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Originally Posted by samab View Post

Where did it say that? I didn't see it.

It was in the first line of the 3rd paragraph, but it appears to have been edited since I posted the link.
post #122 of 411
old iPad dropped $100

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...clearance/ipad
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

I hoped for thunderbolt too.

Though... I am curious how they did an iPad 30 pin connector (with 2 free pins) to an HDMI 19 pin connector -- and have pins left over for concurrent charging and syncing.

Charging and syncing is done over a 4 pin USB connection. 19+4 < 30
post #124 of 411
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Originally Posted by IKnowThat2 View Post

No 4G support (Need new iPad3 for that,spend more money on i*!!!, LOL)
No Flash(Expected),but really need for pc/tablet experience
No SD Slot

Actually none of those are functional in the current version of the Xoom. They claim that the last two will be enabled later on with software updates and the first added somehow (?) but I have to be skeptical of any device that ships with things like that not working.
post #125 of 411
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Pretty much what was expected" - An incremental 'Update'.

It would have been nice to have:

- A higher resolution display
- A bump to 128gb at the high end
- Higher resolution cameras
- Built-in Stereo speakers
- An SDHC/XC card slot for transferring pictures etc.
- A dock port that allows the connector to sit flush writhe the device.
- A design that didn't force one to buy all new cases/accessories.

Overall, this really is what the device should have been at the beginning, and I'm sure it will sell very well.

I don't know why people want useless features, 128 GB and a card slot. I guess we could always add a floppy drive. What use is a card slot? Especially, when you have the cloud. I can put anything I want on DropBox or iDisk and grab it from every computer at my house or I can transfer it to a card and then take it to every computer. Welcome to the future.....
post #126 of 411
Gotta say having separate models for AT&T and Verizon is the one truly negative thing about iPad 2. When you buy a portable "computer" you should be able to use it with any wireless provider.

As an astute friend of mine said this morning, CDMA isn't a technology it's a business model into which customers are locked.
post #127 of 411
Personally, I only have ONE disappointment, which is that GPS chips are still exclusive to the 3G models. I was hoping they'd throw them in as default, as I would use the GPS for nav apps but have no need for 3G. Ah well. Everything else looks absolutely phenomenal, actually a more significant update than I was expecting. The case/cover is just delightful and unexpected.
post #128 of 411
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

The aluminum back is far more sensitive to scratches than glass so they make a case that covers the tough material and leaves the soft one completely exposed

Seriously? You think it's more important to protect the back of the device that you NEVER look at than the SCREEN that you ALWAYS look at?

I'm almost surprised you're not complaining that they don't sell a case for the case, so the case doesn't get scratched...
post #129 of 411
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Originally Posted by MyDogHasFleas View Post

subquestion 1: with an old VGA adapter
subquestion 2: with the new digital video adapter (HDMI)


http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC...co=MTc5OTU4MjA

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Apple Digital AV Adapter
Put your slides, movies, photos, and everything else that fills your iPad 2 screen on an even bigger screen — your HDTV. The Apple Digital AV Adapter mirrors exactly what you see on iPad 2 so that everyone in the room can enjoy it on your widescreen TV, video projection screen, or other HDMI-compatible display. The Apple Digital AV Adapter also supports video out for iPad, iPhone 4, or iPod touch (4th generation).

i highlighted the important part...
post #130 of 411
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Originally Posted by dimitrir View Post

Very disappointing - not nearly as good as Motorola Xoom.

It looks like 2011 will be a year of Android tablets after all.

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post #131 of 411
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post

According to Ars, the new iPad has 512MB RAM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...resolution.ars

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Originally Posted by samab View Post

Where did it say that? I didn't see it.

Neither did I. Maybe they had it in initially and then removed it because it wasn't confirmed? In any event, the amount of RAM is still up in the air.

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post #132 of 411
The fact that the 'A5' is dual-core is good enough for me. The iPad 2 will be plenty fast. But the hardware geek in me wants his curiosity filled. I want to know all the details of what's in that chip!

post #133 of 411
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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

Personally, I only have ONE disappointment, which is that GPS chips are still exclusive to the 3G models. I was hoping they'd throw them in as default, as I would use the GPS for nav apps but have no need for 3G. Ah well. Everything else looks absolutely phenomenal, actually a more significant update than I was expecting. The case/cover is just delightful and unexpected.

Agreed - I'd love to dash mount an iPad 2 for GPS primarily, but media center as well. Guess we'll have to wait one more time!

