Apple announces iPad 2 with new design, faster A5 processor - Page 11

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There are a few channels where the clone tabs are likely to do well in spite of your being right on the merits - the ones that are going to subsidize 'em: cellco stores, websites and kiosks - including the companies that Apple doesn't have agreements with.

Crowded superstore sections soon to be devoted to tabs will be another place where the sales help will often be clueless and point unsophisticated customers towards 'em.

It was a technology demo showing their OS. The game will ship with pause on swipe up as default. Game developers ain't going to ship their games with the game continuing on swipe up --- because your character would die.

Now Apple has published what is iPAD2. The media has been busy indeed, trying to be the first to get specs right. But that doesn't seem to quiet the continuing I wish it had a Retina Display, Works on 4G network, and also Flash. Also the Camera's need to be the quality of a Canon professional camera and I want to be able to replace my high performance MBP or x86 power house computer so I can run Final Cut, Aperture and on and on.

What these would-be designers don't realize is they also want 10 hours of operational time. With a little digging I found that those who want 4G speeds also find their batteries get less than 2 hours of use before they have to be recharged ... Same with Flash and retina display would take a lot more processor and graphic support not to mention more Ram, that Apple doesn't feel the need to announce. And of course, you all want this for a lower price, with more SSD storage.

Funny thing a lot of comparison are with XOOM. They haven't even shipped 4G or flash capability. Yes, the offer pc like multitasking... and they need all the extra memory to accomplish that with considerable more operational complexity and isn't even close to intuitional like the terrific iPAD is. Even Grandma and youngsters can readily use an iPAD. Give them a XOOM and watch how it would be received.

Also all the 60,000 apps for iPAD work, and work well with over 15 million units sold to date. With Android, every manufacturer tweaks the apps and there is no universal compatibility. Apple developers have received over $2 million in compensation for their efforts. Ask an Android developer how much he/she is receiving.

So forget iPAD3 ... it isn't going to happen in 2011... why should it. Just go buy an iPAD2 and enjoy twice the processor performance and 9 times the graphic performance over the original iPAD. Also enjoy the thinner, and lighter weight iPAD2 and the gorgeous designed cover with clever on/off action.

Your wants, hates, and I wishes are not going to change this year's beautiful upgrade.

LOL

There is some reason to believe that an analyst from the orient has it right. Time will tell.

This analyst says the iPAD2 has 512 MB with LPDD2 ram. This is low power higher performance ram that runs faster... thereby moving data quicker ... 1066 mhz/sec instead of 800 mhz/sec on the original iPAD. In some circles this would be called 4 times the performance.

Also realize that iOS does not operate like x86 OS... so it doesn't need a lot of ram. Also realize that Thunderbolt will not be part of iPAD as the processor is not PCI express oriented.

The gamers should be happier with 9 times graphics performance, twice the processor performance and now 4 times the ram performance (if this spec is actually true).

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It doesnt have to be to allow Apple to make a cable and connections for it since Thunderbolt is protocol independent. They can still utilize the higher wattage and data stream afforded by the future forward Thunderbolt connection. Do you really think Apple is investing in this technology and has no plans to ever move past USB2.0 for syncing and charging?

IPAD is now approved for Airplane pilot's charing and log books. Go iPAD

The screen resolution has not changed from iPAD (original) ... refresh rates are up by 9x ... mirroring is now available thru add-on connector to TV or projector ... great for presentations. Added two great app improvements, GarageBand, and iMovie. iOS4.3 brings forth additional magic.

Either get over it or just be bummed as you mentioned.

The Thunderbolt controller is PCI express technology dependent ... the ARM processor and iPAD system structure are entirely different. You will not be seeing Thunderbolt technology in iPAD anytime soon. It is much more likely to see everything going wireless in terms of data transfer vs hard wire. The biggest challenge with wireless is power distribution.

iPAD3 is vaporware for this year. You will see software upgrades ... iOS4.3 has a lot of goodies included. Screen resolution is the same as iPAD ... as you know dual core, better graphics 9x, if the analyst from the orient is correct, ram is 512, LPDD2 which runs at 1066 mhz/sec vs 800 mhz/sec on the original iPAD. This kicks data thru put by a factor of 4. Pretty nice upgrade. iOS does multitasking differently than x86. Safari is twice as fast also.

