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AT&T has confirmed that it will support the Personal Hotspot Wi-Fi tethering feature for the iPhone 4 when iOS 4.3 is released next Friday. Also, the carrier now offers postpaid data plans for the iPad and other 3G-capable tablets.

"AT&T plans to support the iOS 4.3 mobile hotspot feature when it's released March 11," the company said in a statement to AppleInsider. "To utilize this feature, customers will need to subscribe to the DataPro 4GB/$45 tethering data plan."

Personal Hotspot allows a user to share the 3G connection on their iPhone 4 with up to five devices over Wi-Fi. The feature will come to AT&T iPhone 4 customers with iOS 4.3, when it is released next Friday.

Verizon iPhone 4 customers have had access to the Personal Hotspot feature since that handset was released in February. Apple added the feature in a unique build of iOS, dubbed 4.2.5, for its Verizon handset.

Apple released the Golden Master of iOS 4.3 to developers on Thursday, signaling that the software update is on track for its March 11 release. Verizon iPhone 4 customers will have to wait, as the device uses a different baseband chip than other phones.

Customers now also have the option of paying at the end of the month instead of the beginning, thanks to AT&T's addition of postpaid billing for 3G connected tablets like the iPad. The new plans can be added to customers' existing monthly wireless statements, allowing them to have a single monthly bill.

"Tablets offer the convenience of mobile broadband virtually anywhere and our new billing options give customers the flexibility to choose how they prefer to be billed," said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility & Consumer Markets.

Postpaid customers have the same options: $14.99 for 250MB or $25 for 2GB per month. Customers on the 2GB plan who exceed their monthly allotment will be charged $10 per extra 1GB of overage, while prepaid customers pay $25 for an extra 2GB.
post #2 of 64
No 3GS hotspot support. Yeah, thanks AT&T. I'll remember this when my contract is up in June/July and the iPhone 5 comes out.

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Come on AT&T. Why exclude all of your unlimited customers and make us angry? I have been a loyal customer for >10 years. But now I'm really considering jumping ship to Verizon. I'm already paying a lot for my data. Why charge me again for the connivence of occasionally browsing the web on my laptop or iPad instead of my phone and force me to downgrade my plan?
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Why do I need to pay AT&T an extra $50 a month to use a feature that is supported by the phone OS?

Greedy bastards.
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Come on AT&T. Why exclude all of your unlimited customers and make us angry? I have been a loyal customer for >10 years. But now I'm really considering jumping ship to Verizon. I'm already paying a lot for my data. Why charge me again for the connivence of occasionally browsing the web on my laptop or iPad instead of my phone and force me to downgrade my plan?

While y'all sitting complaining about paying for tethering, I am my surfing using mywi on my jailbroken iPhone.
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Originally Posted by juggernaut30 View Post

Come on AT&T. Why exclude all of your unlimited customers and make us angry? I have been a loyal customer for >10 years. But now I'm really considering jumping ship to Verizon. I'm already paying a lot for my data. Why charge me again for the connivence of occasionally browsing the web on my laptop or iPad instead of my phone and force me to downgrade my plan?

Rogers, in Canada, offers a Data Sharing plan for $10/mth. However, since I have the 6GB plan with my iPhone, they want $30/mth to let me share the bandwidth with my iPad. (for $35.95/mth the iPad could have it's own 6GB of data.

Not cool.
post #7 of 64
This add'l cost just to tether BS must end! Why should I pay for a caddilac data plan and then twice for the same data? Same goes for texts. Even if I only buy one MB of data per month, I should be allowed to use it as I please. The fact that not one regulatory agency or politician is addressing this is clear indication that we live in a corrupt business environment controlled by an oligopoly.
post #8 of 64
I second that. Please AT&T take care of us and we will stay with you. Keep trying to rip us off and we will jump. We are not asking for any give aways, just fair treatment.
post #9 of 64
Best argument yet for jailbreaking.
post #10 of 64
Another $50 on top of my data plan to use the data plan I'm already paying for? No thanks.
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Another $50 on top of my data plan to use the data plan I'm already paying for? No thanks.

No, that is incorrect.

To have the iPhone on AT&T you must subscribe to a data plan. Which means you pay $30 for unlimited (if you are on the old plan), $15 for 250MB, $25 for 2GB, or $45 for 4GB and tethering/hot spot support. So the biggest increase tethering might cost you is $30 if you were on the $250MB plan.

Personally, I think its criminally bad to offer a metered plan and then charge extra for how you decide to use it. A person should be able to pay for a data plan and then use that data anyway the hardware supports. It is no different than if they charged for a data plan, then charged extra for web access, youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. And I bet if they thought they could get away with it, they would charge that way.

