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Originally Posted by Splash-reverse View Post

You don't see report saying Ford have sold over 14 millions Ford Focuses, do you?

Well, Ford Foci would just sound silly. Of course Toyota did recently declare that the plural of Prius is Prii...

http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/prius-family/
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Let's face it the original AIRs took a good concept and buggered it. They are possibly the best example in recent memory of design over function. The new AIRs did a 180 and successfully packaged up exactly what most people need in a light weight travel laptop. A triumph of function over design.

I don't agree. Apple used essentially the same design concept since the original MBA. The same design that countless of ranters on this forum assaulted Apple for. Why buy a crippled Macbook Pro? Can't play Crysis. It use's an "outdated" core2duo CPU!! Ghast!!

I was totally happy with my 2.5 year old MBA. It was a solid machine. If the new MBA never came, I would still have been happy using it. I sold it two months ago for a very, very nice chunk of change and applied it to my new MBA. What other trashy ulta-mobile machine can say the same thing?

Where are those ranters now? The MBA still has that same Core2Duo chip! Still has that same form factor. Still one of the more "expensive" (not much so) laptops around compared the garbage referred to as netbooks, and it is a ridiculously fast machine now.

With the huge success of the MBA, those critics are nowhere to be heard. Once again praise goes to Apple to ignoring those critics and moving forward on their beliefs head-on against the opposition. We'd still be stuck with clunky lead-weights of the 90's if the geeks, nerds, and tech-heads called the shots.
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THE FUTURE IS HERE, TODAY, and it's called MB AIR!

Agreed!

But for too long, we have been conditioned to believe that a faster processor and more memory resulted in a far superior, faster and better experience. I won't point any fingers, but with the release of the "Air" Apple disproved that way of thinking - at least for me. That's why now when I turn on the idiot box and see manufacturers boasting about how fast you can type out a text message, or about how the snap dragon processor will cure cancer, I get a nice little chuckle. They obviously don't own a MacBook Air.

At the end of the keynote Wednesday, Steve addressed this very thing - And once again the tech world took his message to mean Apple has conceded performance to its competitors. It's sad - very sad.
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Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

We agree up to this point.


MacBook is a noun. Air is used as an adjective. The noun gets the 's' and the adjective doesn't.

I want a 15" MacBook Air.

That's not right. MacBook Air is the name of the product.
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Let's face it the original AIRs took a good concept and buggered it.

I see it as Apple took a good concept and made it great - They used what they learned as the foundation for perfecting the current iteration. And I absolutely love it.
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Seeing the iPad will never have the Cortex-A9 I would say both of you are incorrect. The iPad 2 will have the A5 which is not just another name for the A9.

No need to believe me on this one.

http://www.arm.com/products/processo...ex-a/index.php

Right.. and AAPL will "never" hit $270 in this economy as you've said in the past. You should seriously consider removing the word "Never" from your vocabulary. Would do you better in forum postings.

Apple is using ARM's reference design for the A9 (and prior A8) and modifying it to suit their needs. Hence, we had the A4 and A5 chips. Nowhere does it say that Apple is required to use the "A8" or "A9" name. A4 and A5 is Apple's own name for their own use. Heck, they could have called it "Pixie-dust" and ARM could care less.
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Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post

Yeah, of course lowering the price opens the door to new buyers, but neither you nor tipoo have made a case for this being advantageous for Apple. Are you sure they can still get a good profit at that price point? How are you sure that they aren’t selling as many as they can make at $999? If $799 is good then $599 is even better, and $399 is even better than that, and $199 is better still, which makes throwing out a number because you like the way it looks a fruitless way to form an argument for a company lowering their price.


No, I have no idea about their profit margins. I was just speaking to the statement that the 13 inch MBP and the MBA are probably eating the macbooks lunch in terms of sales, its just not compelling at that price.
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

My 3-month old 13" MBA is a treat to use each time. I actually end up using it more than my 27" i7 iMac now. The SSD setup makes my MBA much faster for everyday use. Phenomenal machine.

I would question your need for a desktop system if you think the Air is more productive for your needs.
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Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

MacBook is a noun. Air is used as an adjective. The noun gets the 's' and the adjective doesn't.

The MacBook Air is great but I'm satisfied with my MacBooks Pro for the time being.

