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post #81 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I disagree. I'll be buying one but I find the iPad 2 and the whole event to be underwhelming at best.

Did you find the introduction of the Playbook or Xoom to be more whelming?

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Did anyone catch whether they even included the multi-tasking gestures? I'm so very very tired of double-clicking that home button fifty or sixty times a day.

That would come in a major OS update. Likely iOS 5.0
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post #82 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by photoeditor View Post

... Can it properly run Keynote through a VGA adapter on an LCD projector? Can it handle Aperture or indeed any kind of raw photo file through an Aperture-compatible module? Can I compute on it adequately or will I need at least an 11 inch Macbook Air? ....

the answers are:

-yes (iPad 1.0 could do this)
-no (MacBook Air could technically handle Aperture files but only a fool would bother trying)
- depends on whatever subjective thing you mean by "adequate"
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post #83 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

At the same price points? Get real.

No one else can match the iPad 1 a year later or have 128GB yet he claims, in his allknowingness, that this is what the original iPad should have been in for 2010. Love to hear the crazies back up that logic.
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post #84 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:56am
Same old apple......

Beautiful hardware.... Shame about the ios software. Still just a glorified app launcher. Still you can't blame them for playing to their strengths
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post #85 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post

Yikes. I sure hope iOS 5 has some major improvements to keep people happy until iPad 3 comes out.

Also, HDMI with a special $39 connector? How is that slick, convenient, or a good user experience. I hate carrying bags of connectors cables and dongles, and even more so with an ultra-portable.

Sure, but what is the alternative? You want HDMI, but someone else will want VGA to connect to their office projector. Add in a SD slot to make the photographers happy. But then we still need USB for those of use with cameras that take compact flash or to connect the keyboard. I'd love to not have to deal with adaptors, but which set of ports would they include without upsetting some portion of customers? The dock connector seems the best compromise. The only drawback is there is only one. So you can't, for example, charge the iPad while your downloading photos from your camera. Separate charing port would be nice...but there we go again adding more ports to it.
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post #86 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:57am
I have an AT&T iphone 4. I'm planning on getting an iPad2. I'm wondering if I should save some bucks and get the iPad2 without 3G, and use the wifi hotspot from the iphone when I'm traveling and want the ipad to access the net.

I don't think I'll go that route, but its worth considering. Anybody have any thoughts?
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post #87 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Who else do you see offering these specs at $499?

Motorola, but you need to send them back the device for them to add it for undisclosed amount

Xoom just landed in moon.
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post #88 of 417
3/2/11 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post

According to Ars, the new iPad has 512MB RAM
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...resolution.ars

Where did it say that? I didn't see it.
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post #89 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Did you find the introduction of the Playbook or Xoom to be more whelming? ...

No. I don't think the Playbook will ever even ship in any kind of numbers before the inevitable collapse of RIM, and the Xoom is a niche product IMO.

Even if the Xoom "suceeds" it's not something that regular consumers are even interested in. The iPad has huge appeal amongst techies but also across the board. Everyone from your Mum to a Unix tech wants one. Xoom might sell well among the male, angry, 20 something geek market but that's pretty much it.
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post #90 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by CIM View Post

iPad 2 spells doom for the Xoom (and all other tablets shipping this year).

boom.
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post #91 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:04pm
Same old apple......

Beautiful hardware.... Shame about the ios software. Still just a glorified app launcher. Still you can't blame them for playing to their strengths.

Oh and I expect you still have to plug it into itunes all the bloody time and to even activate it. Can someone explain the logic behind buying a tablet to replace your laptop (as both my parents did and many others) yet you still can't even start using it until you have plugged it into a boring old conventional computer?!
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post #92 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by IKnowThat2 View Post

Is this game by apple for apple fanboys so they keep spending money for some smaller updates???
RAM is only 512MB compared to 1GB for Xoom.(This may limit/control future iOS upgrade for sure)
No 4G support (Need new iPad3 for that,spend more money on i*!!!, LOL)
No USB
No Flash(Expected),but really need for pc/tablet experience
No SD Slot
Display resolution inferior to Xoom
No Widgets which are much more usable for tablets.
Extra money for HDMI adapter while is is part of Xoom
Display resolution is still same as iPad1!!