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Come on AT&T. Why exclude all of your unlimited customers and make us angry? I have been a loyal customer for >10 years. But now I'm really considering jumping ship to Verizon. I'm already paying a lot for my data. Why charge me again for the connivence of occasionally browsing the web on my laptop or iPad instead of my phone and force me to downgrade my plan?

While I agree with the general premiss that cell carriers are evil, to address your particular point.... Unlimited customers are likely excluded because while you may only "occassionally" use your laptop or iPad, another person may use it as a full-time internet connection for their laptop or desktop computer to stream Netflix, download 700 MB OS updates, etc, etc.

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Why do I need to pay AT&T an extra $50 a month to use a feature that is supported by the phone OS?

Greedy bastards.

You aren't paying at extra $50. The article was poorly written, and it appears you are paying $45 for the tethering. It's $25 for your iPhone data play and then another $20 for the tethering option.

And another poster said you are paying twice for the same data. That used to be the case for ATT, but it appears they are changing that. Before now, that $20 didn't get you any extra data. But then Verizon came along and for their $20 tethering charge you get an additional 2 GB of data. But the iPhone data pool and tethering data pool were separate pools. This was because the iPhone data is unlimited (see my comment above why they would never extend unlimited data to a tethered device).

This is a good thing! It appears we have a little competition between the carriers finally. Because now ATT has sweetened their tethering plan to not only give you another 2 GB of data, but the iPhone and tethering data is now combined into a single 4 GB chunk. ATT also charges less for additional data if you go over, so we'll see if Verizon matches it.

I'm looking forward to the iPhone 5 release. Hopefully it will be released simultaneously on ATT and Verizon because that may prompt some additional competition to get more improvements to the package pricing.
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best argument yet for jailbreaking.

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post #14 of 64
Can someone who is using the new plan chime in. Curious for occasional travel use how this impacts usage.
post #15 of 64
The article isn’t quite clear on the availability of Personal Hotspot for grandfathered unlimited data plans. Do those of us with unlimited plans still have to pay extra to use Personal Hotspot?
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Originally Posted by kpluck View Post

Personally, I think its criminally bad to offer a metered plan and then charge extra for how you decide to use it. A person should be able to pay for a data plan and then use that data anyway the hardware supports. It is no different than if they charged for a data plan, then charged extra for web access, youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. And I bet if they thought they could get away with it, they would charge that way.

-kpluck

Well, wait. They're not done with us yet. I fully expect a royal screwing down the road. It doesn't have to play out as a simple upcharge. These telecoms, they are very crafty.
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

No 3GS hotspot support. Yeah, thanks AT&T. I'll remember this when my contract is up in June/July and the iPhone 5 comes out.

Keep holding your breath... likely an iPhone 4S or iPhone 4+ this summer,
but there's no way there will be an "iPhone 5" until 2012.

This one is just a warning, but remember next time "iPhone 5" is mentioned you'll have to cough up $1 for the stupid tax.
post #18 of 64
Ok, now why AT&T, would I pay $15 bucks MORE than the old unlimited data plan I currently have (30bucks unlimited) for less data more money just to tether? Yeah... this just makes Verizon or jailbreak an even bigger and better options. I mean really?
post #19 of 64
I would love it if the IPAD could become the hotspot for my macbook.
post #20 of 64
For me this will be a nice option. I'm paying $25 for my iPhone, $25 for my iPad, and $7.99 for Boingo (to feed my MacBook on the ferry and in the airport). I always have my iPhone with me, so for $45 I can feed all the devices and save $13 a month. And if I go over 4GB it's $10/GB instead of a forced $25/2GB.
post #21 of 64
I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 4. I would only give it up for 4GB/month plan with tethering for the same $30 price. Otherwise, I am sticking with my unlimited plan.
post #22 of 64
If they don't want unlimited data tethering it's too bad that we can't get the 4GB plan for the same price at least. I'd be fine with that. I've never exceeded thus far so if it's the occasional use/ light tethering to the ipad I should be fine.

It would be a big plus to not have to pickup another 3g ipad. What a PITA. Turn it on/ turn it off blah blah blah. Seems when I have data on the ipad I'm going wifi. When I don't I have to sign up for it for like an hour and then I never use it again for another 2 months.

No major downloads over 3G really isn't a problem for me or anyone that I could see. It's not like you;'ll have to update your OS in the field all that often.

Tethering shouldn't be an extra charge though. Extra charges just make it seem like a rip off. Tethering with a 4GB's of data is a great idea, but it's priced all wrong. It shouldn't cost MORE than the old unlimited plan. AT&T is so stupid.