The Smart Cover is awesome though - I'm really digging them, trying to get all the info I can about them. I wonder how long it will be until a third party tries to copy...
post #134 of 411
Why are there two 3G versions? So you're locked into the carrier? I though the iPad1 works on either Rogers/Bell, hope it's the same case for ipad2.
post #135 of 411
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

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Apple’s iPad 2 Is About to Enter a Crowded Field

http://www.eweek.com/


Yeah there's some serious delusions in this article. The market of comparable products is certainly not very crowded, their sales are not even approaching 1 million and the rest of the "crowded market" are announced and maybe demoed devices. He seems to be counting tablets that have been showN OFF AT CES that won't be out for months yet. It was a funny read tho, thx
post #136 of 411
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Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post

Yikes. I hate carrying bags of connectors cables and dongles, and even more so with an ultra-portable.

Am I missing something? Are you going to carry a TV or extra monitor round with you or something. You need an HDMI output to monitor, correct? Keep one at home and easy to grab when you're going to use it on another monitor.

Out and about, it comes fully equipped as an ultra-portable. No need of any cord of any type with a ten hour battery.

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post #137 of 411
Does anyone know if the stores will have the iPad 2 on March 11 in the US?
post #138 of 411
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Originally Posted by minderbinder View Post

Seriously? You think it's more important to protect the back of the device that you NEVER look at than the SCREEN that you ALWAYS look at?

I'm almost surprised you're not complaining that they don't sell a case for the case, so the case doesn't get scratched...

I owned an iPad for a few months, without a case, and when I sold it there wasn't a single visible scratch on the aluminum, even though I constantly threw it in a bag, etc. If you're reasonably careful with it, ie. not slide it over other metallic objects, then it's not too tough to keep it scratch free.
post #139 of 411
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Originally Posted by Tomsop View Post

I am confused about availability on 3/11 or ability to order beginning 3/11 and does that mean to be the first you have to wait in a long line at the Apple Store?

So do I because November seems a long time to wait for it's release.

P.S. in our date format it's 11/3
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post #140 of 411
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Originally Posted by IKnowThat2 View Post

Is this game by apple for apple fanboys so they keep spending money for some smaller updates???
RAM is only 512MB compared to 1GB for Xoom.(This may limit/control future iOS upgrade for sure)

Are you aware of how frequently Android devices get OS updates? Oh my sides hurt! Try putting Android 3.0 on a Galaxy Tab! And as if Xoom is going to be around for longer than the HP Slate PC! Hilarity!

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No 4G support (Need new iPad3 for that,spend more money on i*!!!, LOL)

"4G" is marginally faster 3G data service that isn't availably in many places and is expensive. Even so, if you have an iPad, you're probably going to be connecting via your iPhone or WiFi, because paying for a data subscription on each device is rather silly and expensive. But, if you buy that Xoom you can send it in for a WEEK for an upgrade! Hilarious.

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No USB

Yeah, just like the iPod and iPhone don't have USB, unless you know how to plug it in.

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No Flash(Expected),but really need for pc/tablet experience

Who wants a PC experience? Ha you're too funny. Yes there are a few sites with Flash animation or ads on them, but that will evaporate fast now that 95% of tablets only support modern HTML5. And have you used Flash on Android? Clearly you haven't or you wouldn't be snorting about how useful it is.

[QUOTE]No SD Slot[QUOTE]

Might have been nice, but there's a camera connector, making this rather desperate criticism.

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Display resolution inferior to Xoom

Hilarious! Yes you can pay $800 to have a small handheld TV, but that's all you can do with it. I'd prefer a 50" plasma to passively watch movies. For a tablet, I'd rather have something with apps.

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No Widgets which are much more usable for tablets.
Extra money for HDMI adapter while is is part of Xoom
Display resolution is still same as iPad1!!

All features like Duel processor, front/rear camera, Gyro, HDMI, USB, Flash support,
Widget support, 1GB RAM,SD Card slot to expand memory,4G support, better resolution display are already part of Xoom.

No wonder it is $79 chceaper then Xoom, add all cost up and Xoom will come out cheaper and better then iPad2($39 just for hdmi adapter, LOL)

Looks like Motorola is going to make at least one sale! At least if you put your $800 where your mouth is. You'll be monitoring which Android apps to kill to make the UI sort of responsive as you watch tormented movies in WebM -- ON YOUR TV, using a cable, to take advantage of that great build in HDMI jack.

