Originally Posted by BR
Your vision of god is not NoahJ's god. Your vision of god is not the christian's god. Noahj is asking for literal intervention from a god he believes to be omnipotent. I take issue with that.
Ok..point taken, I agree. Me too. YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!!!!
My comments have absolutely nothing to do with what you are bringing up here. While I appreciate the higher level of sophistication of your view on the topic here, your comments are completely out of scope and have no bearing on what I took issue with in the first place.
Bit strong - although I agree with you about the prayer thing in this context, I think that if that if one has a religious framework and see it like that it is still a worthy/noble act to pray even if it is irrational.
Noah's god is omnipotent.
Noah literally prays to that god for direct intervention.
Noah's god could have prevented the tragedy from happening the first place.
Noah's god is an evil son of a bitch.
Noah is the battered wife making excuses for god, the abusive husband.
But if He doesn't exist so what?
All over Japan people are praying to their own Gods no?
When uncounted thousands have died in a disaster such as last week's earthquake and tsunami, where will the Japanese people find spiritual strength?
Experts on Japanese culture say they'll find it in the critical, comforting rituals of religion.
They will rely on centuries-old traditions of a distinctive Buddhist culture and the ancient Shinto beliefs of their earliest people. Japan is 90 percent Buddhist or Shinto or a combination of the two, with young urban Japanese more inclined to have drifted from religious attachments.
I think this is fine - ok, these beings may not exist (or they may do) but the point is the psychological support it offers no?
If the Japanese people need this support then that's fine by me. Whatever gets you through. Maybe Noah's praying and beliefs are 'getting him through' something too.
I don't knock it - whatever your therapy is then my benchmark is whether you are sincere in trying to fix yourself and whether it works.
And it doesn't have to be 'true' to work...it doesn't even have to be 'true' to be true.