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Can we say far to little RAM?

You can say it, but if you write it that way, it makes about as much sense as MacBooks Air.

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How exactly does deleting present notes when moving off the iPad and additional fonts have to do with not enough RAM.

There are actually many issues here that impact the various problems with the iWork suite. On big issue is that iPad one is extremely tight with respect to RAM.
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Let's consider that iWork for iPad is still in it's first iteration.

Which is exactly my point! If the next iWork update targets iPad 2 they will have far more RAM to work with which would hopefully mean that they can retain all of the data from files transferred to the platform. Due to they way iOS works RAM significantly limits app functionality. With iPad 2 we should start to see some impressive apps that leverage the greater amount of RAM in the device.
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Originally Posted by john galt View Post

You can say it, but if you write it that way, it makes about as much sense as MacBooks Air.


I would guess you don't know what RAM is.
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Originally Posted by co4nd View Post

The major complaint was the lack of a CD Rom drive. It's another case of apple being a head of the consumer.

Based on alleged sales figures, this appears to no longer be a significant issue.
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Apple should make a really portable MacBook Air:

- 400 to 600 g.
- 5 to 7-inch screen.
- Pocketable.

The ultimate Keynote and PowerPoint presentation tool!

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mac should make a 6 in ipad

You mean 'Apple' and '7-inch', respectively.

And no, they won't.

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My 3-month old 13" MBA is a treat to use each time. I actually end up using it more than my 27" i7 iMac now. The SSD setup makes my MBA much faster for everyday use. Phenomenal machine.

Is it really much faster than my 5400 HD? Will I see a difference if I installed a SSD in my MBP 13 inch from 2010 I just got 1 month ago. Thanks
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I am enjoying my MBA, and did not get the optical drive. MacMall pre-installed Windows 7 (and sent me the install disk which says clearly the drive is needed for reinstall). I installed two other things on the MBA, MS Office for Mac by sharing my iMac drive, and Sophos Virus on Windows by putting the install on a flash drive. So, with these two methods, i seem to be getting along nicely.
Can anyone think of a likely scenario where i will need to Optical drive? Main reasons for not buying it were (1) the ads tout that it's not needed, and (2) another piece of hardware lying around not being used, getting misplaced, etc.
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Originally Posted by marvfox View Post

Is it really much faster than my 5400 HD? Will I see a difference if I installed a SSD in my MBP 13 inch from 2010 I just got 1 month ago. Thanks

Get a good quality SSD and you will *definitely* see the difference. If you can afford it, I don't see any reason not to use an SSD in a Mac laptop.
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I think there's room for the iPad and a Whitebook at the $799 price point, because they serve different needs. As I said earlier, a $799 Whitebook would be a great, fully functional, inexpensive Maci.e. it would run OS X Lion. Great for students and writers. I'm reminded of several gazillion years ago, when Apple made the eMate. I worked for a newspaper then, and our reporters used eMates and LOVED them. If you're on a really tight budget, and you don't need a fancy, machined aluminum beast, or huge amounts of memory or storage, but you DO need full word-processing capability and other functionality that OS X provides, but iOS does not, then a $799 Whitebook would be just about perfect.
The iPad is not a laptop replacement, nor was it ever designed or intended to be.



You make a very excellent point here. With thunderbolt, even design houses and production studios could plug their MBPs directly into their 36 TB RAID systems. As MBPs get better and faster, the Mac Pro is increasingly losing its raisons d'être. I suppose users at big houses may need to use more displays than even a 2014 MBP could support (plus, the heat generated by a graphics card that powerful would likely melt a hole in the floor. Ah, where would I be without hyperbole?? ) So, it makes more sense to me (and apparently to you as well), that Apple eventually retire the Mac Pro, and, oh hey! Resurrect the Xservebut this time, make it bigger and badder, and most importantly, actually market it!!


I think there's still a place for the Mini and iMacin the homes of families on a budget, i.e., a single "family computer", rather than four or five individual laptops; or a small office environment: an iMac set up at a receptionist's desk looks pretty swanky.

Yup. I'm with ya there.

