Rep. Peter King, Duplicitosaurus Rex.

Originally Posted by sammi jo

I am not into name-calling, but there are few words which can describe Rep. Peter King (R, NY) better than "duplicitous scum ball of the worst variety".

Article here.

The gall of this man is stunning beyond all belief. And as someone who had a much older relative as well as one of his closest friends murdered by the Provisional IRA in the UK some years ago, I understand that I am coming from a somewhat biased point of view. I also understand that King is not alone in the general hatred that has become endemic in this country for Muslims... the general (privately held) DC view is that they are all terrorists and should be rounded up in internment camps and done away with... (if they had their way)... but King is not someone who has any moral or ethical grounds to make *ANY* decision or judgement about terrorism... and worse yet, he is the the chair of the House Homeland "Security" (?!!) Committee.

Here is the kind of activity that this rotten evil bastard apparently supported: This particular blast in Manchester (central northern England) was caused by a truck bomb loaded with 3500lbs (1.5 tons) of military grade Semtex (+ ammonium nitrate) high explosives causing >$1 Billion of destruction and injuring 200+. The IRA, funded in part by US based organizations such as the Manhattan based NORAID, (and also aided from other nations) detonated hundreds of bombs in the UK and European mainland between the 1970s and 2000, and was responsible for killing 1800+ civilians and injuring 10s of thousands.

And here's Peter King... spearheading the demonization of an entire religious/ethnic group, on because some kid (patsy) like Abdul Mutallab (the underwear bomber) can get escorted onto a plane with FBI assistance and conveniently fail to detonate a device that could never have exploded in the first place... for one example.

The differences between the IRA in Europe and "Islamists" in the US is considerable.
*IRA members are from an approved religious faith in the US understanding. Militant Islam are Muslims (duh?)... ie not approved
*IRA attacked soft targets on a daily/weekly basis. Militant Islamist attacks in the US are rare, and are almost exclusively fingered on patsies who are consistently and intimately linked to FBI informants.
*The IRA went for targets where security was low or nonexistent, thus guaranteeing the success of the operation. Islamists have an obsession with airports and airplanes, the most secure places, thus guaranteeing the failure of their operation.. but with maximum media coverage and publicity.

King and his IRA thug buddies can go rot in hell. Terrorists Я US?

Originally Posted by sammi jo

And as someone who had a much older relative as well as one of his closest friends murdered by the Provisional IRA in the UK some years ago, I understand that I am coming from a somewhat biased point of view.

Originally Posted by tonton

Anyone else notice this?

Originally Posted by sammi jo

Grammatical error... My English uncle and his friend, who were in a bar in Birmingham in the UK back in 1974. It should have been obvious to the reader that I was not referring to my friend. Had it been my friend I would have referred to that person in the first person, not the third. The pettiness, obsession with trivia, and comprehension "skills" that are sometimes displayed in here is breathtaking.

I guess that in P.O. I have to be *exact* in my expression or someone's going to pick it apart and come to an idiotic conclusion... rather than add to the thread of course.

Originally Posted by sammi jo

I am not into name-calling, but there are few words which can describe Rep. Peter King (R, NY) better than "duplicitous scum ball of the worst variety".

Article here.

The gall of this man is stunning beyond all belief. And as someone who had a much older relative as well as one of his closest friends murdered by the Provisional IRA in the UK some years ago, I understand that I am coming from a somewhat biased point of view.

I also understand that King is not alone in the general hatred that has become endemic in this country for Muslims... the general (privately held) DC view is that they are all terrorists and should be rounded up in internment camps and done away with... (if they had their way)... but King is not someone who has any moral or ethical grounds to make *ANY* decision or judgement about terrorism... and worse yet, he is the the chair of the House Homeland "Security" (?!!) Committee.

And here's Peter King... spearheading the demonization of an entire religious/ethnic group, on because some kid (patsy) like Abdul Mutallab (the underwear bomber) can get escorted onto a plane with FBI assistance and conveniently fail to detonate a device that could never have exploded in the first place... for one example.

