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post #41 of 49
3/9/11 at 8:18am
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Anyone know the rationale behind icons not re-flowing to fit a window when you change its size? They stay where they are and move off screen. Any hope of that being changed in Lion?

I'm certain it's just a bug.

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The stripping of colour from the sidebar is to my mind a good example of style trumping usability. Yes it looks cleaner and less busy without those differently-coloured icons, but the colour of the icons was a visual cue that made it faster and easier find the icon you're looking for. It's not a big deal but it is a minor setback in usability, at least for me.

All but three of them were blue. It's really no different.
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post #42 of 49
3/9/11 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I'm certain it's just a bug.

A bug? Its like that in every OSX release. If you look at Windows, if you have a folder full of pictures or something and you resize the window, the icons inside it will re-flow to fit the window perfectly. In OSX when you resize the window it leaves gaps or icons move off-screen.
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post #43 of 49
3/9/11 at 9:42am
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

A bug? Its like that in every OSX release. If you look at Windows, if you have a folder full of pictures or something and you resize the window, the icons inside it will re-flow to fit the window perfectly. In OSX when you resize the window it leaves gaps or icons move off-screen.

Not for me.

Screenshot?
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post #44 of 49
3/9/11 at 3:32pm
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A bug? Its like that in every OSX release. If you look at Windows, if you have a folder full of pictures or something and you resize the window, the icons inside it will re-flow to fit the window perfectly. In OSX when you resize the window it leaves gaps or icons move off-screen.

As part of the original Mac design, a window is a kind of "viewport" to content. In the case of the Finder the content is depicted by icons and the arrangement of the icons is left to the user. When you resize the window the icons don't move, only the view of those icons changes. That's the way it's supposed to be, because you (the user) owns the content. The system just displays it to you.

I believe that is also the default Windows behavior. However, Windows has a view always titled "Always Keep Arranged" that tries to fit the icons into whatever shape window you make.
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post #45 of 49
3/9/11 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Not for me.

Screenshot?

Just open a window in OSX full of pictures or documents or something in grid view and resize the window. The pictures/documents will stay in place no matter what the window looks like. chabig seeks to know what I mean.


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As part of the original Mac design, a window is a kind of "viewport" to content. In the case of the Finder the content is depicted by icons and the arrangement of the icons is left to the user. When you resize the window the icons don't move, only the view of those icons changes. That's the way it's supposed to be, because you (the user) owns the content. The system just displays it to you.

I believe that is also the default Windows behavior. However, Windows has a view always titled "Always Keep Arranged" that tries to fit the icons into whatever shape window you make.

In Windows 7 re-arranging them is the default behavior. Any way to turn that on in OSX? Despite having used it for years, I find it cumbersome behavior. Whatever metaphor you draw with me owning the content, I shouldn't have to perform additional actions just to see it properly.
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post #46 of 49
3/10/11 at 7:01am
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Just open a window in OSX full of pictures or documents or something in grid view and resize the window. The pictures/documents will stay in place no matter what the window looks like. chabig seeks to know what I mean.

It depends on your "Arrange by" settings for that window in View Options.

None means that the icons won't rearrange.
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post #47 of 49
3/10/11 at 8:42am
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Just open a window in OSX full of pictures or documents or something in grid view and resize the window. The pictures/documents will stay in place no matter what the window looks like. chabig seeks to know what I mean.

And I said that doesn't happen for me. They move when I resize the window.
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post #48 of 49
3/10/11 at 2:27pm
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And I said that doesn't happen for me. They move when I resize the window.

You probably have different View Options.
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post #49 of 49
10/12/11 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

Just open a window in OSX full of pictures or documents or something in grid view and resize the window. The pictures/documents will stay in place no matter what the window looks like. chabig seeks to know what I mean.

In Windows 7 re-arranging them is the default behavior. Any way to turn that on in OSX? Despite having used it for years, I find it cumbersome behavior. Whatever metaphor you draw with me owning the content, I shouldn't have to perform additional actions just to see it properly.

This was driving me absolutely insane... but I have finally figured it out!
Follow these steps:

1. Open your window with your pictures in that are going off screen.
2. Press and hold down the option / alt key (this is important that you do this BEFORE AND WHILST doing step 3
3. On your menu bar go to View > Sort By > Snap To Grid (this option doesn't show without holding down the alt / option key beforehand)
4. Without holding down the option / alt key go back to View > Arrange By > Name

That's the only way I've sussed how to do it, and you have to redo that for every window.
If anyone finds a better way please enlighten me :-)
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