What I see is an intention to progressively improve the capabilities of the iPad, giving it the ability to handle a wider variety of specific uses. As this happens, a $799 laptop becomes progressively less necessary. If the iPad 3 is a machine that Apple will market as closer to being a substitute for a lower-end laptop, it means we could see an end to a low-cost laptop option.

Don't forget that another development may be the reduction in price of the MacBook Air because one of the reasons for it being priced as it is now is that SSD is still expensive. This will not be the case indefinitely. As SSDs become more affordable, I think a computer using Air technology coming in at a lower price point is not out of the question.

By the way, regarding the Mini, I wonder if one option could be to offer a minimalist take on the desktop, featuring an outrageously small device that uses SSDs and has no optical drive. That would be an interesting product and I can imagine a desktop that small could be put to some interesting uses.
post #171 of 195
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Is it really much faster than my 5400 HD? Will I see a difference if I installed a SSD in my MBP 13 inch from 2010 I just got 1 month ago. Thanks

There are so many reviews out there comparing them. Even a cheap SSD is faster than a fast HHD in pretty every test. Just go into an Apple Store and restart an 11 MBA with a comparatively slow 1.2GHz small-form-factor ultra-low voltage CPU, then restart the fastest MBP, iMac or Mac Pro they have with an HDD for a boot drive.

Also, make sure you check out the SSD v. Raptor HDDs online. AnandTech also has a lot of good comparisons.
post #172 of 195
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

I recently spent a week scuba diving and shooting underwater photography with a friend who was running an off-the-shelf 2GB 13" MBA (late 2010) while I had my 4GB, HDD-based 13" MBP (mid 2010), since sold. In a head-to-head comparison running local Lightroom libraries of the raw underwater images for the week, I'd be inclined to say the only deficiency in her MBA was the page out rates (not enough base memory, not upgradeable). In fact, I pretty much said exactly that:


Based on that experience, if they gave the MBAs similar updates to the early 2011 MBPs, I will be first in line for one. For those of use to have to travel with the current weight restrictions, a pound-and-a-half here and there can make a big difference and, IRL, SSDs can make up a lot of the performance difference of a slower processor.

Maybe don't be so quick to assume what you think makes a fast enough computer has to apply to everyone?


For the vast majority of MBA purchasers, 2GB is plenty, which begs the question, why are you so insistent on all those many customers who don't need more RAM paying more to accommodate a small percentage of purchasers. If Apple were to make 4GB the default configuration, it would mean adding to the cost of the base model. It might be less than the $100 Cdn. it costs now to boost the RAM but no matter how much it would come to, you are asking people to pay something for RAM that has no value to them. If it's $70, for example, that's $70 wasted for many consumers. Apple is offering consumers a choice and in so doing it is charging a bit of a premium on that small group needing additional RAM. It seems to me preferable that a small percentage of MBA buyers have to pay let's say an extra $30 for additional RAM than have all MBA buyers have to come up with an additional $70.

Sure this puts the onus on the consumer to know how much RAM is going to be needed but then again, how is that different from any other purchase. If you don't do your homework and it costs you, that's your fault.

It would be like GM refusing to build five-passenger vehicles because some consumers might, on occasion, need to carry six people. It's your responsibility to make an informed purchase.
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I would guess you don't know what RAM is.

I would guess English is not your first language.

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post #174 of 195
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Originally Posted by iGuessSo View Post

Totally agree. It's the best computer I've ever owned. In everyday use (excluding gaming) it's the fastest, most responsive computer I've ever used too.

The only thing I miss is dual monitors when I'm docked.

DisplayLink is your friend: http://www.displaylink.com/

I use an EVGA+ 16 and I have 2 1680x1050 displays, one miniDP->DVI and the other attached to a belkin 7-port hub that has KB, mouse, and iPhone dock.

I plug in my primary display, USB and magsafe and I'm all connected.

