appearance to SL style.
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I don't like that Apple has stripped the color out of all the sidebar icons. I don't like it in iTunes, and I don't like it in the Finder. Just another thing I'll have to patch all the time, I guess.
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The Cover Flow graphic on page 4 is a duplicate of the column view graphic. Oops.
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Not sure about all the integrated coverflow stuff. It looks ugly with the icons crowded on one side. It looks like the Finder has been in an accident. I'll have to try it though.

I wish Apple would implemented a Windows-style 'tile' view that has the preview and some information about the file in line. It's annoying that the only way to display information about a file is to use Get Info or Quicklook or select the file for a preview. I'd much rather have more information available in-line. If you're using Finder at all, chances are things like file size, the length of a video clip, the dimensions of an image, etc, are relevant to what you're trying to do.
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I'd much rather have more information available in-line. If you're using Finder at all, chances are things like file size, the length of a video clip, the dimensions of an image, etc, are relevant to what you're trying to do.

Try the Inspector (hold the option key while doing Get Info). It's probably exactly what you want.
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Try the Inspector (hold the option key while doing Get Info). It's probably exactly what you want.

Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the tip!

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I wish Apple would implemented a Windows-style 'tile' view that has the preview and some information about the file in line. It's annoying that the only way to display information about a file is to use Get Info or Quicklook or select the file for a preview. I'd much rather have more information available in-line. If you're using Finder at all, chances are things like file size, the length of a video clip, the dimensions of an image, etc, are relevant to what you're trying to do.

Doesn't Column View do this?
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Looks lik the new context aware search is a result of the Siri acquicision.
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I really don't like the cover flow. The icons, unlike those in iOS and album arts, have their own "3D" in it. Like the dictionary it portraits a dictionary which is 3D by itself. They are just trying to use the skewing in album art coverflow and bring it here? Doesn't look good to me.
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They are just trying to use the skewing in album art coverflow and bring it here? Doesn't look good to me.

Actually they did that a long time ago (in Leopard I think but that could have been SL)
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Doesn't Column View do this?

No, it only displays info on one file at a time, I'm talking about something between icon view and list view, where you get an icon large enough for a preview as well as limited metadata (file size, length if it's a song or video file, author, etc) for every file.
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I really don't like the cover flow. The icons, unlike those in iOS and album arts, have their own "3D" in it. Like the dictionary it portraits a dictionary which is 3D by itself. They are just trying to use the skewing in album art coverflow and bring it here? Doesn't look good to me.

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Actually they did that a long time ago (in Leopard I think but that could have been SL)

Nope, it was indeed Leopard. And I agree that Cover Flow doesn't look good at all with app icons, or really any OS X icons. Even document icons depict a folded-down corner, which, judging by its shadow, should stick out a bit when viewed on an angle. Same thing with the slightly-open folder icons. It instantly breaks the illusion of dimension and tangibility that those icons' designers have painstakingly crafted (and which Apple themselves say in the HIG is essential to the design of OS X icons).

Maybe...someday...we'll have 3D icons (and Macs fast enough that it won't matter that they're 3D), and they can come back to Cover Flow then if they're still enamoured with the idea. For now, though, I wish they'd smarten up, realize that it's a stupid gimmick that overstepped its bounds years ago, and "streamline" it straight out of the Finder.
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No, it only displays info on one file at a time, I'm talking about something between icon view and list view, where you get an icon large enough for a preview as well as limited metadata (file size, length if it's a song or video file, author, etc) for every file.

You can do that, might not be "exactly" but you can.

In a finder window, choose the icon view (scalable size to make them bigger if you want) and then bring up the context menu in the finder window. Select options for -display info- and if you want -show to right-.

If you want them to fit the window then choose -arrange by..-
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You can do that, might not be "exactly" but you can.

In a finder window, choose the icon view (scalable size to make them bigger if you want) and then bring up the context menu in the finder window. Select options for -display info- and if you want -show to right-.

If you want them to fit the window then choose -arrange by..-

I forgot you could put the labels on the right. Display info gives you very little information in Snow Leopard, unfortunately. Not sure if they've added more in Lion.
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All these new features in Lion are welcomed.

I'd like to see more expansion on spell checking to include grammar checking system wide.

The system wide spell checking could stand to be fix in the area of linking to the dictionary. At times I'll bring up the contextual menu and select the dictionary tool and the dictionary will pop-up but without the word I had selected. That used to work and now it does not. That was very valuable.

Safari needs improvement on running Javascript. I ran into many sites (e.g. careerbuilder.com) that are extremely slow on processing javascript. I've complained to Apple already on that.

All in all Lion will be welcomed.
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I don't like that Apple has stripped the color out of all the sidebar icons. I don't like it in iTunes, and I don't like it in the Finder. Just another thing I'll have to patch all the time, I guess.

You will be able to change those to anything you want with Candybar or by hand. I personally love it.

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It looks like lots of new arrangement options, but one option seems to be missing: arrange by NAME. Don't tell me Apple is removing that option (!). Sometimes Apple is too clever for its own good.
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Hooray for more date added functionality.

But hopefully they're working on getting find/spotlight results bit more comprehensive. I'm using Find Any File anytime I need to dig in to the library or system files. I know they don't want the average user messing around in there, but the option would be nice for admins.
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One more thing. I think the Aperture team should design the next Finder from the ground up. It needs to be a modern DAM tool, rather than the OS 9 gimp it is today.
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I don't like that Apple has stripped the color out of all the sidebar icons. I don't like it in iTunes, and I don't like it in the Finder. Just another thing I'll have to patch all the time, I guess.