All features like Duel processor, front/rear camera, Gyro, HDMI, USB, Flash support,
Widget support, 1GB RAM,SD Card slot to expand memory,4G support, better resolution display are already part of Xoom.

No wonder it is $79 chceaper then Xoom, add all cost up and Xoom will come out cheaper and better then iPad2($39 just for hdmi adapter, LOL)

Totally awesome dude. Widgets are much, much cooler than actual applications. You can recite the specs out loud to yourself while staring raptly at your home-screen while I'm editing videos and mixing down music. And designing and showing Keynote presentations. And..... well, never mind, you've got a weather widget to love.
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post #93 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post

That's a cute video for the smart cover.
But what are we supposed to do with it when holding the iPad during use?

Yeah. Really well done video.

In (possible) answer; Simply tear it off and leave it lie there, throw it in your shoulder bag, fold it up and slide it in your back pocket (?)
I presume it folds back around like you would fold back a magazine (?) Does it hold back there in-place magnetically (?)

Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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post #94 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

No. I don't think the Playbook will ever even ship in any kind of numbers before the inevitable collapse of RIM, and the Xoom is a niche product IMO.

Even if the Xoom "suceeds" it's not something that regular consumers are even interested in. The iPad has huge appeal amongst techies but also across the board. Everyone from your Mum to a Unix tech wants one. Xoom might sell well among the male, angry, 20 something geek market but that's pretty much it.

Anyone else notice that Prof. Peabody never comments when Steve Jobs is on stage...

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post #95 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by kube View Post

I have an AT&T iphone 4. I'm planning on getting an iPad2. I'm wondering if I should save some bucks and get the iPad2 without 3G, and use the wifi hotspot from the iphone when I'm traveling and want the ipad to access the net.

I don't think I'll go that route, but its worth considering. Anybody have any thoughts?

I'm buying the 3G model just in case you need cellular data. There's no contract, you can let it expire at any time (which is what I did after the first month with my original iPad 3G -- I was curious to see how well it worked out). Of course, if you can live with tethering, maybe you really don't need it.

However, the 3G model also has assisted GPS so you can use your iPad for GPS navi, even if you don't have cellular data. Navfree is one GPS navigation app that has a preloaded map. Others (like MotionX) can precache itineraries.
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post #96 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by isaidso View Post

Yeah. Really well done video.

In (possible) answer; Simply tear it off and leave it lie there, throw it in your shoulder bag, fold it up and slide it in your back pocket (?)
I presume it folds back around like you would fold back a magazine (?) Does it hold back there in-place magnetically (?)

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Take a look at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/smart-cover/
Under "great looks, and even better moves"...

If you prefer to hold iPad, the Smart Cover flips back and out of the way like a page in a magazine.
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post #97 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

In the computing world, faster processing is indeed incremental improvement. Arguably, it is expected improvement, since many other tablets will have two-core processing.

Having said this, this is a very nice increment.

Apple engineers are no smarter than those from RIM or Motorola. How is it they can squeeze similar guts into a smaller package? At the end of the day, electronic miniaturization is about all about SOC (system-on-a-chip) innovation. Apple does not have magic in this technology inaccessible to others. What they have is a CEO who pays attention to design. When Jobs talks about the liberal arts DNA at Apple, he is referring to his own. RIM, Motorola, HTC and HP don't have this DNA at the top, because the likes of Sanjay Jha, Mike Lazaridis, Jim Balsillie are either traditional engineers or business execs. Steve is neither - just a renaissance man not tied down by his roots.

So yeah, a nice increment. Can't wait to hold one!

"Apple engineers are no smarter than those from RIM or Motorola."
What? are you fkn kidding?!
Yeah... everybody on the whole planet is actually just as smart as everybody else. There are no more-talented people than non-talented people. Talent, intelligence, creativity... Everybody has it in absolute equal amounts.
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post #98 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by tjw View Post

Same old apple......

Beautiful hardware.... Shame about the ios software. Still just a glorified app launcher. Still you can't blame them for playing to their strengths.

Oh and I expect you still have to plug it into itunes all the bloody time and to even activate it. Can someone explain the logic behind buying a tablet to replace your laptop (as both my parents did and many others) yet you still can't even start using it until you have plugged it into a boring old conventional computer?!