Fun Stuff!!! Google is so great. Too bad there's no apps and the hardware sucks and malware/spyware.
post #141 of 411
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

So do I because November seems a long time to wait for it's release.

P.S. in our date format it's 11/3

I assume by 'our' you mean American? day/month/year is the standard way of doing it most places.
post #142 of 411
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

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Apples iPad 2 Is About to Enter a Crowded Field

http://www.eweek.com/

Wow, just wow. Maybe it would be a good idea if tech writers were forced to go through a licensing process so idiots like the one at eWeek couldn't pollute the Internet.
post #143 of 411
Not enough improvement for me to give up my ipad 1 3g/64. I guess I will be waiting for the iPad 3.

I really wish Apple would have increased the resolution and added 4G support.
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post #145 of 411
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Originally Posted by dimitrir View Post

Very disappointing - not nearly as good as Motorola Xoom.

It looks like 2011 will be a year of Android tablets after all.

Why do I bother with the Trolls???

How exactly is the Xoom so much better?

The processors are comparable at least, and the iPad 2 processor will probably perform better than the Tegra 2.
No word on memory on the iPad 2 yet, but it's either going to be 512MB or I would think 1GB which would be a match for the Xoom.
Display resolution is almost the same, only a slight edge for the Xoom.
Camera specs aren't out yet, but I would guess they will be a wash.
The price is comparable for the same storage footprint, so that's only the slightest edge for the Xoom also.

How about quality? I know that Motorola has had numerous dubious products in the past, and Apple has also had issues but I would definitely give Apple the edge there.
How about applications? The App Store offers over 350k apps.

So I guess the $30 price difference, Flash support, and miniscule display resolution advantage is what makes the Xoom so very much better. Have fun.
post #146 of 411
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Originally Posted by cybervex View Post

Not enough improvement for me to give up my ipad 1 3g/64. I guess I will be waiting for the iPad 3.

I really wish Apple would have increased the resolution and added 4G support.

Well at least you don't have to get rid of your first one so quickly. Enjoy it for another year, save some money. It's still good.
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post #148 of 411
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Except it's the exact opposite of what Apple has been trying to tell users for years: "your (iPhone/iPod/iPad) screen doesn't need a cover".

The aluminum back is far more sensitive to scratches than glass so they make a case that covers the tough material and leaves the soft one completely exposed

Overall it's quite an impressive upgrade, although extremely lame that they went with the same crappy cameras as last year's iPod touch.

I'll never buy one because the price/performance/size thing doesn't work for me, but I expect it to sell extremely well to other people.

My guess is this has to do witn the much thinner glass. Dropping it without the protecting cover would increase tne likelyhood of breaking it compard with the original. Smart move, I'd say.
post #149 of 411
Samsung, Motorola and RIM are stressed today. Especially RIM who will soon deliver a competing product that will be slower, heavier, thicker, more expensive and have no apps.

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post #150 of 411
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Pretty much what was expected" - An incremental 'Update'.

It would have been nice to have:

- A higher resolution display
- A bump to 128gb at the high end
- Higher resolution cameras
- Built-in Stereo speakers
- An SDHC/XC card slot for transferring pictures etc.
- A dock port that allows the connector to sit flush writhe the device.
- A design that didn't force one to buy all new cases/accessories.

Overall, this really is what the device should have been at the beginning, and I'm sure it will sell very well.

I think they should at least have built in dolby surround 5.1 with buildin speakers and subwoofer evrything detatchable with retractable 10m cords. Plus an inflatable 30" touch screen. the whole thing ought to be self concious and help you with your loudry.
post #151 of 411
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Let the bitching begin...

It doesn't matter, someone is always not happy. Some people just like to complain about something.
post #152 of 411
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Originally Posted by peteo View Post

I think that might be a good idea, the only thing you will really be missing is GPS. The wifi version does not come with GPS, so if you are hiking (i do this allot with my iPad 1) or out with your iPad you will not see your location. Now the wifi version can use Wifi geo-location to find where your iPad is but I'm not sure if this will work with the personal hot spot feature and if you have no wifi connection then you will have no location info

There is a blue tooth gps product that does work with the iPad & ipod though. its $100

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004M3BICU

Pardon, but if you're teathering with your iPhone 4 then couldn't you just check your phone for the GPS location?

Food for thought!
post #153 of 411
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Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

Overall looks great, but still a few unanswered questions:

512MB or 1GB Ram?
Any improvement on the display?
Resolution of front facing camera?