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post #50 of 195
The Macbook Air has proven itself as a mainstream product. I've been seeing a ton of them lately- 4 just in the coffee shop tonight. Apple should just go ahead and drop the white Macbook this year and call it a day. They can also drop the 'Air' from the line and simply advertise them as Macbooks.
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Happy MBA owner, but to say it is almost as good as a 27" i7 (which I also own) is a bit of a hyperbole. AutoCAD in Parallels is noticably slow, although I wouldn't expect much more. MS Office on the other hand, I would have expected no noticable different. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

Each has their purpose, and happy to use each for it's strengths. Just wish it wasn't as painful to deal with ACAD. Also really wish it had an ethernet port; the lack of one defeats the purpose of bringing it into the office at all.
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Absolutely loving my 13" ultimate MBA. Best computer I've ever owned. I slip it in my shoulder bag and hardly know it's there, great battery life, beautiful screen. Couldn't ask for anything more than this.
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I want a MacBook Air but I'll wait til the first revision to have a Thunderbolt port. I need to be able to access decent video files, ProRes and bigger (not edit them especially, just deal with media) and the idea of having to buy an MBP just to get that is stopping me in my tracks. So please. Thunderbolt on the Air, soon!
post #54 of 195
It's no surprise given how popular PC netbooks have been. Combine that will Apple's skills in industrial design and consumers go gaga.
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Happy MBA owner, but to say it is almost as good as a 27" i7 (which I also own) is a bit of a hyperbole. AutoCAD in Parallels is noticably slow, although I wouldn't expect much more. MS Office on the other hand, I would have expected no noticable different. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

Each has their purpose, and happy to use each for it's strengths. Just wish it wasn't as painful to deal with ACAD. Also really wish it had an ethernet port; the lack of one defeats the purpose of bringing it into the office at all.

Which is why I said that for every-day tasks, my MBA is more pleasant to use. I use my i7 iMac for the heavy-duty CPU stuff which thankfully, I only need access to when I'm at home.

My MBA is mainly for business-use like Office, 5250 sessions, etc... For this type of work, my iMac may be faster for the CPU stuff, but is hindered by a slow hard drive. My MBA may have a slower CPU, but it more than makes up for it for it's crazy-fast SSD setup. The SSD can finally keep up with the CPU and it makes a huge world of difference in everyday computing.
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I was one of those who bought one of the 1,000,000 MacsBooks Airs. Great computer. I got the top of the line 11" and it is the best electronic device i have ever purchased.
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Originally Posted by zunx View Post

Apple should make a really portable MacBook Air:

- 400 to 600 g.
- 5 to 7-inch screen.
- Pocketable.

The ultimate Keynote and PowerPoint presentation tool!

Just when I thought I would never hear you say this kind of list again

Know what? There is already a device like that! It's called "Dell Streak"

It is also a steaming pile of bull crap.

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post #58 of 195
IMO, the Air is now much less of a value now that the iPad 2 is out. Still a great computer, though.

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post #59 of 195
Imagine how many they'll sell if they upgrade to Sandy Bridge processors and add the Thunderbolt port...

Also, the default 2GB RAM is woefully inadequate in 2011.

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post #60 of 195
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You wish you owned my shares. Seeing Steves Jobs looks about as healthy as the crypt keeper with a black shirt on hopefully they will still be worth something next year.

Your posts are getting nastier and tiresome.

Stop it.
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You wish you owned my shares. Seeing Steves Jobs looks about as healthy as the crypt keeper with a black shirt on hopefully they will still be worth something next year.

So your stock picking knowledge is no better than your computer knowledge. Gotcha.

If you think that the shares might be worth nothing next year, why in the world do you still have them?

Other than the obvious explanation that you're simply lying, of course.
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I was one of those who bought one of the 1,000,000 MacsBooks Airs. Great computer. I got the top of the line 11" and it is the best electronic device i have ever purchased.

Without question. It's the first portable computer that really is both an excellent spec'ed machine and superbly portable. The original Air was nice, but I needed 4GB of RAM, and having the SSD as a default / lower prices / faster GPU and the 'magical' form factor of the 11" version sealed the deal. I had had been drooling all over it at the store, and couldn't be happier now owning one.

Heavy lifting at my desk is still on my Mac Pro, but I can't replace that with any laptop since I don't want to give up the performance for rendering, but then my laptop should be a real portable since it's not competing with a tower on raw specs. And it doesn't have to - I can't drop the Pro in a bag and not even notice it.
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

So your stock picking knowledge is no better than your computer knowledge. Gotcha.

If you think that the shares might be worth nothing next year, why in the world do you still have them?

Other than the obvious explanation that you're simply lying, of course.

I'll go with simply lying.
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac View Post

IMO, the Air is now much less of a value now that the iPad 2 is out. Still a great computer, though.

I agree with you now that Apple has also released iMovie and GarageBand for iOS. It is becoming more and more useful and we don't need the traditional laptop as much anymore. The A5 should leave no doubt that Apple is all-in for "post-PC" products - in other words OSX's days are numbered.

iOS will eventually replace OSX. 10.7 is the last OSX release as beyond that OSX and iOS will merge leaving iOS. This is just like the Server and Client versions of OSX 10.7 being the same as there won't be a separate Server release.