I've never run into problems for normal usage. I haven't tried videogames or movie playback (it's a work office).
post #175 of 195
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Originally Posted by Carmissimo View Post

For the vast majority of MBA purchasers, 2GB is plenty, which begs the question, why are you so insistent on all those many customers who don't need more RAM paying more to accommodate a small percentage of purchasers. If Apple were to make 4GB the default configuration, it would mean adding to the cost of the base model. It might be less than the $100 Cdn. it costs now to boost the RAM but no matter how much it would come to, you are asking people to pay something for RAM that has no value to them. If it's $70, for example, that's $70 wasted for many consumers. Apple is offering consumers a choice and in so doing it is charging a bit of a premium on that small group needing additional RAM. It seems to me preferable that a small percentage of MBA buyers have to pay let's say an extra $30 for additional RAM than have all MBA buyers have to come up with an additional $70.

Sure this puts the onus on the consumer to know how much RAM is going to be needed but then again, how is that different from any other purchase. If you don't do your homework and it costs you, that's your fault.

It would be like GM refusing to build five-passenger vehicles because some consumers might, on occasion, need to carry six people. It's your responsibility to make an informed purchase.

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640K ought to be enough for anybody.

What ever happened to, "It just works."

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post #176 of 195
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I agree completely, and you're right Apple will probably not do it but I think dropping the mb to $799 would open the door to buyers that otherwise would not be able to experience mac osx and how wonderful it is.

If they can somehow retain their margins by leaving the hardware where it is, I think it's a great move.

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It's really time for Apple to retire the vanilla Macbook. If $1000 is the best that can be done with it, I really don't think it has a place in the lineup anymore. Eliminate it and direct people to getting MBA's instead.

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Yeah, of course lowering the price opens the door to new buyers, but neither you nor tipoo have made a case for this being advantageous for Apple. Are you sure they can still get a good profit at that price point? How are you sure that they arent selling as many as they can make at $999? If $799 is good then $599 is even better, and $399 is even better than that, and $199 is better still, which makes throwing out a number because you like the way it looks a fruitless way to form an argument for a company lowering their price.

Computer pricing is based on a number of factors and "margin" is more complicated than many believe. The first big cost is amortizing the design and ramp up costs - "production experience" in short. Apple's done this ten times over on the white plastic macs by now. The second is the actual cost of making the ongoing models on existing production lines. The third is in refreshing the guts.

If they keep the model, I've been expecting a slight refresh and a price point of $899 - in between the fully tricked out Pad and the baby Air - as Apple is fond of filling every price point with usually one model - and (I believe) would still have decent margins with no design costs and slightly outdated and therefore cheaper components - and would be able to get another bit of the computer buying demo into Macs.

As for the below, I quit marking posts two pages in, so someone else may have already done me better....

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MacBook is a noun. Air is used as an adjective. The noun gets the 's' and the adjective doesn't.

Nupe. Macbook is the adjective in this construction. Adjectives nearly always precede the noun they modify. This is the Air line of Macbooks.

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Huh? I do, indeed see reports of "Ford Focuses", although this is perhaps a difference between British and American English?

I also see reference to MacBook Pros and Mac Minis (not MacBook Pro laptops or Mac Mini computers) and many other products that are easily recognizable by there trade name without their generally category being appended (iPods, Xboxes, and Civics, not iPod portable music player, Xbox gaming console or Civic automobile).

For the purposes of this discussion, though, we would never say "Macs Mini", or "Hondas Civic" or "Fords Focus." A trade name is treated as a compound noun, with the plural coming at the end.

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But you could say Ford's Focus.

You guys are both correct. As for Addabox's post, one reason is we're waaay too ADD (and stuck using less optimal keyboards and length-limited Tweets and TXTS) to use such clumsy constructions. Which is why Thunderbolt's already commonly TB with few people thinking about a disease when it's in an Apple context.

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Excuse me, but I just don't see how backlit keyboards are so important... My MBP 15 has one and my wife's new MBA 13 doesn't (BEST designed laptop I have EVER used) yet I can't see ANY difference when using the two keyboards. But then, I am a "touch typist".... I don't look at the keys while I type.

Is there some secret advantage to a keyboard with backlighting that I have missed?? Other than amusing my cats? Try typing all day long on it, and eventually you too will know where the darn keys are without looking, and will be able to type in the shadows!

Excuse me, I've also been a touch typist for many decades, and have momentary trouble orienting myself and staying oriented - even with the little 'bumps' when I try to use my old notebook in the dark. I can live without a lit KB, but it is a nice addition.