They already have by $100 ... run fast while they're still available. Production has switched to iPAD2. Of course you can by and iPAD used from someone upgrading to iPAD2 perhaps.

Are you aware that iPad is not an ACRONYM? Whats with all the CAPITALIZATION?

Same reason people spell it MAC.

I'm far more concerned about the quintuple posting. Please edit existing posts and use multiquote instead of posting multiple times in a row.

Good summary of res and refresh except the omission of 1080p out via HDMI cable, so you can see your iPad's output on many screens, including at 1920x1280 (which is beyond mirroring) - tho' likely only material encoded for that res (???) like video, as I doubt there's anything like the tech an "upscaling DVD" uses. (Or is there?)(And not sure if the material will be mirrored when a 1080p movie's being output to an HDTV [??]). Damn, set out to help complete an answer and ended up asking four new questions.... ...oh well.....


Re: wireless power distribution being a big challenge, again, I could be missing an issue, but I imagine such a future iPad would to no more sophisticated than a 10 year old cordless toothbrush with a no plug cradle to make that work. So I'm betting the company that's reinvented personal computing, smart phones and tablets is up to that one if they wanna be. And I've recently saw that at least one big company is already offering inductive charging on a wireless device by simply resting it on a charge pad. (Think it was Dell or HP?)

As for TBolt being somewhere in the iPad's future, I made the same point earlier in the thread and had the exchange below. I don't think you guys disagree exactly, but he seems more optimistic about the possibilities - and I don't think we'll have 100 GBS or even 10 GBS wireless for just a bit - so if he's correct, it might well be worth doing:

This is even remotely viable I would expect to see it on the iPod lone first, starting with the smaller models and movign upwards due to their small batteries. I cant imagine something like the iPad with a 25W battery being viable for inductive charging for many years. Even now charging over the 5W USB in MBPs is inadequate for decent charging times, hence the inclusion of the external PSU and most likely, the introduction of Thunderbolt.


You guys are misunderstanding what it means to have Thunderbolt on a host PC. It doesnt mean that every device you connect it to has to have an x86 chip in it. Just look at the external HDDs with Thunderbolt that have been announced. It doesnt even mean that it has to have PCI as the accessory can still use some other protocol, like USB or FireWire, over that cable. All the Thunderbolt connector on a host PC will do is open up the doors to much faster connectivity and power for accessory devices. That means you will be able to connect an iPads 30-pin connector to a cable with a the iPod Dock Connector on one end and Thunderbolt/DP port at the other end to get 10W power supplied to it (2x charging rate) and faster syncing over a variety of protocols that Apple deems best.

In all seriousness do you really think Intel designed the next generation connector and made it so limited that ONLY devices with both an X86 chip AND a PCI connector could possibility benefit from it? What consumer purpose would that have?

Dont get hung up on the connector type or the spec sheet, just remember that its offers twice the power and is protocol independent. Thunderbolt is big news and will be creeping into the rest of the Mac line and other vendors products shortly. This has already been written and Intel already provides controllers for peripherals to offload onto Thunderbolt to be handled by the host machine. When you consider how long the iPad 2 was likely in production before Intel had got denied by the USB-IF to use the USB port interface, and that the iPhone 5 is still the flagship iDevice it makes sense that the iPad 2 doesnt have Thunderbolt capabilities, but that doesnt mean its not possible for Thunderbolt to ever be used with a peripheral that doesnt have an x86 chip in it.


PS: Youre agreeing with someone who thinks iPad is an acronym so you should take that into consideration.

Except that it wasn't a good summary at all. The refresh rate of the iPad 2 has not changed. It is still 60hz.

So is this an SGX543MP2, do you think? If they say 9x the performance of the first iPad, and the 543 single chip is 4.5 times as powerful according to Imagination, the MP2 seems to fit the bill.