Originally Posted by Capnbob
No-one will take that bet. The standard fandroid retort is that the iSheep will make it sell well and that volume does not make up for quality.
Of course when you reverse it and say well that applies in spades to the vast sales of Android phones, they either shut up or explode in a puff of fanboy logic (or call you an iSheep which makes your point invalid).
I understand your point. In fact, here at Apple Insider, when the Apple diehards (Apple can't do anything wrong or bad) were gloating about the Apple iPhone being the top selller over Android, I pointed out that RIM and Nokia are ahead in terms of total sales worldwide. I predicted also that the Android, as a whole are going to overtake the Apple iPhone. I believe that was in 2009 when I posted that.
The point is that if a company targets a specific group of consumers, rather than try to be the top seller, it won't become the top seller all the time, even if it has the best products.
It's just like Mercedes Benz as a car manufacturer is not likely to have more sales volume than the likes of GM, or Toyota, because the target clientele of Mercedes Benz is a very small segment of the car buying public.
Well, I shall be posting the challenge everytime someone says: This product from anothr company is superior over an Apple product.Product vs. Product
Originally Posted by Asst. Prof.
When you say "iPad2", which one are you talking about? There are 16 different iPad2s.
Is the bet comparing the 64 gig 3G iPad, or all of the various iPads lumped in together?
I think that needs clarification. Otherwise, you'd be comparing sales of the econo-model (16 Gig WIFI-Only) against the Xoom, which doesn't make much sense. It would be like comparing the iP4 against all of the craptastic BOGOphones all lumped in together, which isn't fair.
There's a flaw in your argument, just try to analyze it in more depth. iPad2 is a single product, just different versions with varying degrees of RAM, diskstorage, Wifi only, or WiFi plus 3G. But, the overall quality of the iPad2 are the same for all the versions, and they all share the same ecocystem. The iPad2 as a hardware supported by its integrated ecosystem (iTunes, Aoos Store, Apple Store, Genius Bar, Seminars, One-on-one support, etc.) defines the overall quality and superiority of the iPad2, as a product.
I use the fallacy of betting by sales to determine quality because many mistake (fanboys, haters, tech bloggers, journalists, etc.) gloats as if their favorite OS, or product is better, if it has a higher ranking. [See explanation above.] But, Android fans (Apple haters/detractprs_ are gloating that Android has buried the iPhone. So, history repeats itself, they say. And, Android is the clear winner.
Thus, I placed the bet for the aforementioned reason, not because I believed in numbers as measure of superiority.
To give an example within the iPad2 versions, if the sales of the lower Wifi only iPad2 eclipses the equivalent with Wifi plus 3G, is the wifi only iPad2 superior to the wifi plus 3G? I hope I do not have to answer that because it should be obvious to most anyone that there is no correlation between bulk sales and technical superiority or lack thereof.Apple iPad2 (equivalent version) vs Xoom
Let's assume that by IPad2 lost 10:1 or whatever number you want (2:1, etc.) Does it prove that Xoom is technically superior to the iPad2 of the equivalent specifications.
It would be interesting to get your answer or any of those who believe that if the Xoom beats the "technically equivalent" iPad2, then the Xoom must be judge to be superior.
If you or anyone else answers YES, it indicates how shallow you analyze problems or scenarios.
Or, to put another twist, since you mentioned fairness: What do you consider to be a fair head to head comparison, to decide superiority, as judged by the consumers?