The Logic? Sure, they don't expect a tablet to replace the laptop. It's a different device..
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post #99 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by poohlp View Post

This update is impressive. They are clearly aiming to have everyone have a tablet that they carry with them at all times. It isn't quite there, but for most casual users, this almost has the potential to completely replace a traditional laptop/desktop. All it needs is a 128GB option and better Office compatibility, and I'd be tempted to buy one of these instead of the fancy 15' macbook pro my next chuck of change is going to be doled out for as soon as I determine how much of my life savings I am willing to part with.

If only my old macbook weren't yelling at me about lack of memory every night, I might buy one of these instead and limp along with what I have...

T,FTFY

Flash? Really? You do know the non-Apple tablet with the best battery life (by far) is the one that doesn't ship with flash?

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post #100 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

Sure, but what is the alternative? You want HDMI, but someone else will want VGA to connect to their office projector. Add in a SD slot to make the photographers happy. But then we still need USB for those of use with cameras that take compact flash or to connect the keyboard. I'd love to not have to deal with adaptors, but which set of ports would they include without upsetting some portion of customers? The dock connector seems the best compromise. The only drawback is there is only one. So you can't, for example, charge the iPad while your downloading photos from your camera. Separate charing port would be nice...but there we go again adding more ports to it.

Stop talking logic. It doesn't fly here.
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post #101 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by Sacto Joe View Post

This is not correct. ORDERS start March 11th. Checked their website plus tried to order. Did Steve Jobs mis-speak?

it means lines at the apple stores march 11th. They don't want to shrink the lines with preorders.
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post #102 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:16pm
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I have an AT&T iphone 4. I'm planning on getting an iPad2. I'm wondering if I should save some bucks and get the iPad2 without 3G, and use the wifi hotspot from the iphone when I'm traveling and want the ipad to access the net.

I don't think I'll go that route, but its worth considering. Anybody have any thoughts?

I think that might be a good idea, the only thing you will really be missing is GPS. The wifi version does not come with GPS, so if you are hiking (i do this allot with my iPad 1) or out with your iPad you will not see your location. Now the wifi version can use Wifi geo-location to find where your iPad is but I'm not sure if this will work with the personal hot spot feature and if you have no wifi connection then you will have no location info

There is a blue tooth gps product that does work with the iPad & ipod though. its $100

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004M3BICU
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post #103 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by dimitrir View Post

Very disappointing - not nearly as good as Motorola Xoom.

It looks like 2011 will be a year of Android tablets after all.

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post #104 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by jpcg View Post

And the new specs:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

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front cam VGA 30fps
back cam 720p 30fps

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I think its funny that you can only Geotag via Wifi even in the 3G/GPS version

more likely a mistake in the specs than an actual limitation of the iPad 2.
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post #105 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

I had hoped for a Thunderbolt port as I think it would make a good tech demo, and the timing was right for it. Oh well. Sad that they're making me wait longer to see iOS 5

iPad 2 looks really good though and I'm glad HDMI finally made an appearance (I wonder if they used the unused pins in the dock connector for it since digital video out wasn't available before), it should be coming to the rest of the iOS devices now.

I hoped for thunderbolt too.

Though... I am curious how they did an iPad 30 pin connector (with 2 free pins) to an HDMI 19 pin connector -- and have pins left over for concurrent charging and syncing.

I wonder if there is intelligence in the iPad which:

-- recognizes the presence of the iPad/HDMI adapter
-- reroutes the pinouts accordingly

If so, could this same logic be applied to an iPad/Thunderbolt adapter.


iPad Pinouts

HDMI Pinouts
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post #106 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by shapesNforms View Post

Take a look at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/smart-cover/
Under "great looks, and even better moves"...

If you prefer to hold iPad, the Smart Cover flips back and out of the way like a page in a magazine.

I had already seen that web page prior to writing my post, but missed the part about "fold like a magazine"
(I'm just too excited)
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post #107 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:21pm
http://www.apple.com/ipad/3g/
The cellular payment gateway.
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post #108 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by lamewing View Post

But for people like me who want a small computer to write and test code on the go...it is still a toy. I am "stuck" using a Macbook Air.

They have those, they're called laptops.
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post #109 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Overall, this really is what the device should have been at the beginning, and I'm sure it will sell very well.