However, another poster noted that Apple made the keytops on the MBA reflective enough to be minimally lit by the reflection from the screen, and if so, that could be the most useful, power friendly and least distracting solution of all, e.g., who wants their KB glowing while watching House on Hulu?

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

You mean 'Apple' and '7-inch', respectively.

And no, they won't.

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no i do mean a form factor between ipod touch and ipad sizes

and of that >> in the middle size of which I speak will one day in the future be the top selling size

simply fits the hand better

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the middle size... ...will... ...be the top selling size

simply fits the hand better

Better than a 3.5" screen. Right...

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post #179 of 195
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The new AIRs are a totally new design. They are derived from the same concept but new machines are far more suited to the needs of the targeted users.
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The new AIRs are vastly improved and only remotely resemble the old systems. That is what makes them the great machines that they are.

You have a very odd definition of "remotely resemble" given all they did was add a USB port and SD card, did a speed bump and added a SSD in the 13".

It's not a 'totally new design" but a nice evolution of the original product. Put the two side by side and this is obvious.



Which is the new one?
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They are faster for many users but they are a very long way from being absolutely faster.

How, specifically, are they a "long way" from being absolutely faster?
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Originally Posted by john galt View Post

I would guess English is not your first language.


I saw this comment too, was a very odd comeback lol

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Nupe. Macbook is the adjective in this construction. Adjectives nearly always precede the noun they modify. This is the Air line of Macbooks.

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However, another poster noted that Apple made the keytops on the MBA reflective enough to be minimally lit by the reflection from the screen, and if so, that could be the most useful, power friendly and least distracting solution of all, e.g., who wants their KB glowing while watching House on Hulu?

MacBook is not the adjective. 'MacBook Air' is a compound noun. It's that simple.

You can turn down/off the keyboard backlighting using the function keys mapped to the F5 and F6 keys for House
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I would guess English is not your first language.


You have insulted a fine member here ..

take it back dude


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You have a very odd definition of "remotely resemble" given all they did was add a USB port and SD card, did a speed bump and added a SSD in the 13".

It's not a 'totally new design" but a nice evolution of the original product. Put the two side by side and this is obvious.



Which is the new one?

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I saw this comment too, was a very odd comeback lol



MacBook is not the adjective. 'MacBook Air' is a compound noun. It's that simple.

You can turn down/off the keyboard backlighting using the function keys mapped to the F5 and F6 keys for House

this whole grammar debate IS STUPID

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Why would left be new when it has the physical trackpad button? Come on.

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Why would left be new when it has the physical trackpad button? Come on.

Heh...that is a dead giveaway but they do look remarkably similar for something that was "totally redesigned" and only "remotely resemble" one another.

Yes, yes, from the side it is fairly obvious because of the ports but the heritage is obvious.
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MacBook is not the adjective. 'MacBook Air' is a compound noun. It's that simple.

You win the kewpie doll, sir:

http://www.learnenglish.de/grammar/nouncompound.htm

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A compound noun is a noun that is made up of two or more words. Most compound nouns in English are formed by nouns modified by other nouns or adjectives.

For example:

The words tooth and paste are each nouns in their own right, but if you join them together they form a new word - toothpaste. [such words may be joined as the former, hyphenated, or left free-standing]

The word black is an adjective and board is a noun, but if you join them together they form a new word - blackboard.

In both these example the first word modifies or describes the second word, telling us what kind of object or person it is, or what its purpose is. And the second part identifies the object or person in question.

Compound nouns can also be formed using the following combinations of words:-

Noun\t + Noun = toothpaste
Adjective\t +\tNoun\t = full moon
Verb\t +\tNoun\t = swimming pool
Preposition +\tNoun\t = underground
Noun\t +\tVerb\t = haircut
Noun\t +\tPreposition\t = hanger on
Adjective\t +\tVerb\t = dry-cleaning
Preposition\t +\tVerb\t = output


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You can turn down/off the keyboard backlighting using the function keys mapped to the F5 and F6 keys for House

Cool that!