The differences between the IRA in Europe and "Islamists" in the US is considerable.
*IRA members are from an approved religious faith in the US understanding. Militant Islam are Muslims (duh?)... ie not approved

*IRA attacked soft targets on a daily/weekly basis. Militant Islamist attacks in the US are rare, and are almost exclusively fingered on patsies who are consistently and intimately linked to FBI informants.

*The IRA went for targets where security was low or nonexistent, thus guaranteeing the success of the operation. Islamists have an obsession with airports and airplanes, the most secure places, thus guaranteeing the failure of their operation.. but with maximum media coverage and publicity.

King and his IRA thug buddies can go rot in hell. Terrorists Я US?

Originally Posted by sammi jo

SDW, did you realize that Peter King was the chief fundraisers for NORAID, the US organization which was responsible, amongst others in the Irish-American community, for arming and equipping the Provisional IRA, a terrorist group responsible for so much carnage in the UK and Europe for some 30 years?

from the article:



If are aware of this, yet still support this person and his raging hypocrisy, you are taking a position of support for a man who activated one of the world's most active terrorist gangs. Peter King has the blood of thousands on his filthy, corrupt hands. By the way, if this character was a political liberal, no doubt you would be frothing and foaming at the mouth.

If you are not aware of his history, then I suggest you do a reality check, rather than massaging your comfort zone with its usual diet of corporate media drivel and its accompanying authoritarian propaganda.

***

By not condemning this man's admitted affiliations, it appears that SDW is open to supporting international terrorism?

Originally Posted by sammi jo

Try the wikipedia link to Peter King.

Support for the IRA
In the 1980s, King frequently traveled to Northern Ireland to meet with IRA members.[12] In 1982, speaking at a pro-IRA rally in Nassau County, New York, King said: We must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry.[12][18] "In 1985, he convened a press conference before the start of New York City's St. Patrick's Day parade (for which he was Grand Marshal), and offered a defiant defense of the IRA: 'As we march up the avenue and share all the joy,' he declared, 'let us never forget the men and women who are suffering and, most of all, the men and women who are fighting.'"[19] Regarding the 30 years of violence during which the IRA killed over 1700 people, including over 600 civilians, King said, ""If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it". King compared IRA leader Gerry Adams to George Washington and asserted that the "British government is a murder machine". [20]
He called the IRA "the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland."[21] A Northern Irish judge ordered King ejected from the former's courtroom, describing him as an obvious collaborator with the IRA.[12] King called himself "the Ollie North of Ireland."[19] King did not meet Gerry Adams until 1984, four years after his liaison with the IRA began [1] and before that his links with the IRA were predominantly with its military, rather than the political wing, Sinn Fein. At this time he was friendly with Michael McKevitt, the common law partner of Bernadette Sands, sister of the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands. McKevitt was at the time a senior leader of the IRA and was its Quarter Master-General, in charge of arms acquisition. McKevitt planned a massive series of arms smuggling operations of weapons provided to the IRA by Libyan leader, Col. Muammar Gaddafi during the mid-1980's. During this time, King would stay in their home in Co. Louth while visiting Ireland and was also very close to the IRA's former Operations Officer in Belfast, Anto Murray, who was convicted in 1990 of kidnapping a suspected British spy. As Belfast Operations Officer, Murray planned or authorised every IRA bombing, shooting and killing in the city. King would stay with Murray and his wife Lucy during visits to Belfast and after Anto Murray was imprisoned, he hosted Lucy Murray on a tour of the Capitol when she visited the United States. [2] He became involved with NORAID, an organization that the British, Irish and US governments accuse of financing IRA activities and providing them with weapons.[12][22][23][24] He was banned from appearing on British TV for his pro IRA views and refusing to condemn IRA activity in the UK.[12] When the Archbishop of New York embraced King at the city's St. Patrick's Day Parade, the Daily Mail "dedicated an entire editorial to the affair and called it the 'handshake of shame.'"[19]
In 1993, King lobbied for Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams to be a guest at the inauguration of President Bill Clinton.[19] In 2000, he called then-presidential candidate George W. Bush a tool of "anti-Catholic bigoted forces," after Bush visited Bob Jones University in South Carolina, "an institution that is notorious in Ireland for awarding an honorary doctorate to Northern Ireland's tempestuous Protestant leader, Ian Paisley."[12]
He stopped supporting the IRA after being offended by Irish public opposition to the invasion of Iraq, labelling it as begrudgery rather than suspicion of and opposition to the war.[12]
In 2008, King spoke in defense of bail for a fugitive IRA member, Pól Brennan, who had escaped from prison in the UK and been detained in Texas 15 years later. The IRA member, who had broken out of prison during the Maze Prison escape and entered America illegally,[25] was being held without bail after his work permit expired; King said: "My experience dealing with (Irish) republicans is that they don't jump bail in this country. They honor their commitments."[26]