Me too! Hate it!
BTW, the new Cover Flow is ugly! Look at the stacked icons 'waiting to be seen'. Doesn't make sense. And what about the colours on the list below. It used to be an alternate of blue & white. But now that too has been removed!
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Try the Inspector (hold the option key while doing Get Info). It's probably exactly what you want.

That shouldn't be hidden away like that!
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I really don't like the cover flow. The icons, unlike those in iOS and album arts, have their own "3D" in it. Like the dictionary it portraits a dictionary which is 3D by itself. They are just trying to use the skewing in album art coverflow and bring it here? Doesn't look good to me.

CoverFlow is pointless in the Finder. It's nothing more than a gimmick. Does anyone actually use it?
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document grouping in finder is something windows XP can do since ... 2001?

i am sorry, but i don't understand apple anymore. they are not making the new OS better, they make it worse. maybe we will one day end up having iOs on macs, and no more os x. i am suprised apple has not close the os x like they did in iOs.
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maybe we will one day end up having iOs on macs, and no more os x.

The crux of the Mac OS XI argument since 2003.

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i am suprised apple has not close the os x like they did in iOs.

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I have to agree with the poster above. I rarely, if ever use spotlight, simply because it lacks basic file info (and pressing Command I on every potential file to see 'where' it's located isn't useful.

I really wish they would include the ability to let you add/remove column so you could simply customize what information is displayed in the search results rather than offering more views with more of the same information. I don't need new ways to display it, but rather new ways to display new information like file path, dimensions for images, etc.
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Oh my God what a mess!

If I'm in Cover Flow view then why also display the text below it? It's merging Cover Flow with a list type view. It's redundant and does nothing to help me find an application! Plus it just needlessly eats up more system resources!

If a view is actually useful then it should stand on it's own merits. By also including a list view in the same window it's basically saying that Cover Flow is useless.
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I have to agree with the poster above. I rarely, if ever use spotlight, simply because it lacks basic file info (and pressing Command I on every potential file to see 'where' it's located isn't useful.

I really wish they would include the ability to let you add/remove column so you could simply customize what information is displayed in the search results rather than offering more views with more of the same information. I don't need new ways to display it, but rather new ways to display new information like file path, dimensions for images, etc.

Command + J gives you a few more choices.

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I think it's terrible how Apple are continuing toward the trend of having features appear from nowhere. It makes it very hard to discover what an app can do. In the example of search, and 'Advanced' button would be familiar to every computer user and you'd instantly know how to get to the extra search features, instead of starting the search, then having something else appear, but not necessarily what you wanted. A mess.

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I have to agree with the poster above. I rarely, if ever use spotlight, simply because it lacks basic file info (and pressing Command I on every potential file to see 'where' it's located isn't useful.

I really wish they would include the ability to let you add/remove column so you could simply customize what information is displayed in the search results rather than offering more views with more of the same information. I don't need new ways to display it, but rather new ways to display new information like file path, dimensions for images, etc.

Exactly.

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post #32 of 49
Will the Finder remember view settings for each window, or at least provide an option to do that automatically?

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews...-x-10-5.ars/12

See the video with the 2 folders, Folder A and Folder B.
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When you are in the comments page on an AI article, there should be a link to go back to the original article.
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I don't like that Apple has stripped the color out of all the sidebar icons.

I think I know why Apple has decided to do this.

It would be somewhat distracting to have colored icons in the sidebar competing for attention with the icons on the right, especially if you're dealing with smaller icons.

I'm not trying to invalidate your preference; just explaining why I think Apple made this design decision.
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THIS might be 'The Thing' I've been byatching about for few years

Returning us to 'Search/Result/Window' capabilities we had until 10.4

But again, probably took a while to now incorporate with Spotlight - intro'd in 10.5

And knowing OSX Finder's Relational Database is One Complicated Puppy™

Do it the Apple Way - Simple and Elegant

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Looking forward to a 'Test Drive'



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I have to say, I like the new Finder, a lot. I also like them taking out the color. Makes everything blend in more with the theme.

Coverflow, well, I never liked it since it first came out. I'm never gonna use it, and I am glad they are not pushing it, and providing newer ways of sorting my stuff in Finder.
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I don't like that Apple has stripped the color out of all the sidebar icons. I don't like it in iTunes, and I don't like it in the Finder. Just another thing I'll have to patch all the time, I guess.

I find it depressing and drab. What would be perfect is to just have the Sidebar icon that shows your location be bright and colorful so you can easily see where you are.

Which is better, this sidebar from iTunes 9:




Or this new "Lion-Like" sidebar from iTunes 10:



After I saw that, I uninstall iTunes 10 and have stuck with 9.
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Well I certainly hope you can sort search results by size. This is one of the stupidest things in the Finder right now.
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Anyone know the rationale behind icons not re-flowing to fit a window when you change its size? They stay where they are and move off screen. Any hope of that being changed in Lion?
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I find it depressing and drab. What would be perfect is to just have the Sidebar icon that shows your location be bright and colorful so you can easily see where you are.

Which is better, this sidebar from iTunes 9:




Or this new "Lion-Like" sidebar from iTunes 10:



After I saw that, I uninstall iTunes 10 and have stuck with 9.

The stripping of colour from the sidebar is to my mind a good example of style trumping usability. Yes it looks cleaner and less busy without those differently-coloured icons, but the colour of the icons was a visual cue that made it faster and easier find the icon you're looking for. It's not a big deal but it is a minor setback in usability, at least for me.
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