If they just dropped the price of the plans to "tier down" from $30 ($30 4GB+ tethering) they would clean up with subscribers. I guess they haven't accepted the fact that they are just service providers and are competing with service relative to price.

If they did what I'm talking about you'd get a "mifi" and your regular phone data plan combined. That's a killer deal.
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I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 4. I would only give it up for 4GB/month plan with tethering for the same $30 price. Otherwise, I am sticking with my unlimited plan.

Exactly. Unlimited and JB sounds very appealing too . This reminds me of the record labels causing their own problems by not embracing the reality technology proposes. AT&T et al are trying to use tech to control and manipulate the market. People like us might just say F_-_ it! and JB our phones. My friends kids have steadily assuaged my fears of ever Jbreaking an iPhone.
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The article isnt quite clear on the availability of Personal Hotspot for grandfathered unlimited data plans. Do those of us with unlimited plans still have to pay extra to use Personal Hotspot?

The tethering data plan is required to use the hotspot feature. The tethering plan is only allowed with limited data plans. If you want to use the hotspot, your data plan would go from $30 to $25, and you would have to pay $20 for tethering. So, the choice would be $30 for unlimited (no hotspot), or $45 for tethering/hotspot with a limit of 4GB. So, it's a mixed bag.
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AT&T et al are trying to use tech to control and manipulate the market.

This is nonsensical. AT&T is trying to prevent a network meltdown, just as Verizon is by switching to tiered data pricing. We iPhone users are already massive consumers of data. Theyre right to be extremely wary of tethering.
post #26 of 64
I get 2GB of data on my plan, I can use it however I want, including tethering, no doubt the new WiFi hotspot will also fall under this.

Why is the rest of the world (62% of iPhone sales) held hostage to the whims of an American phone company?
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Fine:

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Why do I need to pay AT&T an extra $20 a month to use a feature that is supported by the phone OS?

Greedy bastards.


I guess I just have a problem paying an extra $250 a year for something when the providing company has done absolutely nothing to deserve it, and doesn't actually do anything to support it. If I have a problem using the hotspot - do I call at&t?

If At&t had provided a hotspot software solution for the iphone, fine, then those who want it should pay the extra $. If the built-in software supports it, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to use the data I'm already paying for as I see fit.

It really seems like if I'm using the iphone as a hotspot on the lower plan, I'm way more likely to go into overage charges, and since At&t seems to like my money, why not just let the hotspot go for free and wait for the overage charges?
post #28 of 64
For $45 a month, I can get a CLEAR 4G hotspot with unlimited data. Yeah, I'd have to tote around another device, but that is only a $15 upcharge if I cancel my $30 iPad unlimited plan, and I get much faster service. If I switch my iPhone to the $15 per month minimum data plan, it pays for it! Something to consider....
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The tethering data plan is required to use the hotspot feature. The tethering plan is only allowed with limited data plans. If you want to use the hotspot, your data plan would go from $30 to $25, and you would have to pay $20 for tethering. So, the choice would be $30 for unlimited (no hotspot), or $45 for tethering/hotspot with a limit of 4GB. So, it's a mixed bag.

Agreed it's a mixed bag but I travel a lot and want the tethering. Assuming I don't go over 4gb a month, it's an ok deal. Anyone who travels knows most hotels charge 10-15-20 per day for wireless internet so paying an extra 15 (I have the unlimited right now) by comparison isn't outrageous.

Plus I usually travel with my macbook air and ipad, so I'll be able to use both devices with my tethered phone and will never have to pay $30 for ipad 3g service per month.
post #30 of 64
I'll pull the trigger on this when they let me keep my grandfathered unlimited plan. Until then, I'm keeping unlimited on the iPhone and iPad.

Hmmmm. Perhaps if they provided a rollover plan for data bytes I'd consider changing. It's only during peek sport event times and baseball season when my data usage goes nuts.
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Can someone who is using the new plan chime in. Curious for occasional travel use how this impacts usage.

I have used it with the new 4GB limit. And had hours of basic web and email without getting close to hitting that cap.

Back when I had a laptop card with unlimited I often used around 2GB and once used over 5GB when I watched a half dozen or so Netflix moviesin a hotel with crappy wireless.

Still I thinkmthey should allow rollover MB just like rollover minutes

Or at least have the data over the plan be be the same $/GB as under the plan. It seems like highway robbery to me to charge $15 for 250MB Then another $10 for the next chunk of -- actually I lost track what do they charge now?