Considering the iPad was pretty much the first of its kind, this is kind of a silly statement. A first generation device breaking new ground "shouldn't be" anything in particular as there's little to compare it with. First gen devices are rarely, if ever, meets everyone's needs.
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post #110 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

Thanks for the irrelevant post. Now please cancel your account and go pissing in someone else's pool.

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Piss in his own bathtub, more likely.
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post #111 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:23pm
amazing.

proof that apple's competitors need to look at themselves to innovate and not outside. apple has, once again, raised the bar and everyone else is scrambling to catch up.

i've read posts from all the crabby mcnasties and really, they're just sad, pathetic, envious, and probably feel quite powerless against what is, once again, true innovation.

btw, i don't own an iphone or an ipad. i have used them on occasion when i'm out and about with friends. they're simply awesome!

this puts a smile on my face (and, yes, my hands are above my desk and in plain sight).
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post #112 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by isaidso View Post

I had already seen that web page prior to writing my post, but missed the part about "fold like a magazine"
(I'm just too excited)

How long do you think it will take before some idiot sue Apple because the iPad doesn't "fold like a magazine" even though this refers to the cover?
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post #113 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by shapesNforms View Post

Take a look at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/smart-cover/
Under "great looks, and even better moves"...

If you prefer to hold iPad, the Smart Cover flips back and out of the way like a page in a magazine.

I want to know how well it stays on when its in a bag. looks like it could easily slide off
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post #114 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:27pm
i'm curious why Apple made the following distinction:

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Audio Playback
- Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound pass-through with Apple Digital AV Adapter (sold separately)

TV and Video
- Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format

the iPad 2 will be able to bitstream multi-channel audio and yet MP4 container support seems to suggest only stereo. hopefully a clarification is forthcoming. i may actually purchase the iPad 2 within the next few weeks.
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post #115 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by samban View Post

http://www.apple.com/ipad/3g/
The cellular payment gateway.

I wonder if i take my sim from my first iPad and put it into the new one, i will still get my unlimited data.
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post #116 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:30pm
Looks like iPad 2 has caused some serious panic amongst the trolls, fandroids and Apple haters. Kind of fun to sit back and watch them freak out. Boys, haven't you learned that recycling your criticisms of the original iPad isn't going to work any better the second time around.

BTW, no one has mentioned no Blu-ray drive yet. You guys might want to jump on that one.
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post #117 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

Cool cover!

Except it's the exact opposite of what Apple has been trying to tell users for years: "your (iPhone/iPod/iPad) screen doesn't need a cover".

The aluminum back is far more sensitive to scratches than glass so they make a case that covers the tough material and leaves the soft one completely exposed

Overall it's quite an impressive upgrade, although extremely lame that they went with the same crappy cameras as last year's iPod touch.

I'll never buy one because the price/performance/size thing doesn't work for me, but I expect it to sell extremely well to other people.
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post #118 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

I'm buying the 3G model just in case you need cellular data. There's no contract, you can let it expire at any time (which is what I did after the first month with my original iPad 3G -- I was curious to see how well it worked out). Of course, if you can live with tethering, maybe you really don't need it.

However, the 3G model also has assisted GPS so you can use your iPad for GPS navi, even if you don't have cellular data. Navfree is one GPS navigation app that has a preloaded map. Others (like MotionX) can precache itineraries.

You can also buy a blue tooth GPS and pair it with the iPad to get GPS.

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post #119 of 417
3/2/11 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

I had hoped for a Thunderbolt port as I think it would make a good tech demo, and the timing was right for it. Oh well. Sad that they're making me wait longer to see iOS 5

iPad 2 looks really good though and I'm glad HDMI finally made an appearance (I wonder if they used the unused pins in the dock connector for it since digital video out wasn't available before), it should be coming to the rest of the iOS devices now.

Thunderbolt is proprietary to Intel and uses PCI Express. Why would the iPad use this? To support multiple displays far larger than 1080p? Ha! To access huge files on RAID? Ha!

I'm very happy to see HDMI out AND video mirroring. Thunderbolt is a PC interface.
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3/2/11 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

It's gonna be great.

Surely we'll see:

Toy!
I'm so disappointed.
Deal breaker!
The competition is already miles ahead!
What no HDMI, SD reader, Flash, blah blah blah?

The deal-breakers for me are: no wire wheels; no mud flaps with shiny reflectors of pinup girls!

Sigh!
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