It is clear that Apple wink with the "post-PC" message means we'll soon be seeing iOS in other form factors. Built into televisions, automobiles, and appliances anyone? That refrigerator could use a touchscreen and iOS.
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Hey! I'm an Apple fansboy!

Best post this week.
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This is in sharp contrast to the old AIRs where the design didn't even bother with usability factors.
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Really? 180 degrees? What "opposite direction" are you referring? What failure are you referring? Anecdotally I know plenty of people that loved their original MBAs.

Yes many did like them. However many did not resulting in a glut of second hand units. The thermal throttling problems that the originals had was a big issue.

In any event the failure I'm speaking of is the original AIRs lack of success in the marketplace. Many companies would have simply dropped the machine. In Apples case though they refactored the AIR into a very desirable product.
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Are you not aware that Apple continued with the original MBA design, not went the other way with it, and even incorporated it into their other notebooks?

Clearly you can't read for content.
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What other ultraportable 13" notebook sold better than the original MBA?

Do you have sales numbers for the original AIRs? Nothing I've seen indicated great success, certainly not in the way we are hearing about the grand slam the new AIRs are. Beyond that very little of the new AIRs have not been completely refactored, they are like the old AIRs in name only.
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PS: Were you the poster that said Apple wouldn't be able to ship dual-core Cortex-A9 in the next iPad until late on the year?

You either have me mixed up with someone else or are not reading for content again. I'm the one that said it would be stupid for Apple to deliver iPad 2 without a dual core Cortex A9 derived CPU. The question right now is what exactly is in the new A5 chip, it is dual core so there is a high probability that it is Cortex A9 derived.
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Also, the default 2GB RAM is woefully inadequate in 2011.

Not for most MacBook Air uses that consider the MBA a fashion accessory....
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It's really time for Apple to retire the vanilla Macbook. If $1000 is the best that can be done with it, I really don't think it has a place in the lineup anymore. Eliminate it and direct people to getting MBA's instead.
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I have been 3 times to the Apple Store since the release of the MBP and every times the Air table had a lot more people than the MBP table.

I went today and there was 3 people over the MBP while the MBA table was pack. Its pretty obvious people want a notebook like the Air
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...MacBook is a noun. Air is used as an adjective. The noun gets the 's' and the adjective doesn't...

Years ago, I anticipated the arrival of the MBAs (NOT MBsA!) I'd be walking down the street, watching the Fords Fairlane and Chevrolets Corvair drive by, and think, "someday, when mankind's reached a higher level of intelligence, i hope someone introduces something called a computer and gets the pluralizing process straightened out."
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I don't agree. Apple used essentially the same design concept since the original MBA. The same design that countless of ranters on this forum assaulted Apple for. Why buy a crippled Macbook Pro? Can't play Crysis. It use's an "outdated" core2duo CPU!! Ghast!!

The new AIRs are a totally new design. They are derived from the same concept but new machines are far more suited to the needs of the targeted users.
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I was totally happy with my 2.5 year old MBA. It was a solid machine. If the new MBA never came, I would still have been happy using it. I sold it two months ago for a very, very nice chunk of change and applied it to my new MBA. What other trashy ulta-mobile machine can say the same thing?

It is fine that you are happy, however many AIR users weren't.
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Where are those ranters now? The MBA still has that same Core2Duo chip! Still has that same form factor. Still one of the more "expensive" (not much so) laptops around compared the garbage referred to as netbooks, and it is a ridiculously fast machine now.

The new AIRs are vastly improved and only remotely resemble the old systems. That is what makes them the great machines that they are.
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With the huge success of the MBA, those critics are nowhere to be heard.

Nobody is saying that the new MBAs aren't a great success. In fact praise for the new machines is almost universal. I'm not sure what your problem is here.
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Once again praise goes to Apple to ignoring those critics and moving forward on their beliefs head-on against the opposition.

Now this is complete BS!!!!! The new AIRs are what they are because Apple did listen to critics as well as users. They then completely refactored the machine into wha we have today. They basically took a marginal machine and created a hot seller.
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We'd still be stuck with clunky lead-weights of the 90's if the geeks, nerds, and tech-heads called the shots.

You really don't grasp what I've posted. I have nothing but respect for the current AIRs. That is good because the old ones where junk.
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When do you think they will refresh the Air? I want one but need a faster CPU. I understand the SSD drive makes it "look" fast, but I need a more powerfull machine.
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Originally Posted by rtdunham View Post

Years ago, I anticipated the arrival of the MBAs (NOT MBsA!) I'd be walking down the street, watching the Fords Fairlane and Chevrolets Corvair drive by, and think, "someday, when mankind's reached a higher level of intelligence, i hope someone introduces something called a computer and gets the pluralizing process straightened out."

You have to forgive some of the people on here. They had to leave reading The Knight's Wife of Bath on their MacBooks Air in order to go singe the King's beard of SpainThey still think it's 1588.
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When do you think they will refresh the Air? I want one but need a faster CPU. I understand the SSD drive makes it "look" fast, but I need a more powerfull machine.