In any case the 251st MB docent cost AT&T anymore to deliver than the 250th so the price per GB Should be the same. It's not like they have to stockpile bandwidth for users with the higher plans the way you would with finite resources like water or something that needs to be warehoused and distributed.
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This is nonsensical. AT&T is trying to prevent a network meltdown, just as Verizon is by switching to tiered data pricing. We iPhone users are already massive consumers of data. They’re right to be extremely wary of tethering.

Nonsense? We iphone users? What are talking about? Please site that iphone users use more bandwidth than a comparable android user. I hardly use 3G data. I don't need unlimited data, but if I'm taking the risk of going over I want acceptable prices. Especially if we are talking about tethering since I may go over if I'm using a laptop.

Currently the 250MB plan users will pay an extra $15/ 250MB (cumulative $60/ GB). By contrast someone paying for a 2GB plan will only be charged $10 for a GB? How is that not manipulative and controlling? They set the price then attempt to make us think this pricing is because they have to punish high data users? Simple math will tell you this is a subtle scam. They aren't punishing high consumption users at all. They just want us to justify the new biggest plan.

Also, now that we are talking about metered internet, should we have "rollover" data rates if I don't use my data? If not why not?
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Speaking about long-term customers, I've been using a Verizon mifi for almost a year; before that i had a usb device i think was called a 640: it offered wireless wifi to my macbook pro (mbp). I used to average 2 GB a month on my mbp. My ipad sucks up an average of 16 GB a month. How can i afford it ($59 a month)? I'm a long term Verizon customer who bought their "unlimited wifi" product when it first came out! Yea Verizon!!


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While I agree with the general premiss that cell carriers are evil, to address your particular point.... Unlimited customers are likely excluded because while you may only "occassionally" use your laptop or iPad, another person may use it as a full-time internet connection for their laptop or desktop computer to stream Netflix, download 700 MB OS updates, etc, etc.



You aren't paying at extra $50. The article was poorly written, and it appears you are paying $45 for the tethering. It's $25 for your iPhone data play and then another $20 for the tethering option.

And another poster said you are paying twice for the same data. That used to be the case for ATT, but it appears they are changing that. Before now, that $20 didn't get you any extra data. But then Verizon came along and for their $20 tethering charge you get an additional 2 GB of data. But the iPhone data pool and tethering data pool were separate pools. This was because the iPhone data is unlimited (see my comment above why they would never extend unlimited data to a tethered device).

This is a good thing! It appears we have a little competition between the carriers finally. Because now ATT has sweetened their tethering plan to not only give you another 2 GB of data, but the iPhone and tethering data is now combined into a single 4 GB chunk. ATT also charges less for additional data if you go over, so we'll see if Verizon matches it.

I'm looking forward to the iPhone 5 release. Hopefully it will be released simultaneously on ATT and Verizon because that may prompt some additional competition to get more improvements to the package pricing.
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

No 3GS hotspot support. Yeah, thanks AT&T. I'll remember this when my contract is up in June/July and the iPhone 5 comes out.

Apple says it's an iPhone 4 exclusive, not AT&T.
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AT&T's 3G on my iPhone 4 sucks so bad, they should pay me to tether it to my iPad.
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No, that is incorrect.

To have the iPhone on AT&T you must subscribe to a data plan. Which means you pay $30 for unlimited (if you are on the old plan), $15 for 250MB, $25 for 2GB, or $45 for 4GB and tethering/hot spot support. So the biggest increase tethering might cost you is $30 if you were on the $250MB plan.

Personally, I think its criminally bad to offer a metered plan and then charge extra for how you decide to use it. A person should be able to pay for a data plan and then use that data anyway the hardware supports. It is no different than if they charged for a data plan, then charged extra for web access, youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. And I bet if they thought they could get away with it, they would charge that way.

-kpluck

Very well stated.
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Why do I need to pay AT&T an extra $50 a month to use a feature that is supported by the phone OS?

Greedy bastards.

Let me guess, you "share" your cable TV connection with a neighbor since the wire already runs to the neighborhood.
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Let me guess, you "share" your cable TV connection with a neighbor since the wire already runs to the neighborhood.

Use the Internet they pay for also by hopping on their wifi. Oh! Maybe take their car for a spin since it was just sitting in the garage not being used at the moment.

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Let me guess, you "share" your cable TV connection with a neighbor since the wire already runs to the neighborhood.

I don't understand the analogy. The post was talking about using the data one already pays for. If i have a 2GB plan on my iphone and a 2gb plan on my ipad, but only use 1GB on either wouldn't it stand to reason that all I need is one 2GB plan?

Why does sharing the connection factor into this equation? No one is sharing. We're talking about individual consumption.
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