Originally Posted by rnb2
If this was really the case to any measurable extent, Apple would do something about it. The fact that they haven't suggests that they probably know more about their business than you do. What part of "Apple is succeeding wildly in the market by not emulating the rest of the PC industry" do you not understand?
Apple is doing very well with it's laptop line but the results are highly mixed on the desktop. You should realize this at this point.
Apple is not, and will never be, a company that is going to try to hit every market segment with a particular model of Mac - they've been there before, and that way lies inventory madness.
It is rather silly to point that out because hitting every market segment was never suggested. In fact that would be rather stupid. However leaving a huge hole in you line up is the same thing as giving up on a very large market segment.
Two simple facts:
1) Apple has OS X
Which has nothing to do with this discussion! Further software is useless without the right hardware to run it on.
2) Apple is only going to make a limited number of Mac configurations
Which is fine no one asked for an unlimited number of Mac models. In this regards I'm not sure why you try to twist the discussion in such a way. Focus on what is being discussed instead of what your imagination comes up with.
If you want 1), you will buy some version of 2) (or do a Hackintosh, but the people willing to put up with the pain and uncertainty of that approach are far from Apple's real target market).
Nope! Where it is a problem I can just run Linux. In some cases I'd rather run Mac OS but it is easier to simply follow the path of least resistance.
The iMac is a form factor that no other manufacturer has been able to duplicate with any success. Why? Because it goes against the licensed-and-cobbled-together ethos of commodity PC companies, where everything is a slave to the slim profit margins of the business. The iMac looks great, it's a very functional, practical design for a wide swath of the market, and it's good value-for-money.
Please don't drink the koolaide in public, it makes you look foolish!
By the way the iMac can be good value for the money if it fits the users requirements. I often reccomend the machine when people ask. The point you can't seem to get through your head is that iMac is an extremely poor choice for many users and that Apple has no economical alternatives.
And if they put the same components in an Xmac, Apple has no way of ensuring that they make the money on a display purchase, so the incentive to do it is nonexistent.
They don't make money on a display purchase with the iMac either. This is an entirely bogus arguement. For that matter they seldom make money on display purchases for the Mini, Mac Pro, AppleTV and even the laptops. Most importantly what Apple us missing is sales to people who want a reasonably priced platform, with a powerful GPU, that supports the display of their choice. You may not think that is significant niche but I simply disagree.
Growing demand for an Xmac? No, sorry - shrinking demand for an Xmac is the reality. Just about everyone clamoring for a powerful desktop that isn't a Mac Pro was silenced the minute the late 2009 iMacs were announced.
Not at all, the 2009 iMacs offered up nothing to the people seeking a flexible platform for their PC needs. Sadly you seem to want to believe this is all about the CPU, it isn't at all. Interestingly I do believe Apple could turn the iMac around and actually make it more flexible in some ways, however up til now they don't seem to be willing to do so.
This has been mentioned by others but one thing they could do in this regard is to make access to the secondary storage easier with the provision for multiple devices. Today's iMacs are huge devices, Apple has access to the technology to make them at once more powerful and flexible platforms. Instead they seem to focus on making high margin machines that leave a lot to be desired.
What size monitor are you looking for that the available choices don't satisfy? Whatever it is, the number of people who won't buy an iMac without that particular size being available probably numbers in the hundreds.
Are you even remotely in touch with the greater PC market and the types and variety of screens available? I ask because I can't possibly rationalize your question as their are hundreds of monitors for sale where as iMac gives you two options. See the problem there!
Your best bet going forward is the mini,
I didn't ask for your advice
but you'll have to get over your aversion to external expansion, and hope that Apple decides to make it more powerful.
I don't have an aversion to external expansion when it makes sense. What I do have is an aversion to hardware that doesn't support the type of flexibility I want. Some things simply belong in the primary chassis.
You can stomp your feet all you want, maybe even hold your breath until your face turns blue, but Apple has no interest in making an internally-expandable Mac smaller than the Mac Pro - that is, anything that looks like a mass-market PC. It doesn't fit their business or who they are as a company going forward.
Sadly if Apple doesn't have a change of heart we will see the Mac Pro going the way of the XServe and other low volume Apple hardware. The writing is pretty much on the wall here as the Pro is a terrible hardware deal beyond the fact that it is simply massive.
As to your concern about mass marjet PCs since when does anything Apple look like the competition? With today's tech the XMac does not need to be huge or in anyway bulky. Think about it we are asking for a desktop machine with a real GPU, internal storage expansion capability and possible a PCI express slot. Apple puts most of that into a laptop. Now granted a desktop would/should user faster desktop parts but intel has a very nice lineup of lower power parts coming that will allow for a rather compact but sound performing XMac.
In a nut shell it is sad that you are so willing to take whatever Apple throws your way. Personally I'm convinced that Apples desktop lineup is slowly going down the tubes. Much of the hardware is neglected in favor of the laptop line up and even when the hardware is touched the updates are uninspired.