Why is the RAM size important to you? Are there programs today that you can't run in the current iPad's RAM space?
post #154 of 411
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

That's a cute video for the smart cover.
But what are we supposed to do with it when holding the iPad during use?

The new cover folds back when open so the iPad 2 can be held open with one hand (the cover is magnetic).

What I am STILL missing is a dedicated GPS chip! I'm a geologist and without GPS the iPad for me is not very useful. Given all of the apps the iPhones have that use GPS - this is a real let down for the iPad 2.
post #155 of 411
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Originally Posted by IKnowThat2 View Post

Is this game by apple for apple fanboys so they keep spending money for some smaller updates???
RAM is only 512MB compared to 1GB for Xoom.(This may limit/control future iOS upgrade for sure)
No 4G support (Need new iPad3 for that,spend more money on i*!!!, LOL)
No USB
No Flash(Expected),but really need for pc/tablet experience
No SD Slot
Display resolution inferior to Xoom
No Widgets which are much more usable for tablets.
Extra money for HDMI adapter while is is part of Xoom
Display resolution is still same as iPad1!!

All features like Duel processor, front/rear camera, Gyro, HDMI, USB, Flash support,
Widget support, 1GB RAM,SD Card slot to expand memory,4G support, better resolution display are already part of Xoom.
No wonder it is $79 chceaper then Xoom, add all cost up and Xoom will come out cbetter then iPad2($39 just for hdmi adapter, LOL)

The xoom is missing 65000 apps.

Frankly the xoom hasn't a hope.
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post #156 of 411
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Why do I bother with the Trolls???

How exactly is the Xoom so much better?

The processors are comparable at least, and the iPad 2 processor will probably perform better than the Tegra 2.
No word on memory on the iPad 2 yet, but it's either going to be 512MB or I would think 1GB which would be a match for the Xoom.
Display resolution is almost the same, only a slight edge for the Xoom.
Camera specs aren't out yet, but I would guess they will be a wash.
The price is comparable for the same storage footprint, so that's only the slightest edge for the Xoom also.

How about quality? I know that Motorola has had numerous dubious products in the past, and Apple has also had issues but I would definitely give Apple the edge there.
How about applications? The App Store offers over 350k apps.

So I guess the $30 price difference, Flash support, and miniscule display resolution advantage is what makes the Xoom so very much better. Have fun.

Xoom is comparable, but the webOS tablet coming out seems a bit more appealing, but only in terms of software. WebOS just seems perfect for a tablet.

Xoom is more expensive also, isn't it?

Either way, this isn't a big enough leap to keep Apple as far ahead as they have been. We all knew this day would come, which is what Apple is so wonderful for: They keep everyone else working hard.

If this summer really does go to Android, that just means the iPad 3 will be that much better. The guy wasn't trolling btw.
post #157 of 411
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Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post

Yikes. I sure hope iOS 5 has some major improvements to keep people happy until iPad 3 comes out.

Also, HDMI with a special $39 connector? How is that slick, convenient, or a good user experience. I hate carrying bags of connectors cables and dongles, and even more so with an ultra-portable.

Airplay.

Really you at least need an HDMI cable if you're traveling and want to output it to a hotel TV, and you can't always count on a business having a spare HDMI cable laying around since VGA is the most ubiquitous, followed by DVI, whats a 2 inch adapter on the end going to matter?
post #158 of 411
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Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post

Yikes. I sure hope iOS 5 has some major improvements to keep people happy until iPad 3 comes out.

Also, HDMI with a special $39 connector? How is that slick, convenient, or a good user experience. I hate carrying bags of connectors cables and dongles, and even more so with an ultra-portable.

Dude, doesn't matter if the iPad had a separate micro-HDMI port on it - you'd still need a cable!

Having HDMI come out of the dock connector is fine. You'll be carrying a cable either way. Apple is not going to give up the dock connector. It supports an ecosystem of over 200 million devices, and even more peripherals. Get used to it. No competitor even comes close. Apple gave us the HDMI output we've been wanting. Stop complaining.
post #159 of 411
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

The display is stunning, what needs to be changed about it?

One rumour was that the glass would be less reflective than the first version.
post #160 of 411
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Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

The xoom is missing 65000 apps.

Frankly the xoom hasn't a hope.

60,000 of which all do the same damn thing.

How many apps does one REALLY need? Personally, anytime I think of a way to use my phone, there's been an app in the market place to help me accomplish my goal.

After a while, it just gets redundant, and Android's market place is healthy enough that your argument is invalid
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