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this whole grammar debate IS STUPID

really

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And as is well known, we always stick entirely on subject and only debate things of great moment and intellectual weight here on Apple Insider......

Me, I find some of the side conversations that break out (other than tediously and hideously personal flame/troll wars) the best part of a given thread, and the others, well, I'm a well-practiced scroller.

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You win the kewpie doll, sir:

http://www.learnenglish.de/grammar/nouncompound.htm

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Cool that!

And as is well known, we always stick entirely on subject and only debate things of great moment and intellectual weight here on Apple Insider......

Me, I find some of the side conversations that break out (other than tediously and hideously personal flame/troll wars) the best part of a given thread, and the others, well, I'm a well-practiced scroller.

Thank you, sir! lol. I tire of the baseless speculating and petty nitpicking that goes on here too so when someone throws down a good ol' grammar gauntlet I'm happy to pick it up, especially when some of the answers already given were so depressingly wayward!
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You have a very odd definition of "remotely resemble" given all they did was add a USB port and SD card, did a speed bump and added a SSD in the 13".

It's not a 'totally new design" but a nice evolution of the original product. Put the two side by side and this is obvious.



Which is the new one?

I hadn't realised how similar they looked! There are some giveaways (the black strip at the hinge, the lack of a separate trackpad button, the higher resolution of the one on the right) but at first glance they look like the same computer.

...you're a lucky git having two of them to compare!!
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You have a very odd definition of "remotely resemble" given all they did was add a USB port and SD card, did a speed bump and added a SSD in the 13".

It's not a 'totally new design" but a nice evolution of the original product. Put the two side by side and this is obvious.



Which is the new one?

You think because they have the keyboard and display in the same place and size they are the not different?

Check out the previous MBA to the new 11 MBA? Can you not see a difference? Since the 11 is new size that to me screams a redesign.

Check out the profile of the old and new MBAs. Does the tapered sizes not scream redesign?

What about the ports on both sides compared to the previous MBA with a trap door for everything buy the MagSafe connector?

They are completely new. There was no popping the innards from one into the other and calling it a day.
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You win the kewpie doll, sir:

http://www.learnenglish.de/grammar/nouncompound.htm






Cool that!

And as is well known, we always stick entirely on subject and only debate things of great moment and intellectual weight here on Apple Insider......

Me, I find some of the side conversations that break out (other than tediously and hideously personal flame/troll wars) the best part of a given thread, and the others, well, I'm a well-practiced scroller.

agreeed exxxcept affter 5 ppages it ggets boring

the horse was dead on ppage 3

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agreeed exxxcept affter 5 ppages it ggets boring

the horse was dead on ppage 3

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'Cept we didn't settle it with the definitive answer until p 5.

PS: What's with the "9" sign off? I'm now noticing it in all your posts..... ...kinda intriguing.

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'Cept we didn't settle it with the definitive answer until p 5.

PS: What's with the "9" sign off? I'm now noticing it in all your posts..... ...kinda intriguing.

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Totally agree. It's the best computer I've ever owned. In everyday use (excluding gaming) it's the fastest, most responsive computer I've ever used too.

The only thing I miss is dual monitors when I'm docked.

I don't know if the MB air has the technology yet ... Thunderbolt ... but it is a strong possibility. They do have mini display port(MDP)... Apple is known to include technology that only needs to be awakened with an upgrade in software.

Now if that is the way it turns out to be ... Thunderbolt gives you the ability to use the Air screen plus another monitor... I think you can do that now with a monitor that interfaces with MDP
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THE 9 IS THE FINAL good bye from a green eye lass from Ireland

pauline was her name

she posted on the EMI PINK FLOUYD SITE

some trolls and flame boys really attacked her bad

pauline went silent for a few hrs

yet she was still signed on <<watching waiting and very hurt I am sure

60 or so pink floyd members went silent with her

the trolls went ape shit trashing the whole site

at 3 am her final post ever flashed on the EMI SITE .


..... 9 .......


<<< a simple single number >>>>
and in her honor I sign off with a 9
nine
9
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and you will see that 9 is everywhere .
i warn you thou / 9 can be a heavy burden at times


peace dude


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