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The seventh beta of Mac OS X 10.6.7, the forthcoming maintenance and security update for the Snow Leopard operating system, was released to developers by Apple this week.

People familiar with the latest build said the latest version of Mac OS X 10.6.7, like previous builds, contains no known issues. The software update is reportedly known as build 10J868.

The software in its delta update form is said to weigh in at 541.5MB. It was released to developers late Monday, and comes about two weeks after the release of the sixth beta of Mac OS X 10.6.7, released in late February.

Developers with access to the latest software have reportedly been asked to focus on the same areas in the new build, including Safari, the Mac App Store, Bonjour, SMB and Graphics Drivers.

Mac OS X 10.6.7 is not expected to include any major additions or features for end users of the Snow Leopard operating system. Apple has instead turned its attention to Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which is set to launch this summer with new iOS-inspired features like application home screens and full-screen applications.

The last update to Snow Leopard came in early January in the form of Mac OS X 10.6.6. That brought with it the Mac App Store, a new digital download destination for Mac software, modeled after the success of the iOS App Store for the iPhone and iPad.
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Originally Posted by Asst. Prof. View Post

Lion is going to be awesome. Will it kill Windows? Probably!


If by kill you mean give a slight boost to OSX marketshare. Windows isn't going anywhere for years at least, no matter how much we may resent it.

EDIT: Unless you didn't mean marketshare by "Kill"
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In theory TRIM should make it into 10.6.7

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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

If by kill you mean give a slight boost to OSX marketshare. Windows isn't going anywhere for years at least, no matter how much we may resent it.

EDIT: Unless you didn't mean marketshare by "Kill"

I'm going to agree with you, tipoo. Windows 7 was actually a pretty good update of a hell hole operating system to maintain and keep up and running properly. It was a good update, but not enough to keep me from finally making the switch.

I am very impressed with the ease and intuitiveness of use in Snow Leopard relative to Windows and won't be going back. I cut myself off completely and refuse to install Parallels or use Bootcamp or Fusion or anything else.

I'm not a "Power User" in the sense that I don't use any obscure programs that only are available for Windows.

Windows will never really lose meaningful marketshare until it begins to lose its foothold in the commercial sector, or 'enterprise' marketplace, as the new buzz word seems to be. If OS X can start to supplant Windows in any significant numbers there, then you will see the private/home market follow. We may actually be seeing the beginning of just such a scenario indirectly with iOS as the iPad and iPhone appear to be starting to really gain traction in just this space.

Exciting few years ahead to see what Apple's strategy here will be and how it will pan out.
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Originally Posted by Povilas View Post

In theory TRIM should make it into 10.6.7

Anyone know if TRIM will be in 10.6.7 for sure?
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Originally Posted by Asst. Prof. View Post

Lion is going to be awesome. Will it kill Windows? Probably!

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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

If by kill you mean give a slight boost to OSX marketshare. Windows isn't going anywhere for years at least, no matter how much we may resent it.

EDIT: Unless you didn't mean marketshare by "Kill"

I think you've been had by a first post troll.
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Originally Posted by CdnBook View Post

Anyone know if TRIM will be in 10.6.7 for sure?

If new MBP has it on 10.6.6, so makes sense.

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Anyone have any idea whether TRIM will be supported for the 2010 MacBook Airs ?
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Lion is going to be awesome. Will it kill Windows? Probably!

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I think you've been had by a first post troll.


Ah
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$20? $30?
I'm not paying anything over $50
Free would be great, but this is apple were talking about lol
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Originally Posted by super8sean View Post

$20? $30?
I'm not paying anything over $50
Free would be great, but this is apple were talking about lol

probably $129 .... thats what every other version of OSX has cost except 10.0 to 10.1 and the special upgrade version from 10.5 to 10.6.
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Originally Posted by Asst. Prof. View Post

It is a maintenance and security update. As such, it really should be free.

Stop smoking and it will come to you.

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Here's hoping Apple fixes the incompatibility between Safari and Flash on my 15" i7 Macbook Pro. The scrambled screens and reboots get very tiresome.
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Here's hoping Apple fixes the incompatibility between Safari and Flash on my 15" i7 Macbook Pro. The scrambled screens and reboots get very tiresome.

I hope Adobe fixes the incompatibility between Flash and computing devices: crashes in OS X, crashes in Vista, crashes in Ubuntu. Undoubtedly Adobe will tell me I'm visiting the wrong sites...