There you go. Even the sanitized wikipedia includes this stuff.

SDW, try a little experiment here: Replace the phrase "IRA" for "al Qaeda". Then replace the phrase "Peter King R-NY" with, say, a fictitious Muslim congressman named "Salim Mohammed D-XY".

We have a major terrorist enabler working in Congress, and a blind eye is being turned. What's new? Oh, lest we forget, the IRA are (nominally) "Christian"... ie Roman Catholic. Perhaps, in the light of decades of anti-semitic indoctrination of the US public against the world's Arab and Muslim communities, it is politically too incorrect to associate the terms "terrorist" and "Catholic". (Or "terrorist and Christian", or terrorist and anything else except the M word).

Probably enough said.

Originally Posted by sammi jo

The IRA's campaign in the UK (and Europe) consisting of bombings, shootings, kneecappings, tarring and feathering, kidnappings, rapings, muggings, beatings and more, on a daily basis. The deaths inflicted by that terrorist group in the UK, paid for by King and his cronies in one province in the UK, if translated proportionally in the US, would represent over 300,000 people dead. Yes, the IRA was a "bona fide" terror group which attacked soft targets on a DAILY BASIS.

Al Qaeda comes nowhere near that.

Neither is the world's Muslim community. However, you would prefer to believe the Islamophobic propaganda emanating from DC, presumably because you'r comfortable with that.

Of course they don't, or didn't. They were supported and funded BY US groups (amongst others). Where is your PROOF that Muslim sleeper cells are nascent in the US... apart from what the gang of liars, thugs and hatemongers that comprised the most senior components of the Bush Administration claimed, with the aim of terrorizing the US population with that claim?

Yeah, yeah. If you're not with us, then you're against us. If you support KIng, then you are supporting terror. Period.

Both are to do with the radicalization of religion. However, in the eyes of the US powers that be, some terrorists are fine n dandy, and others are to be squashed.

That's King's excuse. Listen to what the man says, and as far as he (and many on DC on all sides of the political fence) are concerned, *ALL* Muslims are targets.

As I said... King is a Republican. If he was from a different political stripe, you would be blowing fuses.

Originally Posted by sammi jo

Read, and digest.
King has claimed that "talking about Muslims as terrorists is a reality that Americans need to face, even if it makes them uncomfortable".

KIng has also stated baldly that "there are too many mosques in this country". King claimed today in the hearings that he was "misquoted", and he meant to say that "there were too many mosques that didn't cooperate with law enforcement". However: Watch the video in the link above: King lied. In 2007, he actually *DID* utter the "too many mosques" statement in 2007. Caught redhanded. How many mosques is too many for King? Probably one. Lets ask King how many churches are too many? How many synagogues, or Buddhist temples are "too many"?