It doesn't just look faster, it is faster. That SSD isn't an illusion of the drive being faster than a HDD, it is absolutely faster.

If the small form factor ultra low voltage CPUs they are using now aren't powerful enough for your needs why expect the next generation MBAs to be powerful enough for your needs, especially when you haven't stated what those needs are?
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Imagine how many they'll sell if they upgrade to Sandy Bridge processors and add the Thunderbolt port...

Also, the default 2GB RAM is woefully inadequate in 2011.

Yup yup yup yup yup

I'm pretty sure my next computer will be a Sandy Bridge ULV MBA with 4GB RAM, probably 13".

Yes, I know the onboard video will be comparatively sucky, but I don't care. It'll be a nice machine for Safari / Pages / MS Office / FileMaker Pro / Ruby web development / MAME.

Also, props to my current MacBook 2,1 (2006), which still feels nice to use. It's the first time that I've had a computer hold up so well for 5 years, despite my regular regimen of abuse
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We agree up to this point.


MacBook is a noun. Air is used as an adjective. The noun gets the 's' and the adjective doesn't.

I want a 15" MacBook Air.

If Air is an adjective, why did you capitalize it? Shouldn't you be saying "MacBook air" if air is merely an adjective? The only reason to capitalize it is if it is part of the name.

The term MacBook Air is a proper noun (a name) and the s goes at the end. I can't believe this was actually debated.
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Right.. and AAPL will "never" hit $270 in this economy as you've said in the past. You should seriously consider removing the word "Never" from your vocabulary. Would do you better in forum postings.

Apple is using ARM's reference design for the A9 (and prior A8) and modifying it to suit their needs. Hence, we had the A4 and A5 chips. Nowhere does it say that Apple is required to use the "A8" or "A9" name. A4 and A5 is Apple's own name for their own use. Heck, they could have called it "Pixie-dust" and ARM could care less.

Pixie Dust was the code name for the A4. The A5 was code named Unicorn Tears.
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No just making the point that the guy that wanted to keep bragging about stock prices doesn't own a single share. In my book that makes him the fool not me. There isn't a person on here that hasn't made a prediction or given an opinion that has been wrong at some point. So while I was wrong about the stock price increase in this economy at least I have skin in the game. I don't have too or feel the need to lie about anything.

If people think they can get me to leave they can't, if you think you can get under my skin, you can't I will get under yours first and stay there. Like I said in my preious post if you want respect you better be willing to give it in return.

As far as my computer knowledge I do pretty well in that area.

Now maybe we can actually get back to talking about technology.

Actually, as usual you're spinning your comments to suit your agenda, and doing it quite badly. But hey, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt while everyone else is calling you out.

By all means skater, I welcome you to search any posting I've ever made since the beginning of time where I said I do not own AAPL, or even implied to the smallest degree that I do not own AAPL. You will find none, because there are none. What you will find are a few postings beginning with "As an AAPL owner...." and that's about it. You were quite upset at everyone's excitement during that time for some strange reason.

What you refer to as my "bragging", you're confusing perhaps with comments I made (along with many other AAPL owners at the time) about Apple's stock price going from the $170's, to $250's and higher is such a short time frame. Everyone was jumping up and down saying the same thing "My AAPL stock looks better every day". Is that bragging or sticking it in someone's face? I don't think so. That's called "excitement" for believing in a company, taking a financial risk, and being rewarded for taking that risk.

What you did was very well remembered. While we were enjoying AAPL's performance and dissecting the reasons behind it, you were quite vocal with how AAPL would "NEVER" reach $270, criticizing folks for their excitement during those depressing financial times and insulting people for not agreeing with you and your negative predictions which in the end resulted in you providing quite a good amount of colorful personal attacks.

Even with all your rhetoric and negativity back then and now, I kept my cool along with another well-respected forum member you were attacking. We all make mistakes and certainly none of us are perfect. However, the next time you decide to call someone a liar without even an shred of proof, all you're doing is behaving badly and proving to everyone that the only person not being truthful is you.

But I do agree with your last sentence. I'll stick with the subject of technology from this point forward by saying the same thing that began your path downhill: As an AAPL owner, I'm happy to hear that Apple is proving the critics wrong yet again by creating great products that consumers love and for once again having another blowout quarter during one of the most difficult economic times ever.
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Pixie Dust was the code name for the A4. The A5 was code named Unicorn Tears.

Really? I got $10 bucks that the A6 will be code-named Chair-Thrower. I think that would be a great tribute to Ballmer.
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Remembering the dumbest rumors: Remember when there were silly rumors saying Apple's 2nd chip based off Cortex-A designs would be called A8 even though using the Cortex-A9 reference designs.
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