Back on topic, any news on any improvements to SMB in 10.6.7?
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- Fix the Font menu spacing issue
- Fix the iPhoto permissions export issue
- Fix the daily Safari hangs

Then I'll be happy.
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Originally Posted by super8sean View Post

$20? $30?
I'm not paying anything over $50
Free would be great, but this is apple were talking about lol

yes, this is Apple, LOL, thankful is not MicroSoft, otherwise kiss good bye to $229
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Originally Posted by super8sean View Post

$20? $30?
I'm not paying anything over $50
Free would be great, but this is apple were talking about lol

30 dollars was only done for Snow Leopard, as it added no new features. Other releases of OSX have been 130.
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Originally Posted by Asst. Prof. View Post

It is a maintenance and security update. As such, it really should be free.

Are you serious, or just baiting us?
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I think this update better correct the widespread freezing problem in the new Macbook Pros. Has anybody else experienced this freezing?
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

- Fix the Font menu spacing issue
- Fix the iPhoto permissions export issue
- Fix the daily Safari hangs

Then I'll be happy.

yeah whats with safari lately... snow leopard has become a bit of a dog in someways, i hope lion isnt a hog on resources.
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Originally Posted by acslater017 View Post

Are you serious, or just baiting us?

He's desperate for attention and is therefore baiting us. Don't get lured.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

yeah whats with safari lately... snow leopard has become a bit of a dog in someways, i hope lion isnt a hog on resources.

Well I came across prelim benchmarks somewhere, and Lion was definately faster. Of course you could also say that Lion brings us back to Leopard speeds
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Originally Posted by super8sean View Post

$20? $30?
I'm not paying anything over $50
Free would be great, but this is apple were talking about lol

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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post

Well I came across prelim benchmarks somewhere, and Lion was definately faster. Of course you could also say that Lion brings us back to Leopard speeds


Source?
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Originally Posted by acslater017 View Post

Are you serious, or just baiting us?

Either he is honestly referring to the 10.6.7 update and had not noticed that his reply could be understood as referring to 10.7 or is just playing with us.
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

Source?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...lion_dp1&num=1
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

If by kill you mean give a slight boost to OSX marketshare. Windows isn't going anywhere for years at least, no matter how much we may resent it.

EDIT: Unless you didn't mean marketshare by "Kill"

While Lion may not by itself kill MS, things are not looking good for the guys in Redmond.

Recent TechCrunch article:

In Two Years, Most Of You Will Be Reading TechCrunch From An Apple Device
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post #27 of 34
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Originally Posted by doh123 View Post

probably $129 .... thats what every other version of OSX has cost except 10.0 to 10.1 and the special upgrade version from 10.5 to 10.6.

Er, it's 10.6.7, not 10.7 - it will be free.
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Ya, that's the one.
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Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc View Post

While Lion may not by itself kill MS, things are not looking good for the guys in Redmond.

Recent TechCrunch article:

In Two Years, Most Of You Will Be Reading TechCrunch From An Apple Device


Smartphone and PMP sales will hardly impact MS's desktop and laptop stronghold. What you mention is relevant, but not what we were talking about.
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Originally Posted by tipoo View Post

Smartphone and PMP sales will hardly impact MS's desktop and laptop stronghold. What you mention is relevant, but not what we were talking about.

Plus enterprises won't touch Apple with a 10ft pole - especially after the XServe fiasco.
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Originally Posted by MyopicPaideia View Post

I'm going to agree with you, tipoo. Windows 7 was actually a pretty good update of a hell hole operating system to maintain and keep up and running properly. It was a good update, but not enough to keep me from finally making the switch.

I am very impressed with the ease and intuitiveness of use in Snow Leopard relative to Windows and won't be going back. I cut myself off completely and refuse to install Parallels or use Bootcamp or Fusion or anything else.

I'm not a "Power User" in the sense that I don't use any obscure programs that only are available for Windows.

Windows will never really lose meaningful marketshare until it begins to lose its foothold in the commercial sector, or 'enterprise' marketplace, as the new buzz word seems to be. If OS X can start to supplant Windows in any significant numbers there, then you will see the private/home market follow. We may actually be seeing the beginning of just such a scenario indirectly with iOS as the iPad and iPhone appear to be starting to really gain traction in just this space.

Exciting few years ahead to see what Apple's strategy here will be and how it will pan out.


I came back to the Mac after 8 years on Windows XP when Apple came back to the desktop with quad-core iMacs. I didn't want to buy an iMac with a 3 year old Core 2 Duo CPU meant for mobile computers. Thankfully, Apple came back to its senses and decided to build a desktop computer with a desktop CPU. In the mean time, for three years, Apple's competitors had been using the Core 2 Quad to build desktop computers.

Desktop computers are not mobile, but they are powerful, especially with a Core i7 CPU and its 4 logical cores to supplement the 4 physical cores. My mother's HP desktop with its Core i7 CPU does twice the medical research for the World Community Grid http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ on the BOINC http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ platform as my Core i5 iMac.