To quote from the same article: "Earlier, King had said in an interview with radio and television host Sean Hannity that 85 percent of the mosques in this country are controlled by extremist leadership,.Hmm.. 85% is a huge majority, basically assuming that almost "all Muslims were "associated with terrorists". From where does he get this "information"? MEMRI?

Not only that, but King also asserts that "all terrorists are Muslims". He refuses to recognize terrorist acts, or the relevance of terrorist acts committed by non-Muslims. King also has stated that Muslims are not Americans when it comes to war.

King's mindset is so obvious, it should be apparent to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.



You started talking about "sleeper cells". Where did you get this information from? What is your *evidence*?

Originally Posted by sammi jo

Wait a minute. I don't know the man, so how can I hate *him*? However, as the chief funder of one of the most active and deadly terror gangs in modern history, I find it *extraordinary* that he can end up in the position of chair of the House Homeland Security Committee. Or, perhaps in these Orwellian times of inverted sensibilities, it comes as no surprise?

Oh my. We're getting somewhere. Woop de frikkin' doo! Even on CNN....



6%. A good portion.

Or even less than that... 0.4% and if you read this article, you might find comfort in the study that indicates left wing terrorist activity vastly outweighs right wing terrorist activity... by some 25:1.

Hang on.... what do you mean by "radicalized? Lots of people become radicalized to a cause.... Lets not trash another perfectly useful word in the English language.

Terrorists should not be in Congress. Agree?

For sure. And his efforts killed a lot of innocent civilians.

I quote links regardless of political affiliation. Go back through my posts and you find links from all persuasions, from websites which promote anything between socialism (say, Mother Jones) and fascism (say Fox news), and all points between.

Originally Posted by sammi jo

"Destroy the West". The FBI's statistics re. "radicalized" Islam in the US don't support that paranoid assertion. Europe's law enforcement stats don't agree either. If a radicalized element within Islam "wants to destroy the West", they are either (a) lazy, (b) terminally ineffectual (c) unmotivated (d) unable (e) wild fantasies (f) the projection of anger by those who may have lost loved ones via US bombings... (everyone can relate to grief being accompanied by anger). It's all bark, no bite.. and in the perpetual absence of a genuine "bite", an occasional "attempt" at a "bite" is manufactured and promoted by the authorities/media, presumably to maintain the perceived "justification" for going after these people, both at home and abroad. Cue Abdul Mutallab etc.

According to whichever survey one acknowledges, there are between 3 and 6 million US citizens who are Muslim. According to King, 80%+ of US mosques are being radicalized, "all Muslims should be suspected as being terrorists"... and "all terrorist acts are caused by Muslims". All bogus claims. Now, imagine the millions of easy, low security opportunities available to these millions of terrorists to "Destroy the West". Perhaps these hordes of radicalized Muslims should be reading "Terrorism for Dummies". Perhaps they should do some research into Rep. King's methods of funding and enabling terrorism in the UK and Europe....

The current strife in the M.E. is about their people doing *now*, after 1000 years of foreign domination, abuse, meddling and pillage, what our people did in 1776, after centuries of similar abuse, at the hands of England.

A far more likely scenario, especially bearing *facts* and *stated aims* in mind (which of course won't sit very comfortably with you) would be: "The West Wants to Destroy Islam". In the last 10 years, Western casualties at the hands of Muslims is exceeded by the inverse by a factor of thousands... even if one includes the "Muslims did 9/11" conspiracy theory.


One second. That's all it deserved. I am about as much a fan as Obama as I am of Cheney. (At least, with the latter, he was up front, and we knew where we stood).

So, please do inform the world about Obama's ties to international terrorism.. (apart from his authorization of the indiscriminately lobbing of drones at innocent Pakistani civilians). If you know something about B.O. that we don't, lets hear it!



wandering off topic here...

Actually, although Fox does promotes corporatism (which is synonymous to fascism) I suggest you read the mainstream Venezuelan media's uncensored daily commentaries about Hugo Chavez. Fox News on steroids! You'd love it!