Mac OS X will make a dent in the 90% Windows world market share only if and when Apple:

1- licences Mac OS X to all major computer builders like Microsoft does for Windows;

2- lowers the profit margin and sales price of its Mac computers to bring back Apple's profit margin from 39% back to the industry average of 15% to 20%;

3- lowers the insane (as in psychotic, delusional) stock option bonuses paid to all Apple executives as you cannot buy love or loyalty, just mismanage a company with premium prices for its computers and an out of control management whose obedience and silence must be bought with unreasonable stock option bonuses.


Still missing from the Mac OS X platform (and required to really compete with Windows):

1- native support for the most popular lossless audio codecs, i.e. APE http://www.monkeysaudio.com, FLAC http://flac.sourceforge.net and WavPack http://www.wavpack.com;

2- A Mac OS X version of the Windows only Tag&Rename http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm to tag digital music;

3- a digital music player for the APE and WavPack lossless audio codecs. The FLAC audio codec is now supported in Fidelia and Songbird digital music players.


Using Macindows http://www.pioneeringsoftware.co.uk/pages/products to run Windows software on the Mac is only a temporary solution at best.


post #32 of 34
At the rate of adoption Apple is seeing from the iOS to the OS X platform you shouldn't be surprised to see Apple at 15%-20% in the next 5 years, let alone 10%.
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

I came back to the Mac after 8 years on Windows XP when Apple came back to the desktop with quad-core iMacs. I didn't want to buy an iMac with a 3 year old Core 2 Duo CPU meant for mobile computers. Thankfully, Apple came back to its senses and decided to build a desktop computer with a desktop CPU. In the mean time, for three years, Apple's competitors had been using the Core 2 Quad to build desktop computers.

Desktop computers are not mobile, but they are powerful, especially with a Core i7 CPU and its 4 logical cores to supplement the 4 physical cores. My mother's HP desktop with its Core i7 CPU does twice the medical research for the World Community Grid http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ on the BOINC http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ platform as my Core i5 iMac.


Mac OS X will make a dent in the 90% Windows world market share only if and when Apple:

1- licences Mac OS X to all major computer builders like Microsoft does for Windows;

2- lowers the profit margin and sales price of its Mac computers to bring back Apple's profit margin from 39% back to the industry average of 15% to 20%;

3- lowers the insane (as in psychotic, delusional) stock option bonuses paid to all Apple executives as you cannot buy love or loyalty, just mismanage a company with premium prices for its computers and an out of control management whose obedience and silence must be bought with unreasonable stock option bonuses.


Still missing from the Mac OS X platform (and required to really compete with Windows):

1- native support for the most popular lossless audio codecs, i.e. APE http://www.monkeysaudio.com, FLAC http://flac.sourceforge.net and WavPack http://www.wavpack.com;

2- A Mac OS X version of the Windows only Tag&Rename http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm to tag digital music;

3- a digital music player for the APE and WavPack lossless audio codecs. The FLAC audio codec is now supported in Fidelia and Songbird digital music players.


Using Macindows http://www.pioneeringsoftware.co.uk/pages/products to run Windows software on the Mac is only a temporary solution at best.



I wouldn't recommend you becoming a tech analyst. Your citings as what Apple needs to support in order to become more widely adopted, not to mention the vaunted Clone angle wouldn't get you a job.
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The seventh beta of Mac OS X 10.6.7, the forthcoming maintenance and security update for the Snow Leopard operating system, was released to developers by Apple this week.

People familiar with the latest build said the latest version of Mac OS X 10.6.7, like previous builds, contains no known issues. The software update is reportedly known as build 10J868.

The software in its delta update form is said to weigh in at 541.5MB. It was released to developers late Monday, and comes about two weeks after the release of the sixth beta of Mac OS X 10.6.7, released in late February.

Developers with access to the latest software have reportedly been asked to focus on the same areas in the new build, including Safari, the Mac App Store, Bonjour, SMB and Graphics Drivers.

Mac OS X 10.6.7 is not expected to include any major additions or features for end users of the Snow Leopard operating system. Apple has instead turned its attention to Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which is set to launch this summer with new iOS-inspired features like application home screens and full-screen applications.

The last update to Snow Leopard came in early January in the form of Mac OS X 10.6.6. That brought with it the Mac App Store, a new digital download destination for Mac software, modeled after the success of the iOS App Store for the iPhone and iPad.

I am familiar with the latest build and I can report that there is at least one problem and that is that OS X will still not drive my external monitor and has not since 10.6.4. Everything worked fine untill I upgraded to 10.6.5. I installed 10.6.6 and 10.6.7 seeds 10j860 and 10j868 and no love. I downgrade back to 10.6.4 and the monitor begins working again. I reported the problem back in January. Since then Apple has instructed me to upload a system capture file ".ipx" and I also received a snoop tool to run with my external monitor attached to capture graphics info in a file which I also uploaded. In case you have forgotten the issue Apple its Problem ID: 8830379...
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